Shane Mosley vs Manny Pacquiao

[Majesty]

As ridiculous as it sounds it seems to be a fight Shane is chasing. He has said in interviews recently that Pacquiao wouldn't be able to go 12 rounds with him so assuming Pacquiao gets by Hatton would you really want this fight to happen?

At this point I think its way too steep a step for Pacquiao, Mosley has more left at this point and still has speed power and a chin and i think Pacquiao would be way in over his head in this one.

Should this fight ever happen? In the interview danny_g put up Nazim said he'd want it, and in an interview i seen with shane it looks like he wants it too.

Do the fans want it?

[Taeth]

In all honesty if Manny can handle Mosley's power he has a good chance in this fight, he punches straighter, has the same speed, and higher output. That left cross from Winky was a nightmare for Mosley much nearer to his prime, I think Manny will be able to land that punch at will. Also Mosley is the same elite level of technical boxer JMM was, I am not sure if he has the boxing ability to really exploit Manny's flaws. The only two people around Manny's weight I see that can/could do that are Mayweather and JMM.

People comment about Oscar being weight drained, but fighters who are weight drained aren't 3 pounds away from the weigh-in weight a week and more in advance. I think his corner made the mistake of trying to make him really light on his feet so he could rush in after Manny through that left hand ala JMM, but it really backfired because he wasn't quick enough to do that.

[fan johnny]

In all honesty if Manny can handle Mosley's power he has a good chance in this fight, he punches straighter, has the same speed, and higher output. That left cross from Winky was a nightmare for Mosley much nearer to his prime, I think Manny will be able to land that punch at will. Also Mosley is the same elite level of technical boxer JMM was, I am not sure if he has the boxing ability to really exploit Manny's flaws. The only two people around Manny's weight I see that can/could do that are Mayweather and JMM.

People comment about Oscar being weight drained, but fighters who are weight drained aren't 3 pounds away from the weigh-in weight a week and more in advance. I think his corner made the mistake of trying to make him really light on his feet so he could rush in after Manny through that left hand ala JMM, but it really backfired because he wasn't quick enough to do that.

This is a complete fallacy.... being "weight drained" is just a term used to basically say he had no stamina. It is not technical in terms of boxing nutrition. It was obvious that De La Hoya had a lack of stamina for his fight with Pacquiao.

IMO: Pacquiao originally setup Margarito as his target after Hatton, but since that fell through.... Cotto stepped into the #2 slot. When Mosley beat Margarito, Mosley had since murmured Pacquiao's name hoping to get a shot at that mega money. Since JMM defeated Diaz it put him back on the list. So provided Pacquiao comes away with the bigger half of the wishbone the list is like this:

#1 PBF
#2 MC
#3 SSM
#4 JMM

It all depends on the outcome of Hatton/Pacquiao, Cotto/Clottey and if PBF unretires. It's a toss up as to which is the bigger money draw with Marquez or Mosley. The primary reason Cotto is before SSM and JMM is Cotto is with Top Rank. How powerful is the mega money.......? I don't think we'll see either Mosley or Marquez line up another fight without knowing the fate of Pacquiao / Hatton and Pacquiao's next opponent.

[Taeth]

Oscar was boxing 12 rounds fine in the gym, I don't think it was stamina, he just couldn't catch Pacquiao, people said he had no snap on his punches, but Pacquiao never let him find the range, hence Oscar was only throwing range finders against Manny. Mayweather made the mistake of getting caught on the ropes, and not using enough movement against Oscar, but Manny didn't.

IMO I think Mosley is a harder opponent for Pacquiao than Cotto. IMO I don't see Cotto being able to catch Pacquiao in a big ring. Timing is important, but as good as Cotto's timing is, his footspeed and his timing aren't comparable to JMM, like we saw with Oscar I think Pacquiao could get in and out before Cotto would be able to react, Judah never used enough footwork, or that fight would have been a lot tougher for Cotto because Judah should have throw the left cross and uppercut all night, but he didn't, nor did he set them up at all.

[Hunter]

I think the biggest money fight would be the winner of Hatton/Pac against Mosley.....Unless Money comes back than it would be winner of Hatton/pac vs Mayweather.

[fan johnny]

I think the biggest money fight would be the winner of Hatton/Pac against Mosley.....Unless Money comes back than it would be winner of Hatton/pac vs Mayweather.

Even though there is buzz about JMM, I agree.... I also think the biggest money fight, provided Pacquiao wins East/West, is Mosley. The only thing is Top Rank has already lined up Cotto as long as he comes out the winner in June.

[eagle]

Pac has to be careful for a couple of reasons. Firstly he cant let all this media speculation distract him from his first task, defeating Hatton. Take Ricky lightly and he could get hurt, and all these big fights will be out the window.
Pac also has to realise his limitations. He wins a lot of fights against fighters who are arguably more skilled than him thru having speed, strength and chin. Against Mosely he would be giving up atleast 2 of these (strength and chin) and maybe even 3 cos Shane aint slow.
I guess we'll know a lot more after the Hatton fight but i think if Shane is at the same level he was against Margarito in a Pac fight he takes out Pac in 6.

[eagle]

In all honesty if Manny can handle Mosley's power he has a good chance in this fight, he punches straighter, has the same speed, and higher output. That left cross from Winky was a nightmare for Mosley much nearer to his prime, I think Manny will be able to land that punch at will. Also Mosley is the same elite level of technical boxer JMM was, I am not sure if he has the boxing ability to really exploit Manny's flaws. The only two people around Manny's weight I see that can/could do that are Mayweather and JMM.

People comment about Oscar being weight drained, but fighters who are weight drained aren't 3 pounds away from the weigh-in weight a week and more in advance. I think his corner made the mistake of trying to make him really light on his feet so he could rush in after Manny through that left hand ala JMM, but it really backfired because he wasn't quick enough to do that.

This is a complete fallacy.... being "weight drained" is just a term used to basically say he had no stamina. It is not technical in terms of boxing nutrition. It was obvious that De La Hoya had a lack of stamina for his fight with Pacquiao.

IMO: Pacquiao originally setup Margarito as his target after Hatton, but since that fell through.... Cotto stepped into the #2 slot. When Mosley beat Margarito, Mosley had since murmured Pacquiao's name hoping to get a shot at that mega money. Since JMM defeated Diaz it put him back on the list. So provided Pacquiao comes away with the bigger half of the wishbone the list is like this:

#1 PBF
#2 MC
#3 SSM
#4 JMM

It all depends on the outcome of Hatton/Pacquiao, Cotto/Clottey and if PBF unretires. It's a toss up as to which is the bigger money draw with Marquez or Mosley. The primary reason Cotto is before SSM and JMM is Cotto is with Top Rank. How powerful is the mega money.......? I don't think we'll see either Mosley or Marquez line up another fight without knowing the fate of Pacquiao / Hatton and Pacquiao's next opponent.

I've heard a number of Pac fans say Manny was weight drained when he got KTFO by singsurat, so if weight drain is a 'fallacy' did Manny lose that fight fair and square?

[Taeth]

In all honesty if Manny can handle Mosley's power he has a good chance in this fight, he punches straighter, has the same speed, and higher output. That left cross from Winky was a nightmare for Mosley much nearer to his prime, I think Manny will be able to land that punch at will. Also Mosley is the same elite level of technical boxer JMM was, I am not sure if he has the boxing ability to really exploit Manny's flaws. The only two people around Manny's weight I see that can/could do that are Mayweather and JMM.

People comment about Oscar being weight drained, but fighters who are weight drained aren't 3 pounds away from the weigh-in weight a week and more in advance. I think his corner made the mistake of trying to make him really light on his feet so he could rush in after Manny through that left hand ala JMM, but it really backfired because he wasn't quick enough to do that.

This is a complete fallacy.... being "weight drained" is just a term used to basically say he had no stamina. It is not technical in terms of boxing nutrition. It was obvious that De La Hoya had a lack of stamina for his fight with Pacquiao.

IMO: Pacquiao originally setup Margarito as his target after Hatton, but since that fell through.... Cotto stepped into the #2 slot. When Mosley beat Margarito, Mosley had since murmured Pacquiao's name hoping to get a shot at that mega money. Since JMM defeated Diaz it put him back on the list. So provided Pacquiao comes away with the bigger half of the wishbone the list is like this:

#1 PBF
#2 MC
#3 SSM
#4 JMM

It all depends on the outcome of Hatton/Pacquiao, Cotto/Clottey and if PBF unretires. It's a toss up as to which is the bigger money draw with Marquez or Mosley. The primary reason Cotto is before SSM and JMM is Cotto is with Top Rank. How powerful is the mega money.......? I don't think we'll see either Mosley or Marquez line up another fight without knowing the fate of Pacquiao / Hatton and Pacquiao's next opponent.

I've heard a number of Pac fans say Manny was weight drained when he got KTFO by singsurat, so if weight drain is a 'fallacy' did Manny lose that fight fair and square?

I did NOT say being weight drained is a fallacy, but being weight drained involves barely making weight at the last second, and cutting a huge amount of weight near fight night. Oscar fought Forbes just fine at 150, then he came down to 147 rather easily, he was on schedule the whole way to the weigh-in, and said himself he didn't have any problems with the weight. The problem was he tried to fight Manny in a more tactical style, they bet all their money that he was the better boxer, and that he would be quick enough if he came in light to catch Manny after that left hand or dictate the pace ala Marquez, but Oscar isn't going to be as fast as a very fast 130 pounder, and Manny didn't load up like he normally does on punches, he was in then used lateral movement, and Oscar could never get set to throw anything, Manny was always on his toes and everytime OScar tried to move in Manny was too quick and scurried out of his way.

[eagle]

This is a complete fallacy.... being "weight drained" is just a term used to basically say he had no stamina. It is not technical in terms of boxing nutrition. It was obvious that De La Hoya had a lack of stamina for his fight with Pacquiao.

IMO: Pacquiao originally setup Margarito as his target after Hatton, but since that fell through.... Cotto stepped into the #2 slot. When Mosley beat Margarito, Mosley had since murmured Pacquiao's name hoping to get a shot at that mega money. Since JMM defeated Diaz it put him back on the list. So provided Pacquiao comes away with the bigger half of the wishbone the list is like this:

#1 PBF
#2 MC
#3 SSM
#4 JMM

It all depends on the outcome of Hatton/Pacquiao, Cotto/Clottey and if PBF unretires. It's a toss up as to which is the bigger money draw with Marquez or Mosley. The primary reason Cotto is before SSM and JMM is Cotto is with Top Rank. How powerful is the mega money.......? I don't think we'll see either Mosley or Marquez line up another fight without knowing the fate of Pacquiao / Hatton and Pacquiao's next opponent.

I've heard a number of Pac fans say Manny was weight drained when he got KTFO by singsurat, so if weight drain is a 'fallacy' did Manny lose that fight fair and square?

I did NOT say being weight drained is a fallacy, but being weight drained involves barely making weight at the last second, and cutting a huge amount of weight near fight night. Oscar fought Forbes just fine at 150, then he came down to 147 rather easily, he was on schedule the whole way to the weigh-in, and said himself he didn't have any problems with the weight. The problem was he tried to fight Manny in a more tactical style, they bet all their money that he was the better boxer, and that he would be quick enough if he came in light to catch Manny after that left hand or dictate the pace ala Marquez, but Oscar isn't going to be as fast as a very fast 130 pounder, and Manny didn't load up like he normally does on punches, he was in then used lateral movement, and Oscar could never get set to throw anything, Manny was always on his toes and everytime OScar tried to move in Manny was too quick and scurried out of his way.

I know u didnt say it. Fan Johnny did. As if Oscar was anywhere near his best when he fought Manny.

[Hunter]

Pac needs to get by Hatton first which is no easy task..

Shane isnt a real big guy and pac seemed to take the additional weight well (seemed to carry his power and speed) for the ODLH fight so I dont think it is outrageous to think about Pac/Shane.....

We will have a better idea after the Hatton fight.....

[James_Teja]

Pac needs to get by Hatton first which is no easy task..

Shane isnt a real big guy and pac seemed to take the additional weight well (seemed to carry his power and speed) for the ODLH fight so I dont think it is outrageous to think about Pac/Shane.....

We will have a better idea after the Hatton fight.....

True.

[iwng100]

Pac needs to get by Hatton first which is no easy task..

Shane isnt a real big guy and pac seemed to take the additional weight well (seemed to carry his power and speed) for the ODLH fight so I dont think it is outrageous to think about Pac/Shane.....

We will have a better idea after the Hatton fight.....

True.

True x 2

[fan johnny]

Sure I see it happening.... Shane can go down to 145lbs. And if Pacquiao wins people will just say he likes to beat up senior citizens.

[James_Teja]

Sure I see it happening.... Shane can go down to 145lbs. And if Pacquiao wins people will just say he likes to beat up senior citizens.

...or Shane got affected by his divorce and the BALCO controversy.