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    Default Vitali and Wlad

    I find it kind of strange that , many people on here don't like these two guys.
    Lets start with Vitali .
    1. Good power punchers.
    2. Gets hit but has a TEAK chin.
    3. Cuts.
    4. Lost twice on injury , and is generally exciting.

    Wlad.
    1. Excellent speed and power.
    2. Vulnerable chin.
    3. Been in some up and downers.
    4. Always in top shape.

    These two are not your usual fat boring HW'S . They are both intelligent , decent blokes to. So its a mystery to me why some of you guys don't like them.
    I for one think both are exciting and good to watch.
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    Default Re: Vitali and Wlad

    I've got to spread out some reps before giving you any more.


    I like both Wlad and Vitali, they always give a good account of themselves in the ring, they are not your average dumb brute prize fighters, and there is more to them than just boxing. They are good representatives of the sport.

    I find it funny how people can love how Mayweather could carve someone up but don't like how the Klitschko's control the action using their size and skill to their advantage.

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    Default Re: Vitali and Wlad

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    I've got to spread out some reps before giving you any more.


    I like both Wlad and Vitali, they always give a good account of themselves in the ring, they are not your average dumb brute prize fighters, and there is more to them than just boxing. They are good representatives of the sport.

    I find it funny how people can love how Mayweather could carve someone up but don't like how the Klitschko's control the action using their size and skill to their advantage.
    good point.. same goes for the haters of mayweathers style.. if you can respect the Klitschko's use of their strengths, then you should be able to do the same for mayweather.. and vice/versa..

    I think this is what separates boxing from MMA.. If we always had sluggers like Haye and the like in a boxing ring, then the turnover rate for champions would be really high.. In boxing, strategy and style are much more important.. There are many less one punch knockouts in boxing, but the big punchers can still do it.. If i caught someone flush with a right hand, with an MMA glove even 40-50 lbs heavier than me, i have a good chance of knocking them down, allowing me to jump on them and make the ref call the fight.. In boxing, there is no chance..

    this is why i respect Wlad's/Vitali's style, and i see no reason, that if you're a boxing fan, how you can really hate on it even though it's boring at times..

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    I hate Mayweather's personality as much as I can but as a fighter he's extremely gifted and you just can't help but be amazed at some of the stuff he can do.

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    Exactly, everyone complains about fat and out of shape has been heavys. Yet they hate on the two best! They are always fit, they have ko power, good boxing ability... but everyone hates them coz theyre tall and the chances of them losing isnt very good. So my question to klitschko haters is... do you hate them because theyre too good for the shit competition around or do you hate them because you think they are shit. You hate them because they arent lennox lewis. You hate them because they arent Ali, Holmes, Tyson, Holyfield etc . Every division has a down period. You can not have legends in every era. SO you can not blame Klitsckos for the fact they have to fight shit competition coz theres nothing else available. You guys long to see the next tyson or lewis come in and destroy these guys, because you feel that you are entitled to see a new great fighter emerge. So my analysis is that you hate on them because you want to see the next great heavyweight and they continue to disappoint you by beating everyone put in front of them.
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    You enjoy Wlad fights?

    He is too safety first. He could have had Rahman out in two rounds if he had more arsehole.

    Vitali is a different matter.
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    Default Re: Vitali and Wlad

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    You enjoy Wlad fights?

    He is too safety first. He could have had Rahman out in two rounds if he had more arsehole.

    Vitali is a different matter.
    Yes i do enjoy Wlad fights , because although he trys to protect his chin , the end is only 1 punch away , because of his power and weak chin, so yes the answer is i do enjoy Wlad fights.

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    Default Re: Vitali and Wlad

    well wald has better skills that Vitali but is kinda chinny but has good power that will put you on your ass.

    Vitali has some skills just more power than skills IMO. but also has a good jab which will fuk Haye up since haye isnt exactly a defensive fighter.

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    Default Re: Vitali and Wlad

    This writer Colin Seymore, from the San Fran Examiner, covers much of the the Klitschko Bros. A on Q link below:

    SF Boxing Examiner: Pacquiao, Klitschko brothers deserve greater admiration from Americans

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    Default Re: Vitali and Wlad

    I always thought Wlad was a good fighter since he got on board with Steward. Exciting, NO, dominant, YES! Wlad has a very weak chin and it does show in his fighting style. But if you had a weak chin, you would fight the same way.

    One thing that bothered me about Wlad this weekend was he only has 3 punches. Jab, straight right, and left hook. He really throws no other punches, even when he has his man laying on the ropes in trouble. It's a lot easier to finish someone when the punches are coming from everywhere!!

    Vitali is just a different fighter. As long as he can stay healthy, he should be the recognized heavyweight champ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    You enjoy Wlad fights?

    He is too safety first. He could have had Rahman out in two rounds if he had more arsehole.

    Vitali is a different matter.
    Yes i do enjoy Wlad fights , because although he trys to protect his chin , the end is only 1 punch away , because of his power and weak chin, so yes the answer is i do enjoy Wlad fights.
    I guess, to be fair to Wlad, he's fighting pretty negative fighters like himself, so it's only natural the fights will be shit.

    He needs a few Corrie Sanders-types to bring out the devil in .. oh.. hang on
    Last edited by Fenster; 12-17-2008 at 10:37 AM.
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    I think the Klitschko's get hated on because the fans of the heavyweight division are in a hangover stage. Lennox Lewis, Evander Holyfield, Mike Tyson, etc are retired or aren't anywhere near what they used to be and people want to live in the past instead of respecting what we have right now.

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    People mainly don't like Wlad because he fights in an unexciting manner which makes for boring fights.

    Heavyweights are about knock outs. It's the reason there's LESS interest in the smaller weight-classes. KO's equal excitement. That's why the non-hardcore fan watches. Whether or not they're unappreciative of the skill on offer is basically irrelevant. The MAJORITY of people watch boxing to be entertained.

    A guy with seemingly HUGE athletic size advantages over his opponents, pitter pattering around, playing safe does not equal entertainment. So people don't watch. Simple as.
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    Default Re: Vitali and Wlad

    Both of the Klitschkos are class acts in and out of the ring and they typically produce serious KOs. I think either one would give any of the past heavyweights a good run for their money. People say Wlad is chinny but I disagree, to me he only was only legitimately KO'd one time and that was by Sanders and it was an off night, he got caught and panic'ed. If they replayed that fight now the Sanders that KO'ed W. (not the Sanders of today) would be doomed.

    For God's sake they are 100 times better than Maskaev, Tony, Ruiz, Byrd.

    I agree they dont go in swinging for the fences like Tyson, but they are not the heavy weight version of Winky Wright either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter View Post
    Both of the Klitschkos are class acts in and out of the ring and they typically produce serious KOs.
    Agreed, I finally saw the video of Haye catching Wlad at the airport and for all Haye's trash talk, Wlad was the one who looked better in that video. He didn't lose his cool and just had an intelligent answer for Haye at every step..I thought he came off wittier than Haye as well

    'ahh Mr Haye!'
    'How much do you weigh this morning?'
    'Is that heavy enough for you?'
    'Listen, in the heavyweight division you are nothing'
    'There is a big queue of people who are waiting for a shot..get to the back, get in the ring and just do your job'

    Haye just seemed to be talking for talkings sake. Good stuff from Wlad, very classy.

    Been watching more Wlad and Vitali fights recently. Wlad obviously fights more conservatively but Vitali is an animal! Both have their strengths..I do feel, perhaps, that Lewis would have eaten Wlad up though. As would some of the other great heavyweights..the ones with superior skill anyway e.g Ali, Holmes (I think these 2 beat Vitali also, although the sheer size would pose a problem). So I do have a slight problem putting their names up there with these guys but they will be remembered as the dominant heavyweights of this era.
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