Freddie Roach..bitter, stupid or genuinely concerned?

[Kev]

It seems common for Freddie that any time he stops training with a fighter to say he's worried about their health and that they are putting themselves at great risk taking their next fight.

When Israel Vazquez ditched him he said that he shouldn't take the Marquez fight rematch (2nd fight) because his nose was fucked, he couldn't breathe and clearly wasn't ready. He said he was worried Vazquez would get seriously hurt.

Vazquez went on to knock Marquez out.

After Bernard went back to Naseem Richardson following the Calzaghe fight he made a big deal of the fact that Hopkins kept going to the wrong corner and looked old and he should retire, and B Hop goes on to give arguably his greatest performance ever.

I know when he split with James Toney he said Toney had a problem with his pituitary gland and should retrie becuase he was punchy....

So what is it? Is it sour grapes? Is it genuine concern? Is he actually saying this to hype the fights, a kind of secret game they all play to make us think the star is washed up?

All I know is that from now on, the next time Freddie says an ex fighter of his is done and washed up I'm putting some money on him to win big in his next fight

[Deanrw]

I think much of it is due to him having Parkinsons Disease, which may be the result of taking one fight too many. It is purely out of concern with him I believe.

[Fenster]

I don't know whether he's genuinely concerned or not, but that Hopkins walking to the wrong corner stuff was interesting. Who would have notcied that if Roach hadn't pointed it out. It did sort of highlight a geriatric that has lost the plot

But I agree. It really just means whenever a top trainer, or anyone involved advises anything - do the opposite.

[DaxxKahn]

I think it is concern, EG- He said Vazquez was not ready not that he should retire and live in a padded room for his health...

Boxing can be a shady dirty business....It is not often you find anyone who cares about the fighters other then "When can I earn another paycheck off him"

Maybe Freddie does not want something on his conscience that could have avoided if he was a bit more outspoken on his feelings of the situation.....

[Kev]

I don't know whether he's genuinely concerned or not, but that Hopkins walking to the wrong corner stuff was interesting. Who would have notcied that if Roach hadn't pointed it out. It did sort of highlight a geriatric that has lost the plot

But I agree. It really just means whenever a top trainer, or anyone involved advises anything - do the opposite.

In all seriousness I think this could make for a great new betting strategy. I notice Manny Steward is almost always wrong as well.

From now before a big fight I'll check out for their opinions and use that as my anti-form guide.

[El Kabong]

I think Freddie just doesn't want people thinking his training is making fighters fight poorly.

[CutMeMick]

Freddies just genuinely concerned.
Freddie cares for people.

Bilbo here's 3 questions for you.

Explain to me why/what does Freddie have to be stupid/bitter?
What would make him stupid?
What does he have to be bitter about?

[boozeboxer]

What the hell? I make an alternate account one day so I could look up some threads without finding my password on my other computer and you all delete my threads


Manfredo/B Class/POB sucks was a good name.....

[CutMeMick]

Freddies just genuinely concerned.
Freddie cares for people.

Bilbo here's 3 questions for you.

Explain to me why/what does Freddie have to be stupid/bitter?
What would make him stupid?
What does he have to be bitter about?

Still waiting Bilbo....