Did Mayweather Approach Manny?

[Boom Boom]

Everything seemed to be going well and then suddenly Pac wants more money, then backs out. There are only two reasons that make sense to me. One, Manny just doesnt want to fight him, which I dont think is the case. And two, Mayweather approached him and he figures he will make more fighting Mayweather in the US, even if Floyd makes more than him. He figures Floyd is a bigger draw in the US than Hatton ant that fight will generate more money. I think Pac-Mayweather will be announced shortly.

[DaxxKahn]

No people are confusing things and they are making assumptions...calling Manny greedy etc...

Fact is Manny and his people know what they guys at 147, etc get paid....He also knows that Hatton is a GBP fighter now....He knows what GBP can pay out and what they do pay out to opp......People forget that Pacquiao even though he has fought in smaller divisions with big names...The guys in those divisions regardless of how big the name recieve much smaller pay days then these other guys.....He has jumped up the divisions that these guys have been at for years...he is the smaller man...He is the P4P #1 fighter in the world...He figures why be paid like an opponent and why accept 126lb fighter money from guys at palces like Top Rank, Goosen, whe he should be getting paid.....WW/lww money from the promoter who pays the best in GBP......

Pacquiao is just refusing to be the opponent when it comes to the pay scale....He has the name recognition just as much as any of the other guys.....He wants either equal or more money because he has made the biggest jump....He has equal resume in quality if not better.....

Ask yourself this....

Would you jump up divisions to fight bigger guys for less money while they get paid more?

[Boom Boom]

50-50 isnt less money. Its is not hat an "opponent" would make. The 52-48 he was offered was in his favor. Yes, Manny is p4p #1 but Ricky is Lt. Welterweight Champion. If you think Manny should get paid more, why should Ricky make what an "opponent" does. 50-50 is a justified offer by almost all unbiass accounts. Even Mannys promoter agrees.

[JT Rock]

Yea Daxx, 50-50 isint a slap in the face or chump change by any means.. According to the report Hatton conceded about 2%

In my estimation that is pretty big money, thats like reaching in your pocket and handing me a few hundred thousand dollars..

Manny is being a prick and not even talking to anyone, if thats not diva behavior I dont know what is. He skipped 140 to take a career payday against Delahoya at 147. IMO fighting Hatton for 52% for the Ring Championship at 140 legitimizes Pac's jump in weight and shows it wasnt a freak show at 147 and he is a player at heavier weights.

[DaxxKahn]

50-50 isnt less money. Its is not hat an "opponent" would make. The 52-48 he was offered was in his favor. Yes, Manny is p4p #1 but Ricky is Lt. Welterweight Champion. If you think Manny should get paid more, why should Ricky make what an "opponent" does. 50-50 is a justified offer by almost all unbiass accounts. Even Mannys promoter agrees.

Sure 50/50 is agreed but if not for all the fuss and demanding he got more the would have tried to give Pacquiao the short end....

It is just all part of bargining....You want 50/50 you ask for 60/40 this way you have something to barter with...some give to appear that you were willing to come to terms....It is a business side...

Hopkins hurt himself a lot early in his career because he did not know how to use such tactics...He wanted X amount of dollars and would not budge so he lost big paydays and some people just refused to even deal with him

[JT Rock]

Not to mention the bar is set high for him now, if he dosent stay at 147 who is a bigger payday going back down in weight hell who at 147 is going to make him that much money except Mayweather...

Im beginning to think there might be something to a Mayweather / Pac deal starting to warm up.. The only thing that throws off the scent is Grandpa BOB not knowing about it

[Boom Boom]

50-50 isnt less money. Its is not hat an "opponent" would make. The 52-48 he was offered was in his favor. Yes, Manny is p4p #1 but Ricky is Lt. Welterweight Champion. If you think Manny should get paid more, why should Ricky make what an "opponent" does. 50-50 is a justified offer by almost all unbiass accounts. Even Mannys promoter agrees.

Sure 50/50 is agreed but if not for all the fuss and demanding he got more the would have tried to give Pacquiao the short end....

It is just all part of bargining....You want 50/50 you ask for 60/40 this way you have something to barter with...some give to appear that you were willing to come to terms....It is a business side...

Hopkins hurt himself a lot early in his career because he did not know how to use such tactics...He wanted X amount of dollars and would not budge so he lost big paydays and some people just refused to even deal with him

Yeah, but the final offer was 52-48 for Pac and he didnt take it. Imagine your Hatton the Light Welterweight champion with hundreds of thousands of fans worldwide, would you take anything less? And Manny not making big money at the lower weights is not Hattons concern or his problem.

[blegit]

50-50 isnt less money. Its is not hat an "opponent" would make. The 52-48 he was offered was in his favor. Yes, Manny is p4p #1 but Ricky is Lt. Welterweight Champion. If you think Manny should get paid more, why should Ricky make what an "opponent" does. 50-50 is a justified offer by almost all unbiass accounts. Even Mannys promoter agrees.

Sure 50/50 is agreed but if not for all the fuss and demanding he got more the would have tried to give Pacquiao the short end....

It is just all part of bargining....You want 50/50 you ask for 60/40 this way you have something to barter with...some give to appear that you were willing to come to terms....It is a business side...

Hopkins hurt himself a lot early in his career because he did not know how to use such tactics...He wanted X amount of dollars and would not budge so he lost big paydays and some people just refused to even deal with him

Yeah, but the final offer was 52-48 for Pac and he didnt take it. Imagine your Hatton the Light Welterweight champion with hundreds of thousands of fans worldwide, would you take anything less? And Manny not making big money at the lower weights is not Hattons concern or his problem.

If a Mayweather bout is not in the works then Manny has no excuse. Remember, all of Manny's people are even thinking Manny should take this. They have no idea why he let it crumble and he didn't even return calls when the deadline hour was approaching.

[DaxxKahn]

50-50 isnt less money. Its is not hat an "opponent" would make. The 52-48 he was offered was in his favor. Yes, Manny is p4p #1 but Ricky is Lt. Welterweight Champion. If you think Manny should get paid more, why should Ricky make what an "opponent" does. 50-50 is a justified offer by almost all unbiass accounts. Even Mannys promoter agrees.

Sure 50/50 is agreed but if not for all the fuss and demanding he got more the would have tried to give Pacquiao the short end....

It is just all part of bargining....You want 50/50 you ask for 60/40 this way you have something to barter with...some give to appear that you were willing to come to terms....It is a business side...

Hopkins hurt himself a lot early in his career because he did not know how to use such tactics...He wanted X amount of dollars and would not budge so he lost big paydays and some people just refused to even deal with him

Yeah, but the final offer was 52-48 for Pac and he didnt take it. Imagine your Hatton the Light Welterweight champion with hundreds of thousands of fans worldwide, would you take anything less? And Manny not making big money at the lower weights is not Hattons concern or his problem.

No never said it was Hattons problem...each fighter wants the most they can get....

And again the not taking the 52-48 and ending on a 50/50 makes Pacquiao seem like he and his people are agreeable to work with....The 50/50 is almost guarenteed thats what they wanted from day 1....

In the futture more promoters etc will be willing to haggle becaus ehe seems to be a guy who will bargin

That is why I mentioned Hopkins..he just would insist on one price and that is it...cost him millions

[DatsiK]

I would give my left and right nut to see this fight. However much I'd like to see Hatton beat manny down into the ground, I'd love to see Floyd pick him apart little by little.. realisticly pac man has more of a chance of a win against Hatton, and he has a better claim for the bigger pot of the purse.. so it wouldn't make sense to fight floyd as it would be a harder match and less of a money maker (possibly..), and even if it weren't, Floyd would demand the bigger share.

We'll see..

[The Fightfan]

I would give my left and right nut to see this fight. However much I'd like to see Hatton beat manny down into the ground, I'd love to see Floyd pick him apart little by little.. realisticly pac man has more of a chance of a win against Hatton, and he has a better claim for the bigger pot of the purse.. so it wouldn't make sense to fight floyd as it would be a harder match and less of a money maker (possibly..), and even if it weren't, Floyd would demand the bigger share.

We'll see..

I don't know Manny has better chance to beat Hatton then Mayweather. Mayweather has been out for over a year now. Without a doubt there will be ring rust for a guy who simply uses the entire ring to his benefit. Were as Hatton just comes face forward and tries to take your head off.