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    i was watchin sum old james toney fights n readin up on him. i think it wos bob arum or sum1 who said that he could of been te greatest.
    i kinda agree with his slick style n skills he could of been amazing
    its soo bad that he didnt have enough discipline
    imagine what he would of become if he did. if he was disciplined what u lot reckon he would of done and what would he of been today. i reckon he would of been still beeen a main attraction today like bernard hopkins

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    I think he was what he couldve been. He had a great career and was a great fighter! Multiple titles at multiple weight vs. his generations best fighters. Dont know what else he could have done really.
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    Oh,He was a great alright.Make no mistake about it.

    He did master the timing out of rounds though,at times too much but A ring general indeed.
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    Anyone else think the RJJ fight took a little out of him. I dont think he was ever quite as good after that fight even tho he did have some good wins after that. Whether he was weight drained or not i find it hard to see just about any SMW beating Jones that night. He was incredible. Discipline would have helped for sure.

    If nothing else i think James will forever have the best nickname in my mind.

    Anyone with wins over
    Nunn Barkley Mcallum Jirov Holyfield and Reggie Johnson has had a great career.
    Wish he could have fought Hopkins ar some stage.
    Last edited by eagle; 02-23-2009 at 12:20 AM.

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    Default Re: what Toney could of been

    Toney had a great career and IMO he is one of the most underrated fighters. He was one of the greats, a legend in the sport, but he cheated himself with his lack of discipline. He could have gone even higher than he did IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle View Post
    Anyone else think the RJJ fight took a little out of him. I dont think he was ever quite as good after that fight even tho he did have some good wins after that. Whether he was weight drained or not i find it hard to see just about any SMW beating Jones that night. He was incredible. Discipline would have helped for sure.

    If nothing else i think James will forever have the best nickname in my mind.

    Anyone with wins over
    Nunn Barkley Mcallum Jirov Holyfield and Reggie Johnson has had a great career.
    Wish he could have fought Hopkins ar some stage.
    At the time,I hated to admit it but Im convinced that Jones Jr. totally and completly got into Toneys head,psyched him out.Vast majority of Career it was Toney with supreme confidence and massive swagger.....But to jones credit,he turned the tables inside and outside of the ring.Huge Toney fan...but regardless of weight issues,he was beaten Toney that night.

    Following that fight up with a Griffin match was just not well thought out.I think Griffin was a poor mans Jones.Not on same level at but extremely shifty,good thinker.Good call on Hopkins match,prime for prime at Middle....what a dream fight we might have had.

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    I thought he won both Griffen fights and got robbed. Thats another thing, he's been on the wrong end of a few decisions (he beat Samuel Peter in the first fight)

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle View Post
    Anyone else think the RJJ fight took a little out of him. I dont think he was ever quite as good after that fight even tho he did have some good wins after that. Whether he was weight drained or not i find it hard to see just about any SMW beating Jones that night. He was incredible. Discipline would have helped for sure.

    If nothing else i think James will forever have the best nickname in my mind.

    Anyone with wins over
    Nunn Barkley Mcallum Jirov Holyfield and Reggie Johnson has had a great career.
    Wish he could have fought Hopkins ar some stage.
    I wish i could answer that its a maybe answer for me but Jones was just too damn fast for james thats it no matter what prime for prime roy just comes out on top.

    the rest or your post is straight

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