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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
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    Well to be honest Miles im not a religious person but i do think God exists, although i think he left this place along time ago.

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    Here we go again.

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    I think it does exist, but not in the anthropomorphic ways most people believe. I hope there is a God.

    I do waffle on the subject though, at times I think there cannot possibly be a God, and other times I feel quite differently.

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    Well obviously I believe he exists, but the word God means so many different things to different people.

    Do you mean specifically the Judeao Christian God doesn't exist or that you don't believe the universe shows any evidence of being created by a higher power at all?

    I never question whether God exists but I often wonder if he believes in me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Well obviously I believe he exists, but the word God means so many different things to different people.

    Do you mean specifically the Judeao Christian God doesn't exist or that you don't believe the universe shows any evidence of being created by a higher power at all?

    I never question whether God exists but I often wonder if he believes in me?
    The part about the universe Bilbo is very interesting, i've never thought of it that way before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Well obviously I believe he exists, but the word God means so many different things to different people.

    Do you mean specifically the Judeao Christian God doesn't exist or that you don't believe the universe shows any evidence of being created by a higher power at all?

    I never question whether God exists but I often wonder if he believes in me?
    To be honest I threw it out there as a question only. I will answer properly tomorrow. Im not in the best of condition to debate god really.

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    I thought the New Kids On The Block reunion was ample evidence,no loving god would allow that to happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
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    Well to be honest Miles im not a religious person but i do think God exists, although i think he left this place along time ago.
    Im not a religious person at all and would probably describe myself as an atheist above all else. But I do find it interesting to hear different takes on it all.

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    Though I believe God exists, I can prove only that there is a 50-50 possibility of his existence. But that's not bad, right? Here goes my rationale:

    If there is God, he must be an infinitely more powerful and intelligent being, naturally, and so he can let this world run as it is running now without us, his created beings, being aware of his existence. I mean the possibility is there, right? It's just we don't know for sure.

    I think those people who try to loudly proclaim that there is no God are actually complaining to Him like a little child complaining to his absentee father, 'if You exist, why is this world so and so, and why is my life such a mess,' and so deep inside his heart, God exists. A true atheist I think doesn't even think about God much, but just answers plain 'no' if he is asked of His existence and that's just it for him. If there is no God, why was this universal instinct of his existence put into our hearts - almost all cultures prove this fact. It's just that our limited mind cannot totally grasp what He really is and we just try to mold Him into whatever form our little mind can imagine. But the problem is, that is not necessarily, and probably not, true. He's too complex for our understanding. Think about it.

    (I have drawn a whole concept of God - sort of a theory - but it's a very long story so I can't go into that, at least for now.)
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    I believe in GOD and when i say that i mean Jesus Christ. i dont question wether he exists or not i just kno he does.

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    scientific things don't just occur naturally. If anything, things get more random. It's the law of entropy. Thus, the highly ordered nature of DNA and life as we know could not have happened without something bigger controlling it. Molecules can't just combine to become more complex. Impossible.

    Plus, all the ghost sightings by otherwise very normal people suggest that there is some kind of dimension that we cannot comprehend. so if THAT exists, why not a supreme being?

    So yes I do believe in God. But I must admit that sometimes I wonder whether we've gotten ourselves into such a mess that he's up there saying, you're on your own. Fix it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Milash View Post
    scientific things don't just occur naturally. If anything, things get more random. It's the law of entropy. Thus, the highly ordered nature of DNA and life as we know could not have happened without something bigger controlling it. Molecules can't just combine to become more complex. Impossible.

    Plus, all the ghost sightings by otherwise very normal people suggest that there is some kind of dimension that we cannot comprehend. so if THAT exists, why not a supreme being?

    So yes I do believe in God. But I must admit that sometimes I wonder whether we've gotten ourselves into such a mess that he's up there saying, you're on your own. Fix it.
    The amendment to the law of entropy disproves your rational...

    " The law of entropy, or the second law of thermodynamics, along with the first law of thermodynamics comprise the most fundamental laws of physics. Entropy (the subject of the second law) and energy (the subject of the first law) and their relationship are fundamental to an understanding not just of physics, but to life (biology, evolutionary theory, ecology), cognition (psychology). According to the old view, the second law was viewed as a 'law of disorder'. The major revolution in the last decade is the recognition of the "law of maximum entropy production" or "MEP" and with it an expanded view of thermodynamics showing that the spontaneous production of order from disorder is the expected consequence of basic laws. This site provides basic texts, articles, links, and references that take the reader from the classical views of thermodynamics in simple terms, to today's new and richer understanding"


    Personally I don't believe in religion at all, it has bought us nothing but war and to be honest a lot of time of peoples lives wasted in churches in my view. Not to mention the amount of money which some of these organisations have (the catholic church). I do believe there are things out there which we can not explain however, which may mean there is a god, but it sure in hell isn't with the current religions we have. Many of the so called saviours/prophets/gods have followed the sun's life and are hence pagan without many people realising it, most famous of all is Jesus.
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    For those who believe in God, most of the big questions are answered. But for those of us who can't readily accept the God formula, the big answers don't remain stone-written. We adjust to new conditions and discoveries. We are pliable. Love need not be a command or faith a dictum. I am my own God. We are here to unlearn the teachings of the church, state, and our educational system. We are here to drink beer. We are here to kill war. We are here to laugh at the odds and live our lives so well that Death will tremble to take us.
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