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    Default Mismatch that is ODH v Manny Pac

    I do not know if this has been done before

    But how the hell in Manny going to ever beat ODH?

    Some respected commentators believe Manny will win, but he is just far too small and Oscar is only hyping the fight because he knows he will walk through Pac man and look good against a great but blown up flyweight.

    WTF!!!!
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    Default Re: Mismatch that is ODH v Manny Pac

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    I do not know if this has been done before

    But how the hell in Manny going to ever beat ODH?

    Some respected commentators believe Manny will win, but he is just far too small and Oscar is only hyping the fight because he knows he will walk through Pac man and look good against a great but blown up flyweight.

    WTF!!!!

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    Yeah... it's been done a "few" times before. But you're still 100% correct in your assertions.

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    Default Re: Mismatch that is ODH v Manny Pac

    Here are the facts

    Manny and Oscar are doing it for the money first and foremost.

    Oscar wants to beat the P4P best and retire and go out with a bang.

    If Manny wins however, it would be a truly great victory. If he loses, he lost to a much bigger modern great, so no shame in losing.

    If Oscar loses he will look a bit stupid.

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    Default Re: Mismatch that is ODH v Manny Pac

    When I first heard about the fight, I felt the same way. Now, the more I think about it, I think Pac is going to win. Oscar is old, on the decline, has stamina issues, and he hasn't had to make 147 in years. The weight alone is going to be a huge factor, and when I considering everything else in Pac's favor (speed, youth, stamina, everything except power) I see Pac beating Oscar.

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    Default Re: Mismatch that is ODH v Manny Pac

    from what i heard on fightnews.com oscar isnt retireing. and manny is gonna win.

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    When the fight was announced/signed, Hoya was at -250 and PAC at +200. Now the odds were something like Hoya at -200 while PAC at +150.

    I think the odds will become closer as the fight comes nearer.

    News like PAC knocking down his 5' 11" middleweight sparring partners will even up the odds or turn to PAC's favor...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    When I first heard about the fight, I felt the same way. Now, the more I think about it, I think Pac is going to win. Oscar is old, on the decline, has stamina issues, and he hasn't had to make 147 in years. The weight alone is going to be a huge factor, and when I considering everything else in Pac's favor (speed, youth, stamina, everything except power) I see Pac beating Oscar.
    This is why it's a meaningless fight, If ODLH wins, it's because he is so much bigger. If PAC wins it's because ODLH is too far past it.

    Translation: POINTLESS

    I understand people getting into the hype saying this is a mega fight, but it's not, it's a mega event that is completely pointless in the scheme of things for boxing. I know Saddoboxer, brings up this fight regardless of thread topic, and he has made it clear he is stoked, but for me, it WILL be on the sports book, but I WON'T be watching.

    I personally hope that ODLH flattens PAC within 3 rounds so everyone can see how pointless this fight is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    When I first heard about the fight, I felt the same way. Now, the more I think about it, I think Pac is going to win. Oscar is old, on the decline, has stamina issues, and he hasn't had to make 147 in years. The weight alone is going to be a huge factor, and when I considering everything else in Pac's favor (speed, youth, stamina, everything except power) I see Pac beating Oscar.
    This is why it's a meaningless fight, If ODLH wins, it's because he is so much bigger. If PAC wins it's because ODLH is too far past it.

    Translation: POINTLESS

    I understand people getting into the hype saying this is a mega fight, but it's not, it's a mega event that is completely pointless in the scheme of things for boxing. I know Saddoboxer, brings up this fight regardless of thread topic, and he has made it clear he is stoked, but for me, it WILL be on the sports book, but I WON'T be watching.

    I personally hope that ODLH flattens PAC within 3 rounds so everyone can see how pointless this fight is.
    Very well put, KS. I especially agree on how the fight's pointless in boxing's scheme of things. However, we hope for different outcomes, and here's how I would reword the last sentence more to my liking:

    I personally hope that Manny flattens Oscar, embarassing him for taking on the much smaller man, and not someone like Margarito or Cotto, in his own weight division.


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    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    When I first heard about the fight, I felt the same way. Now, the more I think about it, I think Pac is going to win. Oscar is old, on the decline, has stamina issues, and he hasn't had to make 147 in years. The weight alone is going to be a huge factor, and when I considering everything else in Pac's favor (speed, youth, stamina, everything except power) I see Pac beating Oscar.
    This is why it's a meaningless fight, If ODLH wins, it's because he is so much bigger. If PAC wins it's because ODLH is too far past it.

    Translation: POINTLESS

    I understand people getting into the hype saying this is a mega fight, but it's not, it's a mega event that is completely pointless in the scheme of things for boxing. I know Saddoboxer, brings up this fight regardless of thread topic, and he has made it clear he is stoked, but for me, it WILL be on the sports book, but I WON'T be watching.

    I personally hope that ODLH flattens PAC within 3 rounds so everyone can see how pointless this fight is.
    I hope that happens so I can revel in the sweet tears of the Pac fans.

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    Default Re: Mismatch that is ODH v Manny Pac

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    When I first heard about the fight, I felt the same way. Now, the more I think about it, I think Pac is going to win. Oscar is old, on the decline, has stamina issues, and he hasn't had to make 147 in years. The weight alone is going to be a huge factor, and when I considering everything else in Pac's favor (speed, youth, stamina, everything except power) I see Pac beating Oscar.
    This is why it's a meaningless fight, If ODLH wins, it's because he is so much bigger. If PAC wins it's because ODLH is too far past it.

    Translation: POINTLESS

    I understand people getting into the hype saying this is a mega fight, but it's not, it's a mega event that is completely pointless in the scheme of things for boxing. I know Saddoboxer, brings up this fight regardless of thread topic, and he has made it clear he is stoked, but for me, it WILL be on the sports book, but I WON'T be watching.

    I personally hope that ODLH flattens PAC within 3 rounds so everyone can see how pointless this fight is.
    I doubt Pac goes 3. Unless Oscar decides to carry him.

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    Default Re: Mismatch that is ODH v Manny Pac

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    When I first heard about the fight, I felt the same way. Now, the more I think about it, I think Pac is going to win. Oscar is old, on the decline, has stamina issues, and he hasn't had to make 147 in years. The weight alone is going to be a huge factor, and when I considering everything else in Pac's favor (speed, youth, stamina, everything except power) I see Pac beating Oscar.
    You could say along the same lines though that Ivan Calderon would have all the advantages over Oscar except power. Are you forgetting size?When is the last time Oscar had to worry about a featherweight hitting him? Of course a goof would say Mayweather but Oscar knew Floyd would never rely on being able to hurt him to win. Manny would absolutely need to be able to at least slow Oscar down with his shots, while taking some clean punches of his own. That's what I think is so unlikely to happen in this fight. Pac just doesn't have the slickness to transend such a size advantage and outbox a far harder hitter, and he's damn sure not going to win a shootout. He needs to at least be on par with his opponents from a physicality standpoint in order to be dominant imo. DLH is just to much bigger and stronger.

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