Lot of hate for Froch

[Kev]

Very unfair imo, he just completed one of the best comebacks in boxing history right up there with Chavez Taylor, Coralles Castilo and Toney Nunn yet most people are just talking about how shit he was.

I don't recall anyone slating Andrade for losing virtually every round to Lucian Bute before almost stopping him.

He showed a great deal tonight, he's got the power to hurt anybody, clinical finishing instincts and he can overcome adversity and pick himself up off the floor to win.

Nobody can tell me that that wasn't the best Jermain Taylor in there tonight, he was in sensational shape and gave everything he had.

It gets tiring that everyone slates our British fighters. He did the business tonight, and showed that when his back is against the wall he can pull out something special to win.

Of all the other guys who people have said would beat him easily we cannot say that of them. Bute almost crumbled against his first real decent test and finished the fight unable to stand, Kessler when he stepped up to world class was beaten in a competitive but clear fashion to Joe Calzaghe, Pavlik got shown up against Bernard Hopkins, Andrade has twice failed in his step up fights but Froch has managed to pull off two great wins back to back and in exciting fashion.

He's the most entertaining 168 lber without a doubt and will learn a tremendous amount from this fight with Taylor.

For me along with Kessler he's the man to beat in the division. In fact none of the 168 lb guys have a win over a fighter more impressive than Jermain Taylor.

He's just made himself a star tonight, well done Carl Froch.

[Violent Demise]

Very unfair imo, he just completed one of the best comebacks in boxing history right up there with Chavez Taylor, Coralles Castilo and Toney Nunn yet most people are just talking about how shit he was.

I don't recall anyone slating Andrade for losing virtually every round to Lucian Bute before almost stopping him.

He showed a great deal tonight, he's got the power to hurt anybody, clinical finishing instincts and he can overcome adversity and pick himself up off the floor to win.

Nobody can tell me that that wasn't the best Jermain Taylor in there tonight, he was in sensational shape and gave everything he had.

It gets tiring that everyone slates our British fighters. He did the business tonight, and showed that when his back is against the wall he can pull out something special to win.

Of all the other guys who people have said would beat him easily we cannot say that of them. Bute almost crumbled against his first real decent test and finished the fight unable to stand, Kessler when he stepped up to world class was beaten in a competitive but clear fashion to Joe Calzaghe, Pavlik got shown up against Bernard Hopkins, Andrade has twice failed in his step up fights but Froch has managed to pull off two great wins back to back and in exciting fashion.

He's the most entertaining 168 lber without a doubt and will learn a tremendous amount from this fight with Taylor.

For me along with Kessler he's the man to beat in the division. In fact none of the 168 lb guys have a win over a fighter more impressive than Jermain Taylor.

He's just made himself a star tonight, well done Carl Froch.

That's cuz no one played up Andrade to be some unstoppable wrecking machine. Fraud was being build up a lot. Especially on this forum. Some of the UK posters and mods (smash) were saying Taylor didn't have a chance. That Fraud was going to wreck him. Fraud was said to have monster power. A granite chin. And overall good skills. I saw none of that. I saw great heart and courage. I'll give him that. But in reality he scored his knock out cuz of Taylor's weak stamina. How anybody can debate that, I have no idea

[awdleyfuturehalloffamer]

weak stamina meaning a hard straight right that hurt him real bad. He got caught, he was fighting well until he got caught. Stamina my ass.

[Gandalf]

I agree, Bilbo.

He stopped his opponent and in a non controversial manner. You can't beat that at the end of the day. We all know that Taylor can box and do it well when he is focussed. He won a good 10 rounds against BHop in 2 fights, he boxed well in spots against Winky. And he was able to win a fair few rounds against Pavlik in his 2 fights with him. Taylor is no mug and when he gets his jab going is a difficult opponent for anyone, until he falters that is.

Froch too had difficulties with him, and was way down after 6 rounds. But to be fair he persisted and began to catch Taylor more and more as the fight went on. Much like Hopkins and Pavlik in the first fight. And as the pressure was applied Taylor began to meltdown. Or was it becuase he gassed, either way it doesn't matter at the end of the day.

Froch needed the knockout and he got it. I say well done to Froch for getting it done in the end. I think Kessler is the man at 168, but he seems to be having issues staying active. I don't think Froch beats Kessler, but I give him a shot at most other fighters at 168. He needs to let the Calzaghe thing go, that's just becoming tiresome now.

[Majesty]

i don't think the hate for Froch is because he showed courage and guts and comeback power.

I just think the way he was hyped he is expected to take out Taylor early.

I like Froch more after this fight. But I'm not gonna proclaim him the next coming of superman. Because he isn't. What he is is a good fighter with great power. But he would lose against the likes of Kessler.

[Kev]

i don't think the hate for Froch is because he showed courage and guts and comeback power.

I just think the way he was hyped he is expected to take out Taylor early.

I like Froch more after this fight. But I'm not gonna proclaim him the next coming of superman. Because he isn't. What he is is a good fighter with great power. But he would lose against the likes of Kessler.

Hyped by who exactly, himself? The uk media are hardly hyping him not a single station wanted to pay for the rights to have the fight live. The only terrestrial showing is a replay screening on ITV tonight, that's shameful our only current world champ and nobody wanted to televise it, that pretty much shows that there wasn't a great deal of hype in the UK media for him.

In America they hadn't heard of him and I've been watching the previews on Showtime, they wern't hyping Froch at all it was all about the Resurrection of Jermain Taylor.

It annoys me when people claim a fighter is really hyped when in fact what you mean is a couple of people on here might have been saying things about him.

Of course he hypes himself but any decent boxer who wants earn money at the sport does.

He wasn't much hyped at all imo before this fight, but trust me he will be from now on

[Hunter]

Very unfair imo, he just completed one of the best comebacks in boxing history right up there with Chavez Taylor, Coralles Castilo and Toney Nunn yet most people are just talking about how shit he was.

I don't recall anyone slating Andrade for losing virtually every round to Lucian Bute before almost stopping him.

He showed a great deal tonight, he's got the power to hurt anybody, clinical finishing instincts and he can overcome adversity and pick himself up off the floor to win.

Nobody can tell me that that wasn't the best Jermain Taylor in there tonight, he was in sensational shape and gave everything he had.

It gets tiring that everyone slates our British fighters. He did the business tonight, and showed that when his back is against the wall he can pull out something special to win.

Of all the other guys who people have said would beat him easily we cannot say that of them. Bute almost crumbled against his first real decent test and finished the fight unable to stand, Kessler when he stepped up to world class was beaten in a competitive but clear fashion to Joe Calzaghe, Pavlik got shown up against Bernard Hopkins, Andrade has twice failed in his step up fights but Froch has managed to pull off two great wins back to back and in exciting fashion.

He's the most entertaining 168 lber without a doubt and will learn a tremendous amount from this fight with Taylor.

For me along with Kessler he's the man to beat in the division. In fact none of the 168 lb guys have a win over a fighter more impressive than Jermain Taylor.

He's just made himself a star tonight, well done Carl Froch.

That's cuz no one played up Andrade to be some unstoppable wrecking machine. Fraud was being build up a lot. Especially on this forum. Some of the UK posters and mods (smash) were saying Taylor didn't have a chance. That Fraud was going to wreck him. Fraud was said to have monster power. A granite chin. And overall good skills. I saw none of that. I saw great heart and courage. I'll give him that. But in reality he scored his knock out cuz of Taylor's weak stamina. How anybody can debate that, I have no idea

I agree - Taylor's stamina was what did him in.

Froch is a good fighter but he is no Calzaghe......Joe would have murdered Froch........I think Kessler and Andrade would beat him as well......

Taylor needs to work on his stamina, he definitely has the skill and power to beat Froch or even Kessler/Andrade but he needs to be able to box for 12 rounds.

[Kev]

Very unfair imo, he just completed one of the best comebacks in boxing history right up there with Chavez Taylor, Coralles Castilo and Toney Nunn yet most people are just talking about how shit he was.

I don't recall anyone slating Andrade for losing virtually every round to Lucian Bute before almost stopping him.

He showed a great deal tonight, he's got the power to hurt anybody, clinical finishing instincts and he can overcome adversity and pick himself up off the floor to win.

Nobody can tell me that that wasn't the best Jermain Taylor in there tonight, he was in sensational shape and gave everything he had.

It gets tiring that everyone slates our British fighters. He did the business tonight, and showed that when his back is against the wall he can pull out something special to win.

Of all the other guys who people have said would beat him easily we cannot say that of them. Bute almost crumbled against his first real decent test and finished the fight unable to stand, Kessler when he stepped up to world class was beaten in a competitive but clear fashion to Joe Calzaghe, Pavlik got shown up against Bernard Hopkins, Andrade has twice failed in his step up fights but Froch has managed to pull off two great wins back to back and in exciting fashion.

He's the most entertaining 168 lber without a doubt and will learn a tremendous amount from this fight with Taylor.

For me along with Kessler he's the man to beat in the division. In fact none of the 168 lb guys have a win over a fighter more impressive than Jermain Taylor.

He's just made himself a star tonight, well done Carl Froch.

That's cuz no one played up Andrade to be some unstoppable wrecking machine. Fraud was being build up a lot. Especially on this forum. Some of the UK posters and mods (smash) were saying Taylor didn't have a chance. That Fraud was going to wreck him. Fraud was said to have monster power. A granite chin. And overall good skills. I saw none of that. I saw great heart and courage. I'll give him that. But in reality he scored his knock out cuz of Taylor's weak stamina. How anybody can debate that, I have no idea

I agree - Taylor's stamina was what did him in.

Froch is a good fighter but he is no Calzaghe......Joe would have murdered Froch........I think Kessler and Andrade would beat him as well......

Taylor needs to work on his stamina, he definitely has the skill and power to beat Froch or even Kessler/Andrade but he needs to be able to box for 12 rounds.

Some people on here just have no clue seriously

You think its just a training mistake on behalf of Jermain Taylor and his team and that they are kicking themselves now that they didn't do more roadwork for this fight and his loss to Pavlik and previous close scrapes?

Taylor didn't lose because he wasn't in the best shape he can be he just got everything beaten out of him.

You're not the only person who has made this stupid statement to be fair but really think what you are saying. You think Taylor has two KO losses on his record now because his training team didn't realise the importance of proper conditioning?

[BoomBoom]

This was the first time ive seen a whole fight of his. I have nothing but respect for the guy. He came overseas to fight the favored and more popular guy, and pulled it out. Im not particularly impressed with his boxing ability. I think hes slow and predictable at times, but he makes up for it with heart, determintion, and a great chin. I think he should have made a few new fans last night. Fights like this are good for boxing. Would love to see him in with Bute or Green.

As for Taylor, I like him but he hasnt learned from his mistakes. Just like the Pavlik fight, he has his man in trouble early, lets him off the hook, and goes into survival mode late. I think Froch and Pavlik are tougher mentally that is the difference. Sucessful champions perform in the championship rounds. If Taylor had Frochs determination, hed probably be undefeated right now.

[ledsham]

Sick Of Hearing About Andrade Bute F**ked Him Up And Kessler Will Knock Him The F**k Out I Hope To See That Fight Soon.

[Deanrw]

Froch impressed me last night. He really poured it on in the end and showed the heart of a champion.

His style is kinda awkward and strange, but he came back from a terrible start and left with the belt he arrived with. This will be a great learning experience for him and by even taking on Taylor, shows he has great confidence.

I knew it was going to become a close fight last night when Taylor stopped throwing his right hand. I still think he hurt it in the early rounds somewhere as he totally abandoned it after having a ton of success with it.

Froch's big concern will be fighting someone with a lot of pop in their punch. Other than that his stamina alone will keep his competitive with the top guys over 12 rounds.

Froch is at least chasing after big fights at 168, which is more than what you can say about the other belt holders right now.

[Mar]

Sick Of Hearing About Andrade Bute F**ked Him Up And Kessler Will Knock Him The F**k Out I Hope To See That Fight Soon.

Look at the two at the end of the 12th how did you get ducked up with your opponet on his back if that red was there last night for taylor he would have won too mid as well fight margarito style for as fair as that fight was

[ledsham]

i agree bute almost got koed at the end but he won almost every round before that.and like i said taylor was ahead but froch steped it up when he needed too.and i say kessler would ko him and froch.

[TheMacMagician]

This was the first time ive seen a whole fight of his. I have nothing but respect for the guy. He came overseas to fight the favored and more popular guy, and pulled it out. Im not particularly impressed with his boxing ability. I think hes slow and predictable at times, but he makes up for it with heart, determintion, and a great chin. I think he should have made a few new fans last night. Fights like this are good for boxing. Would love to see him in with Bute or Green.

As for Taylor, I like him but he hasnt learned from his mistakes. Just like the Pavlik fight, he has his man in trouble early, lets him off the hook, and goes into survival mode late. I think Froch and Pavlik are tougher mentally that is the difference. Sucessful champions perform in the championship rounds. If Taylor had Frochs determination, hed probably be undefeated right now.

I think you made a sweet point there pal. Spot on...

[Big Dick Whittington]

People really have to look at Andrade closly!
He is tough ,fit and can punch but has anyone noticed his footwork is almost non existent .
Kessler boxed rings round him all night and Bute was effectivly shutting him out before getting chinned , Andrade is not a great fighter he is limited very limited and didn't shine for me at all against Kessler , being tough and game is one thing but that dont win you fights .

Froch - Andrade ? I'll back Froch to have the power and variation and instinct , he seems to find the answers and while alot of you will compare Andrade - Bute to last nights fight I'm still going with Froch .