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    Default will JMM-Floyd live up to the hype??

    On paper it sounds like a fascinating contest. The warrior vs the technician, 2 established world greats in there own right.

    But cant help but have this nagging feeling that floyd is gonna spoil whenever possible and look to do as little as possible in the 1st 6 and hope to pick marquez off in the later rounds. JMM on the other hand could become terribly frustrated by this and look to try and rough floyd up in order to get a trade off and things could become rather ugly for a good few rounds!

    I dont envisage the diaz-marquez type war and can genuinely see potential flaws here...

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    Default Re: will JMM-Floyd live up to the hype??

    yup. the prospect of watching two natural counterpunchers wouldn't be too high on anyones list. If they want a W they're going to have to engage and JMM has been doing more of that of late which has made his stock go through the roof. Could be a stinker could be good.

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    Default Re: will JMM-Floyd live up to the hype??

    I don't see this fight as being a barn-burner.. How many PBF fights have you seen that are action packed?

    Especially with Floyd taking time off, i see him starting extra late in this fight.. I see a long "feeling out" process, at least 3-4 rounds before Floyd will start to open up a bit.. With that said Marquez will NEED to win those rounds to have a chance in winning a decision. Floyd gets into a rhythm after he adapts to his opponent, and besides Castillo, and pieces of the DLH fight, no one has been really able to steal too many rounds after this happens..

    The only way this fight will live up to the super competetive hype would be if marquez connects hard at some point.. giving floyd some sort of urgency to win rounds, but even then, i don't see floyd opening up to the point of desperation.. I'm still super excited for this fight and cannot wait to see Floyd back in the ring!!!!

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    Default Re: will JMM-Floyd live up to the hype??

    This fight smells the controversy from here, the hype of a PBF and Pacman is way too high, I am really worried it'll play against JMM in the judges mind. At least, Bad Bob Arum's not behind Floyd anymore and Goldenboy is straight behind JMM, so it might edge that possibility a bit but I deeply worry that the hype of a huge PPV screw something.
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    Default Re: will JMM-Floyd live up to the hype??

    I think it will, jmm is a great fighter, i just think he has way too many disadvantages in this fight. It just doesn't seem like it's on an even playing field from the begining. I feel the same way about all of floyds opponets at least right now, they all "can" beat floyd but none of them will. Floyd's biggest advantage has nothing to do with size or speed or power, it's how smart he is in the ring. We're all being set up my friends, but i will say i've always thought floyd will loose one day, when he starts fighting cause he has to not when he wants too so now maybe the time. We'll see i guess. So many other people i'd rather see him fight though. Someone his own size for starters or at the very least someone just as fast, jmm smaller and i think he'll still be a lot slower.
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    Default Re: will JMM-Floyd live up to the hype??

    Quote Originally Posted by Mar View Post
    I think it will, jmm is a great fighter, i just think he has way too many disadvantages in this fight. It just doesn't seem like it's on an even playing field from the begining. I feel the same way about all of floyds opponets at least right now, they all "can" beat floyd but none of them will. Floyd's biggest advantage has nothing to do with size or speed or power, it's how smart he is in the ring. We're all being set up my friends, but i will say i've always thought floyd will loose one day, when he starts fighting cause he has to not when he wants too so now maybe the time. We'll see i guess. So many other people i'd rather see him fight though. Someone his own size for starters or at the very least someone just as fast, jmm smaller and i think he'll still be a lot slower.
    One thing is for sure, JMM, will definately be pressing the fight. In an agressive, but smart fashion. Floyd on the other hand, will be Floyd like always. He will drop his left hand down, roll his shoulders, use every tiny inch of the ring, and he will bore us to death with his Ali like style. Id rather see a rematch with JMM and Pacquiao.
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    Default Re: will JMM-Floyd live up to the hype??

    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    This fight smells the controversy from here, the hype of a PBF and Pacman is way too high, I am really worried it'll play against JMM in the judges mind. At least, Bad Bob Arum's not behind Floyd anymore and Goldenboy is straight behind JMM, so it might edge that possibility a bit but I deeply worry that the hype of a huge PPV screw something.
    I think JMM will lose via wide UD in this boring tuneup fight... PBF can possibly jab his way to victory.... PBF (72") enjoys a 5" reach advantage over JMM (67")....

    History also showed JMM's style doesn't impress judges that much... JMM even cried that all his losses (John, PAC, etc.) were robberies and this only confirmed that JMM will not likely get the judges nod in a decision... JMM's style is boring also that of PBF... JMM/PBF were only in exciting fights if the opponent is a come forward exciting puncher boxer...

    All indications points to a technical chess match between 2 counterpunchers waiting on who will attack first... Could come out a boring fight...
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    Default Re: will JMM-Floyd live up to the hype??

    Before people start crying about Marquez getting gypped lets wait for this fight to actually happen.

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    Default Re: will JMM-Floyd live up to the hype??

    I really don't think there is very much hype to this fight. Considering that either one of these guys have an argument to #1 p4p status. It is basically a forgone conclusion that JMM is a tune up for Pac. Even the PBF haters say JMM is too small so most of them even concluded that PBF is the winner. Albeit via excuses such as JMM is too small. Pac just KOed a PBF size fighter and dominated one even bigger. But with PBF he is held to a ridiculously high standard that no one else is. Pac fought at welterweight but he never took on any of the bigger threats such as PWill, Cotto, Margarito, or Mosley but where is his criticism. Roach said that he will not let Pac fight at 147 again. If that was PBF that would be called cherrypicking. I congratulate Pac because he is very impressive in fighting bigger guys but PBF actually fights bigger guys every fight at 147 and 154 and many at 140. Now that he is finally the bigger fighter he is called everything in the book. Nobody remembers when PBF begged for a Mosley fight when Mosley was a fearsome lightweight knocking out everybody. Mosley denied the fight twice and skipped 2 weight classes for DLH. Was Hagler picking on a smaller Leonard? PBF would not be a bigger fighter picking on a smaller one if he was not ultra talented but the last attribute is never admitted by the anti-PBF crowd. If PBF is better in every boxing aspect then in order for that next guy to have a chance he must be bigger. So this fight is an outrage to people who want to see PBF lose. Let JMM have a say. Maybe we'll get an interesting fight.

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    Default Re: will JMM-Floyd live up to the hype??

    Is it just me or can't everyone see what a fraud Mayweather is being in picking a lighter weight fighter to fight at Welterweight, when there are better fights for him like Shane and Cotto and yet people are thinking this is a competitive fight. JMM has nothing to loose, Floyd is trying to big JMM up, saying he beat Manny Pac twice and so on but no mention of fighting real challengers. Floyd is a Joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Is it just me or can't everyone see what a fraud Mayweather is being in picking a lighter weight fighter to fight at Welterweight, when there are better fights for him like Shane and Cotto and yet people are thinking this is a competitive fight. JMM has nothing to loose, Floyd is trying to big JMM up, saying he beat Manny Pac twice and so on but no mention of fighting real challengers. Floyd is a Joke.
    Is it just me, or does everyone try to find some sort of nitpicky reason to hate on Mayweather?

    Floyd is a lighter weight fighter, he moved up all the way to 154 and won titles it doesnt make him a 154 pounder or a 147 pounder and he is fighting this fight probably around the 140 zone and the weight isn't gonna make a difference that much really, it's not like Mayweather is the kind of fighter who tries to impose his will on someone.

    It's that kind of thinking that "mayweather just beats guys because they are smaller" that got Hatton knocked out by Pacquiao, he felt he was untouchable at 140 because too many fans and people around him saying "you only lost because you fought at his weight" which isnt even Mayweather's weight
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    Default Re: will JMM-Floyd live up to the hype??

    Welter is Mayweathers weight and the fight is at that weight so for the so called best fighter p4p why not fight the best fighters and challengers at that weight.
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    Default Re: will JMM-Floyd live up to the hype??

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Welter is Mayweathers weight and the fight is at that weight so for the so called best fighter p4p why not fight the best fighters and challengers at that weight.
    Because when you are the best fighter you don't call people out, they call you out.

    Marquez called Mayweather out and Mayweather responded. And he intends to fight Pacquiao.

    You can dominate a weight division and get no credit whatsoever(example Klitschko in the heavyweights)

    And Mayweather was undisputed welterweight champ and got no credit because of the names he did not fight.

    Sometimes it's not about where you fight but also who you fight and at the time of their career. Fighting Marquez and Pacquiao would definately mean good for his p4p status. But as you've shown he wouldn't get any credit whatsoever.

    Who would he fight at 147? Berto is inexperienced, Cotto is fighting Clottey, Williams vacated his title and has moved up to around middleweight apparently, who is left for Mayweather to fight at Welterweight? Shane Mosley is the only other name.

    And yet if Mosley and Pacquiao fought no one would bash Mosley for fighting "the smaller guy" would they?

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    Default Re: will JMM-Floyd live up to the hype??

    Floyd will be too Good for Marquez in the end...I can't see this being anything more than PBF handing out a schooling...But I would love to be wrong!!

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    Default Re: will JMM-Floyd live up to the hype??

    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Welter is Mayweathers weight and the fight is at that weight so for the so called best fighter p4p why not fight the best fighters and challengers at that weight.


    And Mayweather was undisputed welterweight champ and got no credit because of the names he did not fight.

    Sometimes it's not about where you fight but also who you fight and at the time of their career. Fighting Marquez and Pacquiao would definately mean good for his p4p status. But as you've shown he wouldn't get any credit whatsoever.
    It's more like Mayweather was disputed WW champ and he deserves not to get any credit because he didn't fight PWill, Cotto, and Margarito.

    Pac is busy knocking out naturally bigger fighters, while Floyd is busy calling out naturally smaller fighters. Floyd should be ashame of himself.

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