If Mayweather returns...

[CFH]

..and beats JMM and Pacquiao at 140/147, will people give him credit for it, or will they continue to say that he cherry picked his fights and delegitimize these victories by saying that he beat up on smaller fighters and ducked Mosley/Williams/Cotto/Aaron Pryor?

I'm curious how people feel about this. I know he's supposedly retired, but with all the rumblings of his imminent return, I because curious to know how people would feel if he came back to fight JMM and Pacquiao instead of taking on the champions at 147.

Disclaimer: This is not a thread about Manny Pacquaio, please do not turn it into one. It is about the way Mayweather is/would be percieved.

Disclaimer II: The Aaron Pryor comment was a reference to SRL, it was a joke. I'm aware that Pryor is no longer fighting and that PBF never ducked him. Thank you.

[leftylee]

I think Pac beats Hatton. Too much speed and power

[smashup]

If Mayweather returns...


No one at all can or will beat him.

Floyd's different gear to the rest of em.

[DatsiK]

I don't know... JMM and Pac are (arguably) the biggest names right now so to fight them would make more money sense but I'm sure the haters will hate on him for fighting naturally smaller guys.

I'd personally give him credit and he would be right back up there at p4p #1.

[Youngblood]

I hate to say it for am eating my own words in doing so, but I think this sport really needs Mayweather back. At one time I thought screw him and the drama, it'll be fine, but now feel it needs it for both for the fights and to have more fan boys of a different variety.

[JT Rock]

Floyd could beat Klitschko, Adamek, Hopkins, Kessler, Pavlik, Forrest and still would get crap for it...

Floyd is an all time great, a phenom that makes people so bitter and hateful that I enjoy watching it eat away at them

[Rocky Balboa]

Agreed with every post here except maybe leftlee. I desparately want PBF back. If he comes back outta retirement I'll have my house wallpapered in PBF picture. I'll change my entire wardrobe to PBF-theme (shirts etc). I'll watch him training three times a day. I will watch (and possibly attend) every single press conference and memorize PBF's every word.......... haha, in all seriousness I will be excited, very excited if Mayweather comes out of retirement. And if he has an exciting fight like with Phillip Ndou WOW, I will be.... words can explain

Come Back Floyd!!!!

[leftylee]

Back on topic, I don't want him back whatsoever.

He's just a loud, arrogant prick who ducks the best.

I don't mind arrogant fighters so long they back up there talk, but Floyd doesn't. He states he's the very best, so fight the very best, simple as. But he doesn't.

His blatant ducking of Antonio Maragrito was pathetic.

Instead he chooses to fight Ricky Hatton who ain't even a welterweight, a shot Gatti, shot Mitchell, mentally unstable Judah, plodder Baldomir...you can see where this is going.

When there's prime Berto's, Clottey's, Cotto's, Mosely's around.

I hope his ass stays in retirement.

[brucelee]

Agreed with every post here except maybe leftlee. I desparately want PBF back. If he comes back outta retirement I'll have my house wallpapered in PBF picture. I'll change my entire wardrobe to PBF-theme (shirts etc). I'll watch him training three times a day. I will watch (and possibly attend) every single press conference and memorize PBF's every word.......... haha, in all seriousness I will be excited, very excited if Mayweather comes out of retirement. And if he has an exciting fight like with Phillip Ndou WOW, I will be.... words can explain

Come Back Floyd!!!!

Now that's what you call nuthugging.


Going back to the issue,

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else( He stays retired)

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[Manuel "Chubby" Medina]

Mayweather is on a whole other level but watchin the Castillo fight I foun dout that he is not invincible.
I dont like Mayweather's personality but his skills are just undenyable if he beat JMM and Pac he will be P4P #1 and deserve to be named a legend.

[ElTerribleMorales]

I think Pac beats Hatton. Too much speed and power

yet in another thread you said Hatton smashes Pac in like 5

[Galaxy]

I personally would give Mayweather credit for wins over Pacquiao & Marquez. They are both future Hall of Famer's & would both be among the P4P at the time of the fights. Which in all essence would throw the weight arguements out the window imo.

But your always going to get the haters that will never give him credit no matter what he does. If he came back & defeated Mosley it would be Mosley got old over night, if he beat Berto it would be to green, Williams was weight drained etc etc

[Gandalf]

I would like to see Mayweather take on a new challenge and face a proper fighter at 147. Namely Mosley or Cotto. Mayweather took too many easy fights in recent years in names like Baldomir, Mitchell, Bruseles etc. The big names he fought had question marks ie Zab coming off a lame loss, Hatton out of his weight class, Gatti was a star but limited etc.

Im not so sure Mayweather will even come back. I think that like Calzaghe he was losing interest towards the end, and that might have explained some of Mayweathers opponent choices too. He was looking to cash out as big and easy as he could. If he did come back it probably would be against someone like Pac or Hatton. I wouldn't mind seeing Hatton get a rematch because it might have evened out somewhat between them. But I would prefer a proper WW fight, doubt Mayweather would be up that though.

[leftylee]

I think Pac beats Hatton. Too much speed and power

yet in another thread you said Hatton smashes Pac in like 5

You ever heard of sarcasm dumbass ?

[JazMerkin]

I think both these fights would be worth it for his ATG rating, however, there would definitely be people who said 'oh he just beat up on smaller fighters'. If he beat Vitali there would doubtless be those who would say 'oh well Vitali clearly got old overnight'. Even though I'm a big fan of his, I actually don't think boxing needs him, I think there's enough good fights left. There will always be good young fighters coming through, hell he could beat Cotto, Mosley, Clottey & Berto, & then people would say he's duckin Victor Ortiz or Demetrius Andrade.

Also the argument about his weight is defunct, the fact is he is the smaller man than Hatton, the difference is he was actually coming down in weight after beating ODLH, which Hatton's team were claiming up until the start of the fight would affect him & leave him out of shape. They were saying before the fight how small he was & how Hatton would overpower him, so you can't make excuses after. Mayweather has a similar build to Casamayor all round (I think he might be an inch taller) but for me this makes him a natural lightweight or light-welter who has just chosen to fight above his weight.