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    Default Why people need to consider Marquez a threat for PBF

    PBF is undoubtedly my favorite fighter in boxing right now, and second ever next to RJJ, but this is why Marquez is a live threat.

    1. Speed: Sure Mayweather is super fast, but he is defensive first. Marquez is the second fastest guy he will have ever been in the ring with, and unlike Oscar or Judah when they fought Mayweather, he will throw back when he gets hit, and with astonishing accuracy.
    2. Output: We saw Marquez throw a ton of punches against Diaz, if Mayweather fights too defensively, we will see him unable to return fire against Marquez.
    3. Skill: Marquez is clearly the best fighter Mayweather has ever faced. He's not as technically skilled as Mayweather or as hard to hit, but he counters beautifully and makes up for his lack of defense in offensive skill, not only that but he also has a great chin, and I think its more than up to the task to withstand Mayweather's power.
    4. Sharpness: Mayweather has been out of the game for awhile, Marquez's greatest skill is how sharp he is, he jumps on every oppertunity with supreme confidence, this could be his downfall against the fast counter punching Mayweather, but if Mayweather comes in anything less than the sharpest he has ever been than he is in trouble.

    Mayweather gets caught up in his own skill, and doesn't really push to win rounds, while Marquez is a warrior who will do anything possible to win rounds and fights, that could be a huge factor in this fight. Mayweather could be doing great defensive work, but if he doesn't throw punches then he won't win rounds, and he will fight IMO differently in this fight in order to win. I think we could see a more exciting fight than most people are expecting.

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    Default Re: Why people need to consider Marquez a threat for PBF

    I think Mayweather might have enough juice on his punches to rattle Marquez. He's always been underrated in that regard, I think. I agree with everything else, though - JMM could possibly be the biggest test Floyd has had so far. Definitely a tough "warmup" fight!

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    Default Re: Why people need to consider Marquez a threat for PBF

    Some good points above...but i see this as an somewhat easy pre fight for floyd without fighting an all out bum. Marquez is a badass and brings a lot to the table but not as much as floyd. I mean he's fast but floyds faster, strong but floyds gonna be stronger, smart but floyds smarter so on and so forth. I think this is a somewhat decent test for floyd but belive me as money hungry as floyd is there is no way he would take a chance on missing out on a payday possibly the biggest of career by fighting someone he isn't 180 % sure he's gonna win. But he'll do his best to convice us there's a chance he can loose to get some change out of out ppv pockets. This fight is a excuse fest waiting to happen.
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    Default Re: Why people need to consider Marquez a threat for PBF

    You make the same points for Roy Jones against Calzaghe though, Roy still had the faster hands, better reflexes, much better cleaner punches. But there has to be something said for tenacity, and Marquez has way more of that then Mayweather. I mean Mayweahter is a warrior, he will take a punch to dish one out, I just think as he's gone up in weight he has gotten more and more gunshy, which he can't be against Marquez who IMO could be quick enough to capatilize on Mayweather's unwillingness to fight.

    Cotto didn't need to be as fast as Mosley to land at will on him, I know Mayweather is a completely different story, but Marquez has a lot more speed than other guys who have landed on Mayweather. Also I think Pacquiao hits considerably harder than Mayweather after the De La HOya and Hatton fight, and Marquez went down against Pacquiao but for hte most part was able to take Manny's punches. Granted I think part of that was that he didn't let Manny hit him at the perfect range very often which he won't be able to control the same way against Floyd. People forget Floyd sparring with Spadafora while he wasn't training, or when he fought Emmanuel Burton after 7 months off, I am just saying Floyd better get the best sparring partners in there. I think Amir Khan would be perfect, but Roach would likely never allow it.

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    Default Re: Why people need to consider Marquez a threat for PBF

    I see Marquez as a big threat to Mayweather. He is a really intelligent boxer who can adapt and WILL find a way to land his shots.

    He throws beautiful, awkward counters and although I don't think it will be a particularly exciting fight, I do think it will be an interesting one between 2 of the most intelligent 'boxers' out there.

    I mean he landed plenty on Pac and look at the speed difference there? I know Mayweather is better defensively but I do see it being an interesting one.

    Marquez' only disadvantage is the weight and his speed (which he turns into an advantage with his timing)

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    Default Re: Why people need to consider Marquez a threat for PBF

    I like JMM's chances agaisnt floyd. Mayweather is obviously the faster of the two, but as of late a one handed fighter it seems. The past few fights it seems like floyd has thrown out a nice jab but then retreats to his philidelphia shell style. With JMM's aggressivness and accurate counter punching, i think he's got an excellent shot. He's smart and picks up steam as the fight goes on. I dont think Mayweather is strong enough to put him away, I mean look what he took from diaz, "everything but the kitchen sink". I've kinda got a felling that Mayweather will be looking past JMM to Pacquiao because of his ego, and he better watch out because his opponet is one of the best in the world! Im gonna go out on a very small limb all by myself and say that JMM pulls out a victory to shock the world!

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    Default Re: Why people need to consider Marquez a threat for PBF

    I don't see Marquez beating Mayweather but I will so be pulling for him to do so. I believe Marquez can take advantage of Floyd in the early rounds while he tries to shake off the ring rust. Marquez has the tools and the skills to win this one, but how will his body react to fighting at 144?

    I want the Marquez win because it would only make a third fight with Manny that much bigger. Also on the other end, the storylines and hype for a Mayweather vs Pacquiao fight would be out of this world!! Either way, whoever wins this fight will be on route to the biggest fight this decade!!

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    Default Re: Why people need to consider Marquez a threat for PBF

    It'll be a competitive lopsided fight. Mayweather will win. But no way he knocks out Marquez

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    Default Re: Why people need to consider Marquez a threat for PBF

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    PBF is undoubtedly my favorite fighter in boxing right now, and second ever next to RJJ, but this is why Marquez is a live threat.

    1. Speed: Sure Mayweather is super fast, but he is defensive first. Marquez is the second fastest guy he will have ever been in the ring with, and unlike Oscar or Judah when they fought Mayweather, he will throw back when he gets hit, and with astonishing accuracy.
    2. Output: We saw Marquez throw a ton of punches against Diaz, if Mayweather fights too defensively, we will see him unable to return fire against Marquez.
    3. Skill: Marquez is clearly the best fighter Mayweather has ever faced. He's not as technically skilled as Mayweather or as hard to hit, but he counters beautifully and makes up for his lack of defense in offensive skill, not only that but he also has a great chin, and I think its more than up to the task to withstand Mayweather's power.
    4. Sharpness: Mayweather has been out of the game for awhile, Marquez's greatest skill is how sharp he is, he jumps on every oppertunity with supreme confidence, this could be his downfall against the fast counter punching Mayweather, but if Mayweather comes in anything less than the sharpest he has ever been than he is in trouble.

    Mayweather gets caught up in his own skill, and doesn't really push to win rounds, while Marquez is a warrior who will do anything possible to win rounds and fights, that could be a huge factor in this fight. Mayweather could be doing great defensive work, but if he doesn't throw punches then he won't win rounds, and he will fight IMO differently in this fight in order to win. I think we could see a more exciting fight than most people are expecting.
    You have very valid points, but here's why Marquez isn't as much of a threat as you think he is:

    1. Marquez is a notoriously slow starter. 3 knockdowns versus Pacquiao in their first fight. Juan Diaz pummeled him for 6 rounds before he came on. Mayweather is very ring intelligent and knows how to zoom in on someone's weakness.

    2. Marquez is fighting at his highest ever weight whereas Mayweather is coming down a few pounds. Unlike Oscar, going down won't be a problem for Mayweather. He only gains a few pounds in between fights and if you saw him in that commercial he stayed pretty shredded.

    3. Chin and power. Not Marquez's, Mayweather's. Both are very underrated because they are both under-utilized. Mayweather can take a shot if need be and when he cracked Hatton with that hook he hurt him. He was hurting Judah over the course of several rounds. Marquez has a great chin too, but we don't know if he can handle it from Floyd whereas Floyd has been hit by stronger fighters in Judah and De La Hoya.

    4. I hate to say it, but homecourt advantage. Mayweather is the more known fighter and there is every likelihood that given a close round judges might favor him.
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    Default Re: Why people need to consider Marquez a threat for PBF

    Marquez does have the ability to beat Floyd. Where so many others failed was by falling into Floyd's traps. They always let Floyd dictate the flow. Hatton and Oscar both did the same thing. Marquez is probably the smartest fighter in the ring today. His biggest obsticle will be coming out of the first 3 rounds unscathed. After that, he will be in the fight.

    If Marquez can withstand Floyd's precision punching, he just may be able to drag the fight deep enough and throw Floyd off with his own precision punching. It will not be easy but anything can happen. He just has to make sure he is the counter puncher in the fight and not Floyd and to also pick his spots to get aggressive.

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