Zelenoff=Still Sucks

[Trainer Monkey]

I allmost feel bad for him,he's obviously been training alot,and gym fees,arent free. But he's still terrible
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2Pfc...e=channel_page

[Trainer Monkey]

Id like to thank Charlie for posting these,this is obviously that heavyweight he's been talking about. That guy could kill him in a nanosecond but wont punch because he's been told not to by the trainers
I even feel worse for him
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNKAs...eature=channel

[Youngblood]

Not sure why you say it is obvious he's been training a lot. He had similar vids out right b4 his 1 hit then spit and quit performance. And his hand speed didn't look all that bad in them, until he stepped through the ropes. Then he just looked like a doofus.

As for the heavyweight thingy. That vid actually IS from that time. Ya know, when anyone gave a shit. It's old as hell.

[Trainer Monkey]

Not sure why you say it is obvious he's been training a lot. He had similar vids out right b4 his 1 hit then spit and quit performance. And his hand speed didn't look all that bad in them, until he stepped through the ropes. Then he just looked like a doofus.

As for the heavyweight thingy. That vid actually IS from that time. Ya know, when anyone gave a shit. It's old as hell.

Im waiting to get my kid up for the bus stop,and am more or less humoring myself on non porn sites.
Ive got an in on what Charlie is really thinking,and he's been talking 7 kinds of hell again.
He does look better,but that wouldnt be hard to pull off,but he still sucks.
I allmost have to give him credit though,he's a bit of a celebrity now,which is kind of hard for an 0-1 boxer to pull off.
I mean c'mon give the idiot credit,I cant get two former champions booked for a title eliminator,and he makes a bunch of videos on You Tube and gets himself booked again.Its amazing to watch really.
Call it my version of reality TV

[Youngblood]

lol well I won't deny you it was interesting. In a comical way. And the first fight lived up to its hype with the performance. It was hahalarious. I still think it was a bit of a mockery on pro boxing, Charlie, more than Andrew, but not so bad in that it was entertaining.

But I think this sort of a thing can only hold the interest so long, and from the Charlie POV, that ship has largely sailed. We know who and what he is and it's getting old.

I honestly don't have anything against Andrew. Not everyone in boxing is going to have a 10-0, or a 15-0 record...and those people who do must have fought someone. So it is a bit of a look into the other side of the spectrum.

I don't really like the concept of guys getting licenced as pro with no experience or previous fighting experience, as you know...so that is basically it for me.

[Trainer Monkey]

lol well I won't deny you it was interesting. In a comical way. And the first fight lived up to its hype with the performance. It was hahalarious. I still think it was a bit of a mockery on pro boxing, Charlie, more than Andrew, but not so bad in that it was entertaining.

But I think this sort of a thing can only hold the interest so long, and from the Charlie POV, that ship has largely sailed. We know who and what he is and it's getting old.

I honestly don't have anything against Andrew. Not everyone in boxing is going to have a 10-0, or a 15-0 record...and those people who do must have fought someone. So it is a bit of a look into the other side of the spectrum.

I don't really like the concept of guys getting licenced as pro with no experience or previous fighting experience, as you know...so that is basically it for me.

Whats really going to make you sad,is, Im betting Charlie really does win his next fight.
I know about the guy he's fighting,it might be the only guy in the weight class he could beat.
I feel the same way about sanctioning,at least some amateur or semi-pro should be required,even a losing record at it,but the sport just doesnt work that way.
If Andrew sticks to the program,he's going to be fine this weekend,he looks better then he ever has. I refuse to count my chickens before their hatched. But he really has improved alot. Mind, he has miles to go after this fight. But he's at least put his feet properly on the path.
Charlie looks improved,lord knows he should,its costing his family enough. But if he was fighting anyone decent,he'd get his head handed to him.Pimp can barely remain upright most days