Is Evander Holyfield really a drug cheat?

[rjj tszyu]

For the last year or so I've been hearing that Evander Holyfield the only four time Heavyweight champion of the world and former undisputed Cruiserweight champion of the world was rumoured to have been using Human growth hormone, a steroid that is virtually untraceable.
Holyfield though denies the claims (obviously), and to be honest I really hope that the claims Evan Fields (Holyfields supposed alias) is all just fabricated nonsense.
Holyfield is my favourite ever heayweight so more out of hope than anything I'm going to vote that NO he is not a drug cheat. What do you guys think?

[blegit]

Well besides his tricky alias, Evan Fields, when the files were confiscated with that name on it it also had his address. So there is some very bad evidence against Holyfield. Whats gets me is that when a baseball player is accused they point out his build and how he beefed up. I don't agree with this because working out and using supplements will put on nice gains. But if you did the same with Holyfield he would easily be convicted by public opinion. You would be hard pressed to find a boxer with a muscular and defining build like Holyfield. There may not be even one. And as far as steroids. I know a lot of amateur athletes on the juice and I would only imagine that it gets heavy when salaries are at stake. I believe a lot of sports have a performance enhancing drug problem. Whether it be known or not.

[rjj tszyu]

Well besides his tricky alias, Evan Fields, when the files were confiscated with that name on it it also had his address. So there is some very bad evidence against Holyfield. Whats gets me is that when a baseball player is accused they point out his build and how he beefed up. I don't agree with this because working out and using supplements will put on nice gains. But if you did the same with Holyfield he would easily be convicted by public opinion. You would be hard pressed to find a boxer with a muscular and defining build like Holyfield. There may not be even one. And as far as steroids. I know a lot of amateur athletes on the juice and I would only imagine that it gets heavy when salaries are at stake. I believe a lot of sports have a performance enhancing drug problem. Whether it be known or not.

Holyfield had a tremendous physique when he was down at Cruiser so I don't think it made much difference to that. Plus if you look at James Toneys figure who has been proven to be on steroids twice it doesn't always work like that. Also there have been a few boxers with a good body. There is David Haye nowadays there was Frank Bruno in his day, Kenny Norton had quite a similar Body to Holyfield so I wouldn't say it neccesarily points towards steroid use.

[Wayne]

Holyfield had a tremendous physique when he was down at Cruiser so I don't think it made much difference to that. Plus if you look at James Toneys figure who has been proven to be on steroids twice it doesn't always work like that. Also there have been a few boxers with a good body. There is David Haye nowadays there was Frank Bruno in his day, Kenny Norton had quite a similar Body to Holyfield so I wouldn't say it neccesarily points towards steroid use.

The thing about steroids is you actually have to work out for them to produce results, so Toney is a poor example in Holyfield's favor. Remember Holyfield's heart problem that led to his suspension from boxing and his 'miraculous' healing? Steroids can cause heart problems and it could have been a matter of Holyfield not cycling properly. Also his recuperative abilities after he'd been badly hurt. Nobody is going to say Holyfield had an iron chin, but his ability to bounce back was bordering on supernatural. And look at his body since Balco broke. Looks starkly different, right? Sure, it COULD be because he's just getting older, but it could also be because his supply has been cut off.

Combine all that with the feds calling Evan Field's number and Holyfield himself picking up the phone. Now his excuse was he was getting his father's Rx's from there. He skipped every Rite-Aid, CVS, Walgreens and any other pharmacy for one that was 2 states away? How much sense does that make and why do you need an alias to pick up someone else's prescriptions? I just show up and give my wife's name when I pick up something for her.

[ICB]

Holyfield had a tremendous physique when he was down at Cruiser so I don't think it made much difference to that. Plus if you look at James Toneys figure who has been proven to be on steroids twice it doesn't always work like that. Also there have been a few boxers with a good body. There is David Haye nowadays there was Frank Bruno in his day, Kenny Norton had quite a similar Body to Holyfield so I wouldn't say it neccesarily points towards steroid use.

The thing about steroids is you actually have to work out for them to produce results, so Toney is a poor example in Holyfield's favor. Remember Holyfield's heart problem that led to his suspension from boxing and his 'miraculous' healing? Steroids can cause heart problems and it could have been a matter of Holyfield not cycling properly. Also his recuperative abilities after he'd been badly hurt. Nobody is going to say Holyfield had an iron chin, but his ability to bounce back was bordering on supernatural. And look at his body since Balco broke. Looks starkly different, right? Sure, it COULD be because he's just getting older, but it could also be because his supply has been cut off.

Combine all that with the feds calling Evan Field's number and Holyfield himself picking up the phone. Now his excuse was he was getting his father's Rx's from there. He skipped every Rite-Aid, CVS, Walgreens and any other pharmacy for one that was 2 states away? How much sense does that make and why do you need an alias to pick up someone else's prescriptions? I just show up and give my wife's name when I pick up something for her.

Great point about the heart controversy never thought of it that way, that actually does make perfect sense when you think about it.

[The Fightfan]

I just don't know. From what I've read and seen from old footage Evander used to walk around at 200 lbs and would lose around 10 lbs to make the cruiserweight division. In his first fight heavyweight against Tillis I believe in like 4 months he weighed 206 for that fight. I mean it isn't too much bulking up there. When he lost to Riddick and retired for a year he went from 208 to 217 and said he was working with Lee Haney six time Mr Olympian who has been found guilty of steroids. Whatever the case may be he has been getting away with it when alot of other's have been getting caught. So right now I would say no .

[Althugz]

Well besides his tricky alias, Evan Fields, when the files were confiscated with that name on it it also had his address. So there is some very bad evidence against Holyfield. Whats gets me is that when a baseball player is accused they point out his build and how he beefed up. I don't agree with this because working out and using supplements will put on nice gains. But if you did the same with Holyfield he would easily be convicted by public opinion. You would be hard pressed to find a boxer with a muscular and defining build like Holyfield. There may not be even one. And as far as steroids. I know a lot of amateur athletes on the juice and I would only imagine that it gets heavy when salaries are at stake. I believe a lot of sports have a performance enhancing drug problem. Whether it be known or not.

Good post

[piye]

He's definitely a drug cheat! and it destroys his legacy for me, how would he have performed in thos heavyweight fights minus the steroids? I know that steroids don't give you skill. And Holyfield was very skilled but I doubt he would have been strong enough to compete.

[Lance Uppercut]

For the last year or so I've been hearing that Evander Holyfield the only four time Heavyweight champion of the world and former undisputed Cruiserweight champion of the world was rumoured to have been using Human growth hormone, a steroid that is virtually untraceable.
Holyfield though denies the claims (obviously), and to be honest I really hope that the claims Evan Fields (Holyfields supposed alias) is all just fabricated nonsense.
Holyfield is my favourite ever heayweight so more out of hope than anything I'm going to vote that NO he is not a drug cheat. What do you guys think?

I think it is disrespectful to Muhammad Ali (a legitimate 3 time heavyweight champion),to refer to Holyfield as a 4 time heavyweight champion. Sure Holyfield was a 4 time alphabet titlest, but he was only really a 2 time Heavyweight Champion.

[Boom Boom]

Holyfield has been tested many times as most fighters on the championship level are. Hes never tested positive. Anyone can be accused of steroid use, but until its proven he should be given the benefit of the doubt. Hes always had a good physique, even at 46 and his weight has been consistant. He just trains hard and has good genetics. Being a faster heavyweight who was quick with his hands and feet and never been a monstrous puncher, steroid use would hurt his performance if anything. Also, steroids is known to do a lot of damage to your body. Every steroid user ive seen has not physically looked good in their 40s and their performance drastically changes when they stop using. Holyfield just doesnt fit the part imo.

[OumaFan]

Its definitely possible, there's probably more guys doing it than we think, it wouldn't shock me if Holyfield, did, always had suspicions about Roy's rise to heavy honestly, but there's no clear evidence about that. Obviously Toney. He's stupid enough to actually fail a drug test, dumb ass If you look at some articles recently it seems pretty much lock tight that Mosley did. Its not a question of whether he did or not, he just says that he didn't know what Balco was giving him but honestly there's not much there at all to support that claim.

[ross]

steroids is known to do a lot of damage to your body.

Like shrunken bollocks and a bad ticker??

SI.com - More Sports - SI: Holyfield allegedly received steroids, HGH via alias - Thursday March 1, 2007 3:48PM

[Von Milash]

if my memory serves, he ballooned up in record time. He is like Barry Bonds: skinny to start, massive to end. Hard work alone doesn't do that.

[luvfightgame]

Yeah, he did bulk up real fast from cruiser to heavy. I am quite sure it's rampant. Some just get caught. All the top level guys are doing it in my opinion.