Who would have won Mosley v Trinidad?

[rjj tszyu]

I'm sure this will have been done before but in the late 90s and early 00s the welterweight division was even better than it is now IMO, and unfortunately 2 of it's shining stars never faced off for one reason or another. Anyway I'd like to know who you lot think would have won had Shane Mosley and Felix Trinidad faced off. I really don't know who I'm going to vote for yet and I am probably going to give myself a day or two to decide!

[brucelee]

I'd chose mOsley. he's too slick for trinidad.

[GAME]

Duno cuz both guys are great . Depends what weight . At welter I favour Shane . At light middle I tip Trinidad

Prime I think Mosley probably had too much speed and movement for Tito to handle .

[ICB]

I'd chose mOsley. he's too slick for trinidad.

Would he though ? i have never considered Shane Mosley a pure boxer or a slick boxer at all. More of a boxer/puncher when have you ever see him really use his boxing skills to out box someone over 12 rounds ?

Against ODLH he was too fast and had too much stamina, but i wouldn't say he really outboxed ODLH. Shane Mosley has always been more of a warrior than people realize.

People get the impression that because he is fast and throws lightning combinations. That he is actually pure boxer when thats not the case, saying that though could he beat Felix Trinidad ?

Im not so sure Shane Mosley doesn't move around the ring as well as ODLH, he isn't a defensive master like Winky Wright or Bernard Hopkins. And Felix Trinidad did deal with fast boxers like Oba Carr, David Reid, Hector Camacho, with no real trouble.

Felix Trinidad was always a slow starter so that would give Shane Mosley, a chance to steal the early rounds and possibly knock down Felix Trinidad. With a fast quick counter shot similar to the Oba Car knockdown, but then the problem would be once Felix Trinidad warms up and starts to land more and more and gets more and more aggressive.

Would Shane Mosley's legendary stamina be able to hold out ? and would he be able to withstand the punishment ? because Shane Mosley isn't the kind of fighter than can stick and move. He does take punches and im really not sure if he could last that long against Felix Trinidad's awesome power at Welterweight.

I think its too close to call it would depend on how many rounds Shane Mosley, wins in the early going. And how long it would take Felix Trinidad to get going. Plus it would be important for Shane Mosley to avoid exchanges which im not sure he would do.

[brucelee]

I'd chose mOsley. he's too slick for trinidad.

Would he though ? i have never considered Shane Mosley a pure boxer or a slick boxer at all. More of a boxer/puncher when have you ever see him really use his boxing skills to out box someone over 12 rounds ?

Against ODLH he was too fast and had too much stamina, but i wouldn't say he really outboxed ODLH. Shane Mosley has always been more of a warrior than people realize.

People get the impression that because he is fast and throws lightning combinations. That he is actually pure boxer when thats not the case, saying that though could he beat Felix Trinidad ?

Im not so sure Shane Mosley doesn't move around the ring as well as ODLH, he isn't a defensive master like Winky Wright or Bernard Hopkins. And Felix Trinidad did deal with fast boxers like Oba Carr, David Reid, Hector Camacho, with no real trouble.

Felix Trinidad was always a slow starter so that would give Shane Mosley, a chance to steal the early rounds and possibly knock down Felix Trinidad. With a fast quick counter shot similar to the Oba Car knockdown, but then the problem would be once Felix Trinidad warms up and starts to land more and more and gets more and more aggressive.

Would Shane Mosley's legendary stamina be able to hold out ? and would he be able to withstand the punishment ? because Shane Mosley isn't the kind of fighter than can stick and move. He does take punches and im really not sure if he could last that long against Felix Trinidad's awesome power at Welterweight.

I think its too close to call it would depend on how many rounds Shane Mosley, wins in the early going. And how long it would take Felix Trinidad to get going. Plus it would be important for Shane Mosley to avoid exchanges which im not sure he would do.

I'd like to disagree with the phrase in bold. Mosley had proven already that he's faster and better than ODLH. Shane can move and counter punchers beautifully. He'd easily win a UD against Trinidad. I doubt if Trinidad can KO a prime Mosley.

[ICB]

I'd chose mOsley. he's too slick for trinidad.

Would he though ? i have never considered Shane Mosley a pure boxer or a slick boxer at all. More of a boxer/puncher when have you ever see him really use his boxing skills to out box someone over 12 rounds ?

Against ODLH he was too fast and had too much stamina, but i wouldn't say he really outboxed ODLH. Shane Mosley has always been more of a warrior than people realize.

People get the impression that because he is fast and throws lightning combinations. That he is actually pure boxer when thats not the case, saying that though could he beat Felix Trinidad ?

Im not so sure Shane Mosley doesn't move around the ring as well as ODLH, he isn't a defensive master like Winky Wright or Bernard Hopkins. And Felix Trinidad did deal with fast boxers like Oba Carr, David Reid, Hector Camacho, with no real trouble.

Felix Trinidad was always a slow starter so that would give Shane Mosley, a chance to steal the early rounds and possibly knock down Felix Trinidad. With a fast quick counter shot similar to the Oba Car knockdown, but then the problem would be once Felix Trinidad warms up and starts to land more and more and gets more and more aggressive.

Would Shane Mosley's legendary stamina be able to hold out ? and would he be able to withstand the punishment ? because Shane Mosley isn't the kind of fighter than can stick and move. He does take punches and im really not sure if he could last that long against Felix Trinidad's awesome power at Welterweight.

I think its too close to call it would depend on how many rounds Shane Mosley, wins in the early going. And how long it would take Felix Trinidad to get going. Plus it would be important for Shane Mosley to avoid exchanges which im not sure he would do.

I'd like to disagree with the phrase in bold. Mosley had proven already that he's faster and better than ODLH. Shane can move and counter punchers beautifully. He'd easily win a UD against Trinidad. I doubt if Trinidad can KO a prime Mosley.

He proved he is faster and arguably better with the 2nd fight being controversial. But move better ? i disagree ODLH moved around the ring brilliantly in the Felix Trinidad fight.

I have never seen Shane Mosley really move around the ring, especially the way ODLH did. Just because Shane Mosley beat ODLH, doesn't mean he would beat Felix Trinidad styles make fights. And Shane Mosley never met anyone like Felix Trinidad.

[brucelee]

Would he though ? i have never considered Shane Mosley a pure boxer or a slick boxer at all. More of a boxer/puncher when have you ever see him really use his boxing skills to out box someone over 12 rounds ?

Against ODLH he was too fast and had too much stamina, but i wouldn't say he really outboxed ODLH. Shane Mosley has always been more of a warrior than people realize.

People get the impression that because he is fast and throws lightning combinations. That he is actually pure boxer when thats not the case, saying that though could he beat Felix Trinidad ?

Im not so sure Shane Mosley doesn't move around the ring as well as ODLH, he isn't a defensive master like Winky Wright or Bernard Hopkins. And Felix Trinidad did deal with fast boxers like Oba Carr, David Reid, Hector Camacho, with no real trouble.

Felix Trinidad was always a slow starter so that would give Shane Mosley, a chance to steal the early rounds and possibly knock down Felix Trinidad. With a fast quick counter shot similar to the Oba Car knockdown, but then the problem would be once Felix Trinidad warms up and starts to land more and more and gets more and more aggressive.

Would Shane Mosley's legendary stamina be able to hold out ? and would he be able to withstand the punishment ? because Shane Mosley isn't the kind of fighter than can stick and move. He does take punches and im really not sure if he could last that long against Felix Trinidad's awesome power at Welterweight.

I think its too close to call it would depend on how many rounds Shane Mosley, wins in the early going. And how long it would take Felix Trinidad to get going. Plus it would be important for Shane Mosley to avoid exchanges which im not sure he would do.

I'd like to disagree with the phrase in bold. Mosley had proven already that he's faster and better than ODLH. Shane can move and counter punchers beautifully. He'd easily win a UD against Trinidad. I doubt if Trinidad can KO a prime Mosley.

He proved he is faster and arguably better with the 2nd fight being controversial. But move better ? i disagree ODLH moved around the ring brilliantly in the Felix Trinidad fight.

I have never seen Shane Mosley really move around the ring, especially the way ODLH did. Just because Shane Mosley beat ODLH, doesn't mean he would beat Felix Trinidad styles make fights. And Shane Mosley never met anyone like Felix Trinidad.

If ODLH can move brilliantly against Trinidad, what makes you so sure that a prime Mosley wouldn't be able to do so?

With that question, I rest my argument.

[Markusdarkus]

Shane was best at 135lbs but still beat prime Oscar better at 147.

Tough call, draw?

[DaxxKahn]

Prime for a Prime I give it to Shane...Too much speed....Shane had a good chin....As long as he avoided a slugfest with Tito he wuld cruise to a UD

[rjj tszyu]

I've finally made my decision and gone for Trinidad. Considering that he has only ever been beaten in the higher weight classes I think that at welterweight he would have had just a little bit too much for Shane.

[Kel]

Shane by close UD. He has more skills and would outpoint Felix, not to the extent Winky did but he would have done enough to win IMO.

It's a shame it never happened

[El Kabong]

Shane Mosley, like Mike Tyson has a certain type of boxer that can ALWAYS beat him: Vernon Forrest, Winky Wright....tall guys, good jabs, good right cross, used distance, decent power (Winky has decent power believe it or not, he just doesn't have KO power, he has enough power to keep a guy off of him though), and those guys whipped Shane pretty bad. Tito only ever got beat by Hopkins who was too big for him, Oscar who outboxed him (he didn't lose but in my eyes Tito didn't win either), and Winky who was just too good on defense.


Tito is a big guy, big power, and he would frustrate Shane and hurt him too.

[The Rookie Fan]

I'm always suprised at how many people insist Mosley would out box Trinidad. Like ICB said, it is a common misconseption to say Mosley is a boxer, he is not, he never has been. He was, is and always will be a brawler. I'de call him a slick brawler (if there is such a thing). He's fast, he throws great combinations, he is a great, great fighter, but that is what he is, a fighter, not a boxer.

About the fight, it would be a great fight. Possibly better than any fight either fighter has been involved in. The boxing world really missed out on this one. I'd say Mosley's speed would certanly cause great trouble for Trinidad and would be winning big early. But I don't think Mosley has the power to stop Trinidad from coming and with all his great punching repetuar, Mosley is missing the great Trinidad neutralyzer, and that is a good, stiff jab. Trinidad would keep coming after Mosley and draw him more and more to deep waters where Mosley would start exchanging. I would not be supprised if Tito hurts Mosley late and possibly even stop him.

Mosley might make it real close coming to the end and that is what would've made this a great fight.

[rjj tszyu]

Shane Mosley, like Mike Tyson has a certain type of boxer that can ALWAYS beat him: Vernon Forrest, Winky Wright....tall guys, good jabs, good right cross, used distance, decent power (Winky has decent power believe it or not, he just doesn't have KO power, he has enough power to keep a guy off of him though), and those guys whipped Shane pretty bad. Tito only ever got beat by Hopkins who was too big for him, Oscar who outboxed him (he didn't lose but in my eyes Tito didn't win either), and Winky who was just too good on defense.


Tito is a big guy, big power, and he would frustrate Shane and hurt him too.

I agree. I think Tito could have hurt any welter in history. His power was insane and probably second to only Hearns.