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    Take a look at Boxrec. You will see Jones Eeeeking our 25th in the P4P rankings! It has been a long time since he has been in there. How do you come off a devastating loss and still be P4P?

    I am not sure what the heck they are thinking there. I have noticed that when a fighter takes a big fight, once in a while, they jump them up the rankings. Is this something they do for fight hype? Omar Shieka is no slouch really, but no one that propels you to such great heights.

    On top of that, I think everyone saw Calzaghe let Jones get to the decision. He could have TKOed him with a flurry like Manfredo.
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    Boxrec is a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonnyFolds View Post
    Take a look at Boxrec. You will see Jones Eeeeking our 25th in the P4P rankings! It has been a long time since he has been in there. How do you come off a devastating loss and still be P4P?

    I am not sure what the heck they are thinking there. I have noticed that when a fighter takes a big fight, once in a while, they jump them up the rankings. Is this something they do for fight hype? Omar Shieka is no slouch really, but no one that propels you to such great heights.

    On top of that, I think everyone saw Calzaghe let Jones get to the decision. He could have TKOed him with a flurry like Manfredo.
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    Anyone think Jones can win this fight? What does he have to prove at this point?
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    Maybe somebody moved down and buoyed Roy up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonnyFolds View Post
    Anyone think Jones can win this fight? What does he have to prove at this point?
    I think he'll beat Omar, but who hasn't.
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    Boxrec should just keep tabs on the records and not worry about rankings I do not understand their methods either. If there was 1 career that could have gone another path then it would have been Roy Jones, there would have been no way I would have let my fighter drop back down to lightheavy after fighting at heavyweight. It goes to show you that ego can be the worst enemy of a fighter because Tarver not only talked him down but did it by talking about his mother and let alone fight a rematch to a close fight. He should have stayed at heavy or won another title at cruiserweight and have people come upto him instead. What a shame the tailend of his career has turned into because he was 1 of the most gifted fighters of this generation. Omar Sheika is next? What a joke.
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    Totally agreed. If he wasn't weakened by the weight fluctuations I believe he could still be a force. Look at his contemporary Bernard Hopkins. Still going strong. He probably would be the same if it weren't for those career mistakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonnyFolds View Post
    On top of that, I think everyone saw Calzaghe let Jones get to the decision. He could have TKOed him with a flurry like Manfredo.

    Yeah right, Calzaghe could hardly land anything cleanly, even after Roy couldn't only see out of one eye, still 90% of Calzaghe's punches were hitting Roy more on the gloves than on the head. After the first six rounds Roy was even with Calzaghe on the scorecards, or should have been, except round 3, the rest of them could have gone either way, Calzaghe was given way more credit by compubox than he deserved, and up until Roy's cut he was landing a lot of flush punches whenever he threw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
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    On top of that, I think everyone saw Calzaghe let Jones get to the decision. He could have TKOed him with a flurry like Manfredo.

    Yeah right, Calzaghe could hardly land anything cleanly, even after Roy couldn't only see out of one eye, still 90% of Calzaghe's punches were hitting Roy more on the gloves than on the head. After the first six rounds Roy was even with Calzaghe on the scorecards, or should have been, except round 3, the rest of them could have gone either way, Calzaghe was given way more credit by compubox than he deserved, and up until Roy's cut he was landing a lot of flush punches whenever he threw.
    I guess everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I didn't really see the fight as even from 4th round on. I think the only thing Jones carried through that fight was that menacing smile he's always had. Not sure how he kept that smile through all those punches...

    Calz best punches in that fight were right hooks to the body. It completely neutralized a Jones late rally.

    Compubox or no. There is hardly a way to give Jones the nod for his "effort"
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    Boxrec also has Manny at #3 behind Vasquez and Hopkins. I like Hopkins at #1 though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonnyFolds View Post
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    On top of that, I think everyone saw Calzaghe let Jones get to the decision. He could have TKOed him with a flurry like Manfredo.

    Yeah right, Calzaghe could hardly land anything cleanly, even after Roy couldn't only see out of one eye, still 90% of Calzaghe's punches were hitting Roy more on the gloves than on the head. After the first six rounds Roy was even with Calzaghe on the scorecards, or should have been, except round 3, the rest of them could have gone either way, Calzaghe was given way more credit by compubox than he deserved, and up until Roy's cut he was landing a lot of flush punches whenever he threw.
    I guess everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I didn't really see the fight as even from 4th round on. I think the only thing Jones carried through that fight was that menacing smile he's always had. Not sure how he kept that smile through all those punches...

    Calz best punches in that fight were right hooks to the body. It completely neutralized a Jones late rally.

    Compubox or no. There is hardly a way to give Jones the nod for his "effort"
    Watch the 4th round, Calzaghe doesn't land a whole lot, then he gets Roy on the ropes and Roy counters him with like 12 clean punches to which Calzaghe has no answer but to show boat, and gets hit three times cleanly again with his hands down.

    THe fifth I give to Calzaghe in a close round, then in the sixth Roy IMO lands the better punches while Calzaghe isn't landing a whole lot, then Roy doesn't win a round until the 12th. Roy doesn't get hurt to the body, and Calzaghe never made him flinch, Calzaghe did land some good body punches, but Roy easily took them, he's always had a solid body that could take anything dished out to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
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    Yeah right, Calzaghe could hardly land anything cleanly, even after Roy couldn't only see out of one eye, still 90% of Calzaghe's punches were hitting Roy more on the gloves than on the head. After the first six rounds Roy was even with Calzaghe on the scorecards, or should have been, except round 3, the rest of them could have gone either way, Calzaghe was given way more credit by compubox than he deserved, and up until Roy's cut he was landing a lot of flush punches whenever he threw.
    I guess everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I didn't really see the fight as even from 4th round on. I think the only thing Jones carried through that fight was that menacing smile he's always had. Not sure how he kept that smile through all those punches...

    Calz best punches in that fight were right hooks to the body. It completely neutralized a Jones late rally.

    Compubox or no. There is hardly a way to give Jones the nod for his "effort"
    Watch the 4th round, Calzaghe doesn't land a whole lot, then he gets Roy on the ropes and Roy counters him with like 12 clean punches to which Calzaghe has no answer but to show boat, and gets hit three times cleanly again with his hands down.

    THe fifth I give to Calzaghe in a close round, then in the sixth Roy IMO lands the better punches while Calzaghe isn't landing a whole lot, then Roy doesn't win a round until the 12th. Roy doesn't get hurt to the body, and Calzaghe never made him flinch, Calzaghe did land some good body punches, but Roy easily took them, he's always had a solid body that could take anything dished out to it.
    Yes he did. His body was always solid. You used to see him even in his prime go to the ropes and let his opponent attack his body while he took a breather, then out he'd come and smack whoever all over a bit more.

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