"Hatton's Last Fight with Malignaggi breakdown"

[Spoon23]

If you want to assess a fighters "present" skill status you best check out his previous fight. Malignaggi was Hatton's last fight. So was that fight an impressive win for Hatton? Knowing the facts we can really see a telling story about how good he really was that night. After the loss with money may, I believe his last 2 fight wasn't at all that impressive. Most especially if you breakdown what really happened during that fight.
People failed to remember, Malignaggi right hand was always injured through the course of his career making it really brittle the more he fought, and as you can see during the fight his right hand had no power to hurt ricky. Watching that fight again, Malignaggi wasnt the old relentless style fighter that he was, but a left hand "one handed jabber fighter" the whole fight and rarely brought out his brittle right hand on the table. Making it clearly a suspected brittle right hand as stated by Emanual steward during the fight. He was a one handed fighter that night. Ricky should definitely stop Malignaggi in that circumstances. An "A" class fighter should definitely defeat a one handed fighter without a punchers chance of even flooring him. That said, Ricky fighting pacman is whole different story. His fighting a guy with power and speed in both hands unlike Malignaggi cotton right hand. What I'm trying to say to you guys is that you shouldn't be impressed with ricky's win over Malignaggi. His right hand rarely used during the fight making it a suspected broken right fist with no power. A one handed fighter that night is so readable by the likes of ricky. I don't think a two handed fighter with power in the likes of pacman is easy to read by hatton. Case in pt, Ricky didn't prove anything fighting a 1 handed fighter while Manny has stunned us with his brilliance in his last fight. That's where you can see who's a better fighter between the two. A handicap fighter fighting with 1 hand was Hatton's opponent that night, he was just their to boost hatton's confidence for super fights. But that said Hatton's last 2 fights weren't brilliant so go figure if his still good in your eyes

[Gandalf]

If you want to assess a fighters "present" skill status you best check out his previous fight. Malignaggi was Hatton's last fight. So was that fight an impressive win for Hatton? Knowing the facts we can really see a telling story about how good he really was that night. After the loss with money may, I believe his last 2 fight wasn't at all that impressive. Most especially if you breakdown what really happened during that fight.
People failed to remember, Malignaggi right hand was always injured through the course of his career making it really brittle the more he fought, and as you can see during the fight his right hand had no power to hurt ricky. Watching that fight again, Malignaggi wasnt the old relentless style fighter that he was, but a left hand "one handed jabber fighter" the whole fight and rarely brought out his brittle right hand on the table. Making it clearly a suspected brittle right hand as stated by Emanual steward during the fight. He was a one handed fighter that night. Ricky should definitely stop Malignaggi in that circumstances. An "A" class fighter should definitely defeat a one handed fighter without a punchers chance of even flooring him. That said, Ricky fighting pacman is whole different story. His fighting a guy with power and speed in both hands unlike Malignaggi cotton right hand. What I'm trying to say to you guys is that you shouldn't be impressed with ricky's win over Malignaggi. His right hand rarely used during the fight making it a suspected broken right fist with no power. A one handed fighter that night is so readable by the likes of ricky. I don't think a two handed fighter with power in the likes of pacman is easy to read by hatton. Case in pt, Ricky didn't prove jAck **** fighting a 1 handed fighter while manny has stunned us with his brilliance in his last fight. That's where you can see who's a better fighter between the two. A handicap fighter fighting with 1 hand was Hatton's opponent that night, he was just their to boost hatton's confidence for super fights. But that said Hatton's last 2 fights weren't brilliant so go figure if his still good in your eyes

Yawn.

[Boxerharvey]

If you want to assess a fighters "present" skill status you best check out his previous fight. Malignaggi was Hatton's last fight. So was that fight an impressive win for Hatton? Knowing the facts we can really see a telling story about how good he really was that night. After the loss with money may, I believe his last 2 fight wasn't at all that impressive. Most especially if you breakdown what really happened during that fight.
People failed to remember, Malignaggi right hand was always injured through the course of his career making it really brittle the more he fought, and as you can see during the fight his right hand had no power to hurt ricky. Watching that fight again, Malignaggi wasnt the old relentless style fighter that he was, but a left hand "one handed jabber fighter" the whole fight and rarely brought out his brittle right hand on the table. Making it clearly a suspected brittle right hand as stated by Emanual steward during the fight. He was a one handed fighter that night. Ricky should definitely stop Malignaggi in that circumstances. An "A" class fighter should definitely defeat a one handed fighter without a punchers chance of even flooring him. That said, Ricky fighting pacman is whole different story. His fighting a guy with power and speed in both hands unlike Malignaggi cotton right hand. What I'm trying to say to you guys is that you shouldn't be impressed with ricky's win over Malignaggi. His right hand rarely used during the fight making it a suspected broken right fist with no power. A one handed fighter that night is so readable by the likes of ricky. I don't think a two handed fighter with power in the likes of pacman is easy to read by hatton. Case in pt, Ricky didn't prove jAck **** fighting a 1 handed fighter while manny has stunned us with his brilliance in his last fight. That's where you can see who's a better fighter between the two. A handicap fighter fighting with 1 hand was Hatton's opponent that night, he was just their to boost hatton's confidence for super fights. But that said Hatton's last 2 fights weren't brilliant so go figure if his still good in your eyes

Yawn.

Styles make fights and every fighter has a bad night when it comes to boxing so to judge a fighter by his last performance is bullshit.
For example just look at Mosleys last performace against Mayorga, Mosley struggled with Mayorgas unorthodox style and didnt look half the fighter we are used to seeing in the ring and when he took the fight with Margarito whos last fight was one of the best wins of his career with the stoppage of Cotto hardley anyone (me included and im a massive Mosley fan) gave Shane a chance let alone to KO Margarito. Never judge a fighter by there last performance.

[Spoon23]

If you want to assess a fighters "present" skill status you best check out his previous fight. Malignaggi was Hatton's last fight. So was that fight an impressive win for Hatton? Knowing the facts we can really see a telling story about how good he really was that night. After the loss with money may, I believe his last 2 fight wasn't at all that impressive. Most especially if you breakdown what really happened during that fight.
People failed to remember, Malignaggi right hand was always injured through the course of his career making it really brittle the more he fought, and as you can see during the fight his right hand had no power to hurt ricky. Watching that fight again, Malignaggi wasnt the old relentless style fighter that he was, but a left hand "one handed jabber fighter" the whole fight and rarely brought out his brittle right hand on the table. Making it clearly a suspected brittle right hand as stated by Emanual steward during the fight. He was a one handed fighter that night. Ricky should definitely stop Malignaggi in that circumstances. An "A" class fighter should definitely defeat a one handed fighter without a punchers chance of even flooring him. That said, Ricky fighting pacman is whole different story. His fighting a guy with power and speed in both hands unlike Malignaggi cotton right hand. What I'm trying to say to you guys is that you shouldn't be impressed with ricky's win over Malignaggi. His right hand rarely used during the fight making it a suspected broken right fist with no power. A one handed fighter that night is so readable by the likes of ricky. I don't think a two handed fighter with power in the likes of pacman is easy to read by hatton. Case in pt, Ricky didn't prove jAck **** fighting a 1 handed fighter while manny has stunned us with his brilliance in his last fight. That's where you can see who's a better fighter between the two. A handicap fighter fighting with 1 hand was Hatton's opponent that night, he was just their to boost hatton's confidence for super fights. But that said Hatton's last 2 fights weren't brilliant so go figure if his still good in your eyes

Yawn.

Styles make fights and every fighter has a bad night when it comes to boxing so to judge a fighter by his last performance is bullshit.
For example just look at Mosleys last performace against Mayorga, Mosley struggled with Mayorgas unorthodox style and didnt look half the fighter we are used to seeing in the ring and when he took the fight with Margarito whos last fight was one of the best wins of his career with the stoppage of Cotto hardley anyone (me included and im a massive Mosley fan) gave Shane a chance let alone to KO Margarito. Never judge a fighter by there last performance.

Mate, I believe styles makes fights. What you didn't understand is regarding my post that I'm just trying to tell the readers Hatton's last fight shouldn't be considered great. Hatton fought a one handed fighter making him looked brilliant in the fight, but really was he? knowing his oponnent was handicaped fighting a 1 handed fighter do you still consider that fight an amazing achievment for ricky?. And based on Hatton's previous 2 fights before his fights with malignaggi. You think he did good to. Just stating that watching past 'recent' fights would tell if a fighter is declining or stagnant or improving. I guess for me Hatton seem to be stagnant or declining even with the help of may senior.

[Hunter]

Spoon23:

Are you Moono's brother?

[Gandalf]

Yawn.

Styles make fights and every fighter has a bad night when it comes to boxing so to judge a fighter by his last performance is bullshit.
For example just look at Mosleys last performace against Mayorga, Mosley struggled with Mayorgas unorthodox style and didnt look half the fighter we are used to seeing in the ring and when he took the fight with Margarito whos last fight was one of the best wins of his career with the stoppage of Cotto hardley anyone (me included and im a massive Mosley fan) gave Shane a chance let alone to KO Margarito. Never judge a fighter by there last performance.

Mate, I believe styles makes fights. What you didn't understand is regarding my post that I'm just trying to tell the readers Hatton's last fight shouldn't be considered great. Hatton fought a one handed fighter making him looked brilliant in the fight, but really was he? knowing his oponnent was handicaped fighting a 1 handed fighter do you still consider that fight an amazing achievment for ricky?. And based on Hatton's previous 2 fights before his fights with malignaggi. You think he did good to. Just stating that watching past 'recent' fights would tell if a fighter is declining or stagnant or improving. I guess for me Hatton seem to be stagnant or declining even with the help of may senior.

And Pac beat an Oscar who was screwed up on slimming pills or something. What is your point? Oh, the one armed fighter Malignaggi excuse. He did alright for a guy with one hand.

Pac has struggled at smaller weights with Marquez and Morales.

Hatton has struggled at higher weights against Mayweather and Collazo.

It's a fight with few common opponents to judge from. It's a pick 'em. Just shut up and agree with me.

[Spoon23]

Styles make fights and every fighter has a bad night when it comes to boxing so to judge a fighter by his last performance is bullshit.
For example just look at Mosleys last performace against Mayorga, Mosley struggled with Mayorgas unorthodox style and didnt look half the fighter we are used to seeing in the ring and when he took the fight with Margarito whos last fight was one of the best wins of his career with the stoppage of Cotto hardley anyone (me included and im a massive Mosley fan) gave Shane a chance let alone to KO Margarito. Never judge a fighter by there last performance.

Mate, I believe styles makes fights. What you didn't understand is regarding my post that I'm just trying to tell the readers Hatton's last fight shouldn't be considered great. Hatton fought a one handed fighter making him looked brilliant in the fight, but really was he? knowing his oponnent was handicaped fighting a 1 handed fighter do you still consider that fight an amazing achievment for ricky?. And based on Hatton's previous 2 fights before his fights with malignaggi. You think he did good to. Just stating that watching past 'recent' fights would tell if a fighter is declining or stagnant or improving. I guess for me Hatton seem to be stagnant or declining even with the help of may senior.

And Pac beat an Oscar who was screwed up on slimming pills or something. What is your point? Oh, the one armed fighter Malignaggi excuse. He did alright for a guy with one hand.

Pac has struggled at smaller weights with Marquez and Morales.

Hatton has struggled at higher weights against Mayweather and Collazo.

It's a fight with few common opponents to judge from. It's a pick 'em. Just shut up and agree with me.

Bro, that's my point. Hatton did pretty good with a one handed fighter. Was that fair? He was actually fighting a 'c' Class fighter that used to be 'b'. Just to eleborate 'c' class coz he is now a one handed fighter getz?? It was just a confidence boost for him. Regarding Oscar's slimming pills. Didn't pacman start 2008 at 130lbs to fight marquez, and on december 8 jumping to 147, so even if you tell me he was weight drained which delahoya clearly said on 24/7 his in his best form of his life. Everything was 'even' come fight night. Manny is no welter, but he beat a legit welter even if his weight drained. Manny went up 17 lbs. even if you think delahoya was a slim guy was still the bigger guy so if you based it on handicaps Dlh vs Pacman was about even that night. Who won that fight was the better guy period. peace =) And pac struggling at lower weights, didn't you notice pacs evolution, his getting better, hasn't peacked yet. Hence, pac struggled with morales on there first fight factor in pacs cut in the eye almost knocking morales down on the 12. Then beating him up on the 2nd and 3rd fight shows his evolution. About marquez which pac floored 3 times on the first fight to get a draw and then after four years got knocked dwn again on the 3rd round and almost goes down on the 10th, but it was close but what larry merchant said thast night marquez brothers always seem to come out short against the better fighhters. That said marquez is no pushover that's why his rated 2nd pound for pound now that calzahe is away. See my point just admit the facts mate. Hatton is an underdog but for every fighter, they all have a chance of winning but slimmer though. Yawn lol

[XaduBoxer]

If you based it on their respective last fights, Hatton's accomplishment pales in comparison to PAC...

Even if we based it on the last 2 fights; Hatton's performance over Malignaggi and Lazcano compared to PAC's performance over Hoya and Diaz, there's no comparison...

If we rank Hatton compared to PAC's last 2 opponent, it might look like this:

Hoya
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Hatton
Diaz


If we rank PAC compared to Hatton's last 2 opponent, it might look like this:

PAC
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.
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Lazcano / Malignaggi

There's really no comparison... That's why I think Hatton will be beaten very badly by PAC on this fight...
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[BIG H]

If you want to assess a fighters "present" skill status you best check out his previous fight. Malignaggi was Hatton's last fight. So was that fight an impressive win for Hatton? Knowing the facts we can really see a telling story about how good he really was that night. After the loss with money may, I believe his last 2 fight wasn't at all that impressive. Most especially if you breakdown what really happened during that fight.
People failed to remember, Malignaggi right hand was always injured through the course of his career making it really brittle the more he fought, and as you can see during the fight his right hand had no power to hurt ricky. Watching that fight again, Malignaggi wasnt the old relentless style fighter that he was, but a left hand "one handed jabber fighter" the whole fight and rarely brought out his brittle right hand on the table. Making it clearly a suspected brittle right hand as stated by Emanual steward during the fight. He was a one handed fighter that night. Ricky should definitely stop Malignaggi in that circumstances. An "A" class fighter should definitely defeat a one handed fighter without a punchers chance of even flooring him. That said, Ricky fighting pacman is whole different story. His fighting a guy with power and speed in both hands unlike Malignaggi cotton right hand. What I'm trying to say to you guys is that you shouldn't be impressed with ricky's win over Malignaggi. His right hand rarely used during the fight making it a suspected broken right fist with no power. A one handed fighter that night is so readable by the likes of ricky. I don't think a two handed fighter with power in the likes of pacman is easy to read by hatton. Case in pt, Ricky didn't prove jAck **** fighting a 1 handed fighter while manny has stunned us with his brilliance in his last fight. That's where you can see who's a better fighter between the two. A handicap fighter fighting with 1 hand was Hatton's opponent that night, he was just their to boost hatton's confidence for super fights. But that said Hatton's last 2 fights weren't brilliant so go figure if his still good in your eyes

3 posts, all new threads and all about Hatton, looking a bit like a troll here. You haven't been here before by any chance have you

[ono]

What would you say is a bigger hinderance....sore right hand or being severley weight-drained.

Collazo fractured his hand against Mosley yet people give Shane credit for it.

Paulie broke his right hand against Cotto yet everyone claims how good a beat down it was (it was quite a close fight on the cards).

So yeah, good post

[Spoon23]

What would you say is a bigger hinderance....sore right hand or being severley weight-drained.

Collazo fractured his hand against Mosley yet people give Shane credit for it.

Paulie broke his right hand against Cotto yet everyone claims how good a beat down it was (it was quite a close fight on the cards).

So yeah, good post

Dlh wasn't weight drained at all that fight he was just slim from eating kangaroo meat. He was floating around 145lbs during his training as seen on 24/7. A weight drained fighter has to lose extra poundage on the day of the weigh-in. In his case he was not, even ricky mentioned in sentana sports Dlh looked fabulous in the weigh-in. looks hydrated pretty well during the weigh-in.

But if you ask me which is a bigger hindrance, depends really how much he has to lose on the day of the weigh-in. But fighting with 1 hand in boxing is like playing basketball or golf with one hand. You just can't play good. Hence, having a 1 handed fighter is like fighting a novice really. Paulie had no chance for Hatton on that night. He was just their for the money. Hatton should have stopped him even earlier really.

Paulie was cherry picked, as a confidence booster for hatton

[littlebif]

[quote=Spoon23;687360]

Paulie had no chance for Hatton on that night. He was just their for the money. Hatton should have stopped him even earlier really.

Paulie was cherry picked, as a confidence booster for hatton

Hatton would of stopped him but Paulie held on to Hatton round after round and was getting away with it.

Alot of people were saying Paulie had the style to beat Hatton.

[fan johnny]

What would you say is a bigger hinderance....sore right hand or being severley weight-drained.

Collazo fractured his hand against Mosley yet people give Shane credit for it.

Paulie broke his right hand against Cotto yet everyone claims how good a beat down it was (it was quite a close fight on the cards).

So yeah, good post

Dlh wasn't weight drained at all that fight he was just slim from eating kangaroo meat. He was floating around 145lbs during his training as seen on 24/7. A weight drained fighter has to lose extra poundage on the day of the weigh-in. In his case he was not, even ricky mentioned in sentana sports Dlh looked fabulous in the weigh-in. looks hydrated pretty well during the weigh-in.

But if you ask me which is a bigger hindrance, depends really how much he has to lose on the day of the weigh-in. But fighting with 1 hand in boxing is like playing basketball or golf with one hand. You just can't play good. Hence, having a 1 handed fighter is like fighting a novice really. Paulie had no chance for Hatton on that night. He was just their for the money. Hatton should have stopped him even earlier really.

Paulie was cherry picked, as a confidence booster for hatton

Dude! you are embarrassing yourself...

Weight has a lot to do with body type & age. Ocsar was more 'natural' at 160/154 for his size a maturity. The advantage Pacquiao had going into the fight is that Oscar would have to be 'weight drained' to step into the ring at 147. At 35 years of age he needed the body fat to draw energy from. The intensity level and stress leading up to the fight looks like it wreaked havoc on Oscar. His nutritionist fuked up and left Oscar with no energy for the fight. He's what 2% body fat? 4% to 6% is a proper number for a guy in his prime.

[Spoon23]

What would you say is a bigger hinderance....sore right hand or being severley weight-drained.

Collazo fractured his hand against Mosley yet people give Shane credit for it.

Paulie broke his right hand against Cotto yet everyone claims how good a beat down it was (it was quite a close fight on the cards).

So yeah, good post

Dlh wasn't weight drained at all that fight he was just slim from eating kangaroo meat. He was floating around 145lbs during his training as seen on 24/7. A weight drained fighter has to lose extra poundage on the day of the weigh-in. In his case he was not, even ricky mentioned in sentana sports Dlh looked fabulous in the weigh-in. looks hydrated pretty well during the weigh-in.

But if you ask me which is a bigger hindrance, depends really how much he has to lose on the day of the weigh-in. But fighting with 1 hand in boxing is like playing basketball or golf with one hand. You just can't play good. Hence, having a 1 handed fighter is like fighting a novice really. Paulie had no chance for Hatton on that night. He was just their for the money. Hatton should have stopped him even earlier really.

Paulie was cherry picked, as a confidence booster for hatton

Dude! you are embarrassing yourself...

Weight has a lot to do with body type & age. Ocsar was more 'natural' at 160/154 for his size a maturity. The advantage Pacquiao had going into the fight is that Oscar would have to be 'weight drained' to step into the ring at 147. At 35 years of age he needed the body fat to draw energy from. The intensity level and stress leading up to the fight looks like it wreaked havoc on Oscar. His nutritionist fuked up and left Oscar with no energy for the fight. He's what 2% body fat? 4% to 6% is a proper number for a guy in his prime.

Ricky Hatton was in the weigh-in for Delahoya vs pacman. And during the fight he clearly said I thought Dlh looked fabulous during the weigh-in. So he wasn't dehydrated coming from your famous country man.

And dehydrated means lack of water in the body. Should look pail and gaunt. Didn't happen in the weigh-in Dlh looked good. At the fight when he was walking to the ring to fight he was "sweating" which is a sign that he is very much hydrated.

Your the one embarrassing yourself for telling me He was dehydrated, the correct term to use for Dlh is he was 'malnourished'. He was on the wrong diet plan. Which people having been blaming his nautritionist for his weight, but to say his dehydrated is FALSE. So their you go.

So knowing Pac started his carreer@ 112lbs reaching 147lbs to fight Dlh, and Dlh who fought @154 in his last fight, fought with steve forbes. then had to go down to147lbs to fight Pacman. I believe even if dlh was malnourished (which his not) going down to 147. Pac started 2008 @ 130lbs and previous to that, fought at 126lbs in 2007. And pac started his career at 112lbs. Knowing those facts he had to go up to 147lbs to fight dlh. I think even if dlh wasn't his best. They were both handicapped, even more so for pacman than him. So just for argument sake, they were evenly handicaped going in the fight. Both had to sacrifice something for the fight to happen. Dlh had the best trainer angelo dundee nacho, best nutritionist, best camp sight. He had everything going for him. Its just a matter of who will show up best in the fight. Lets just say they were evenly handicapped even more pronounced for pacman. I believe the guy who won deserved to win. The best man won that fight that night. Even Dlh said that after the fight, dundee, merchant and nacho even said his speed is too much. Why can't you give credit to what pac has accomplish. Nway. peace

[Spoon23]

What would you say is a bigger hinderance....sore right hand or being severley weight-drained.

Collazo fractured his hand against Mosley yet people give Shane credit for it.

Paulie broke his right hand against Cotto yet everyone claims how good a beat down it was (it was quite a close fight on the cards).

So yeah, good post

Dlh wasn't weight drained at all that fight he was just slim from eating kangaroo meat. He was floating around 145lbs during his training as seen on 24/7. A weight drained fighter has to lose extra poundage on the day of the weigh-in. In his case he was not, even ricky mentioned in sentana sports Dlh looked fabulous in the weigh-in. looks hydrated pretty well during the weigh-in.

But if you ask me which is a bigger hindrance, depends really how much he has to lose on the day of the weigh-in. But fighting with 1 hand in boxing is like playing basketball or golf with one hand. You just can't play good. Hence, having a 1 handed fighter is like fighting a novice really. Paulie had no chance for Hatton on that night. He was just their for the money. Hatton should have stopped him even earlier really.

Paulie was cherry picked, as a confidence booster for hatton

Dude! you are embarrassing yourself...

Weight has a lot to do with body type & age. Ocsar was more 'natural' at 160/154 for his size a maturity. The advantage Pacquiao had going into the fight is that Oscar would have to be 'weight drained' to step into the ring at 147. At 35 years of age he needed the body fat to draw energy from. The intensity level and stress leading up to the fight looks like it wreaked havoc on Oscar. His nutritionist fuked up and left Oscar with no energy for the fight. He's what 2% body fat? 4% to 6% is a proper number for a guy in his prime.

"The kid was in great shape. So he wasn’t the winner that night. That is the way I put it. There are no excuses, nothing. The better fighter that night won, Manny Pacquiao." Angelo Dundee