Marquez Does Have A Few Things In His Favor

[BoomBoom]

First, I want to make it clear. I think Mayweather is too big for him and I think he sees JMM as a fight to make him look good in his return. I think Floyd will win, most likely by TKO, but don't be surprised if Marquez manages to pull out a hard-fought decision. Marquez has been active against top fighters who throw a lot of punches. He can keep a fast pace, even though he is getting up there in ring years. Im not so sure if Mayweather fight at a fast anymore. Also, JMM isnt going to be shocked by Mayweathers speed at 140. He fought faster fighters than Floyd and can deal with his speed. I dont think that will be an issue. One thing is for sure. Marquez can not be intimidated and he is confident, especially because he coming off some very big wins and a great performance against arguably the best fighter in the world. Seeing Pac have this much sucess at the higher weights can only help fuel his belief that he can beat a bigger opponent. Again, I see Mayweather winning, but an different outcome would not entirely surprise me either.

[Pavlik]

There's alot of things going for JMM IMO. His power is topnotch stopping both Casamayor and Juan Diaz. Chin and heart the only fighter that did not wilt against PAC. Counterpunching ability punished PAC for every mistake he made. In short JMM gave hell to our P4P Superhero He will probably give hell to PBF too.

[Pavlik]

By the way I'll be rooting for JMM on this one.

[spade]

By the way I'll be rooting for JMM on this one.

If Marquez wins, there will be no PAC-PBF, simply because the match wouldn't be appealing anymore

[VictorCharlie]

I think PBF wins a yawner. I think he does everything possible not to really engage with JMM just box and move ad nauseum on the way to an uneventful decision.

[LEGION]

I think PBF wins a yawner. I think he does everything possible not to really engage with JMM just box and move ad nauseum on the way to an uneventful decision.

That's kind of my exact toughts on this as well.

[XaduBoxer]

I consider this fight as a tune-up fight for PBF mainly due to fact that it's PBF's 1st fight after a year and a half in retirement, PBF will be the heavy favorite and PBF has all the advantages in this fight... PBF is expected to win this one...

Some intangibles tho goes to JMM like heart and fighting spirit...
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[CutMeMick]

I consider this fight as a tune-up fight for PBF

Just when I think your starting to become a bit more neutral and more of a fan of the sport itself and not just Pac or PI boxers you post this.

Any little way to take a stab at JMM and downgrade him from his stature.

Pac is #1 P4P and until he is beaten he will remain #1 isn't that enough now for Pac fans to be at ease and just move on and be a bit more neutral?

You would think right, but no. The initials JMM, or the name Marquez is such a big threat that any opp. to belittle him and push him away from Pacs P4P place is taken and pushed to the fullest.

JMM a tune up fight.
So in turn you are saying that if Pac faces SSM or Cotto they will be tune up fights for Pac?

Boxer (cause you really don't deserve to be called the 1st part of your name) you have for now fallen back into my troll list.

mainly due to fact that it's PBF's 1st fight after a year and a half in retirement, PBF will be the heavy favorite and PBF has all the advantages in this fight.

These things don't make a fight a tune up fight.
Curious to know where you got this info. from or could you go deeper into this as I would like to understand your brilliant boxing knowledge in regards to Tune Up fights.
I'm all ears whenever you are ready.
(You don't have to answer right away, you can think it through and if needed take a day or so to work out a reply)

[Taeth]

First, I want to make it clear. I think Mayweather is too big for him and I think he sees JMM as a fight to make him look good in his return. I think Floyd will win, most likely by TKO, but don't be surprised if Marquez manages to pull out a hard-fought decision. Marquez has been active against top fighters who throw a lot of punches. He can keep a fast pace, even though he is getting up there in ring years. Im not so sure if Mayweather fight at a fast anymore. Also, JMM isnt going to be shocked by Mayweathers speed at 140. He fought faster fighters than Floyd and can deal with his speed. I dont think that will be an issue. One thing is for sure. Marquez can not be intimidated and he is confident, especially because he coming off some very big wins and a great performance against arguably the best fighter in the world. Seeing Pac have this much sucess at the higher weights can only help fuel his belief that he can beat a bigger opponent. Again, I see Mayweather winning, but an different outcome would not entirely surprise me either.

Sorry who is faster than Floyd that he has foughten? Pacquiao is fast, but Mayweather is a little faster because he has the same handspeed, but he isn't out of position after he throws something, nor are there openings which IMO means he is taking speed off to maintain perfect coordination.

[Nameless]

I posted a topic more or less about these issues concerning the PBF and JMM fight, strangely, it get deleted, and I say strangely because it didn't contain anything scornful or vindicative. The thing that worries me about this fight is that I fear that the attraction of a potential PBF-PAcman will lure the judges to favor PBF for the rounds that might be tight, which would totally be unfair for a guy who's been overlooked and avoided as often as possible. Now, something that I would love to know (as I stated before in the deleted thread): What kind of ring size will they use and what kind of gloves? Winning gloves that will neutralize a part of JMM's strenght advantage to the profit of Floyd? An overzize ring that will allow PbF to dance anf to give as space as possible to avoid the fight or something more reasonable? Anybody has infos about these crucial details?

[Chino]

- 1st fight after a long layoff is usually considered a tune-up fight...

No, a tune up fight is vs a guy that has almost no possibility in winning at all. Remember David Diaz vs Pac? That is a tune-up fight. Floyd fighting the guy that "beat" Pac twice doesn't sound much like a tune-up to me.

PBF open up as a solid -380 favorite, it's almost a 4 to 1 favorite. You are a heavy favorite in your tune-up fight...

Are you saying that Hatton was a tune-up fight for Pac?

One thing is sure tho, PAC will always have at least 1 advantage over these boxers...

For you, many Filipinos, and PacFanBoys Pac will ALWAYS have more advantages vs ANYBODY who dares himself to get in the ring with Pac.

It's my principle not to totally write off a boxer... I've given Hatton 1% chance to defeat PAC

*deep sigh*

[XaduBoxer]

- 1st fight after a long layoff is usually considered a tune-up fight...

No, a tune up fight is vs a guy that has almost no possibility in winning at all. Remember David Diaz vs Pac? That is a tune-up fight. Floyd fighting the guy that "beat" Pac twice doesn't sound much like a tune-up to me.

Isn't it 1% chance same as "almost no possibility in winning" ??

PBF open up as a solid -380 favorite, it's almost a 4 to 1 favorite. You are a heavy favorite in your tune-up fight...

Are you saying that Hatton was a tune-up fight for Pac?

It's not a tune-up, PAC is only 3 to 1 favorite (started at 2 to 1) while PBF is a 4 to 1 favorite over JMM...

One thing is sure tho, PAC will always have at least 1 advantage over these boxers...

For you, many Filipinos, and PacFanBoys Pac will ALWAYS have more advantages vs ANYBODY who dares himself to get in the ring with Pac.

You're overblowing it... I only said at least 1 advantage and that advantage most probably be the speed...

It's my principle not to totally write off a boxer... I've given Hatton 1% chance to defeat PAC

*deep sigh*

Is it a sigh of relief??
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[Myk_Myk]

Sorry who is faster than Floyd that he has foughten? Pacquiao is fast, but Mayweather is a little faster because he has the same handspeed, but he isn't out of position after he throws something, nor are there openings which IMO means he is taking speed off to maintain perfect coordination.

I guess if anybody can step right back into form after over 1.5 years since their last fight, it will be PBF. Still historically, ring rust effects boxers who use their reflexes and skill, much more than power punchers. Then again, PBF enjoys the size advantage and JMM starts slow, so maybe that balances out in PBF's favor. Still, I think it's a possibility that PBF will try to do things that he used to be able to do, only to be slightly off. At this level, that's all it will take for JMM to capitalize.

I don't think JMM can outsmart, overpower, or outbox PBF... They're similar in style that mainly focuses on counterpunching... PBF is a faster, bigger and better version of JMM...

Other than both liking to counter punch how are they similar? I see them as totally different fighters. JMM is so very conventional, yet at an elite level, verses PBF's slick and improvisational, although still technically sound, style.

Now, something that I would love to know (as I stated before in the deleted thread): What kind of ring size will they use and what kind of gloves? Winning gloves that will neutralize a part of JMM's strenght advantage to the profit of Floyd?

How do you see JMM having the strength advantage?

I think if this fight was at 145 or higher and PBF hadn't had such a long lay off, PBF would just about be a complete no brainer to win. But that's not the case. I still favor him, but those factors in JMM's favor have to be taken into account.

[BoomBoom]

First, I want to make it clear. I think Mayweather is too big for him and I think he sees JMM as a fight to make him look good in his return. I think Floyd will win, most likely by TKO, but don't be surprised if Marquez manages to pull out a hard-fought decision. Marquez has been active against top fighters who throw a lot of punches. He can keep a fast pace, even though he is getting up there in ring years. Im not so sure if Mayweather fight at a fast anymore. Also, JMM isnt going to be shocked by Mayweathers speed at 140. He fought faster fighters than Floyd and can deal with his speed. I dont think that will be an issue. One thing is for sure. Marquez can not be intimidated and he is confident, especially because he coming off some very big wins and a great performance against arguably the best fighter in the world. Seeing Pac have this much sucess at the higher weights can only help fuel his belief that he can beat a bigger opponent. Again, I see Mayweather winning, but an different outcome would not entirely surprise me either.

Sorry who is faster than Floyd that he has foughten? Pacquiao is fast, but Mayweather is a little faster because he has the same handspeed, but he isn't out of position after he throws something, nor are there openings which IMO means he is taking speed off to maintain perfect coordination.

Floyd had fast hands no question. But, look at his speed at around the weight this fight will take place and look at the speed of some of Marquez opponents in the last couple years at the weight he has fought at in the not so long ago past. Pacman at 125, Pac at 130, Chris John at 125 all at least a fast as Floyd at 140-145 based on his recent performances. Even an old Casa had comparable speed to the Floyd of today. I know many people are gonna jump on me for saying this, but Floyd is nowhere near as fast as he once was, primarily because of the weight. And of course, p4p Floyd is much faster than John but thats not relevant. Floyd is fast for his weight. Pac is one of the only fighters ive seen maintain speed as he went up. But, this isnt about him so ill get back to the point. JMM can handle his speed. Its his power, size, and style that I worry about.