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    Default Opinions and answers on this question..

    Why can Pacman fight a bigger man than shane (oscar) at shane's weight of 147, but not fight shane at shane's weight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather View Post
    Why can Pacman fight a bigger man than shane (oscar) at shane's weight of 147, but not fight shane at shane's weight?
    First and foremost 147 is not PAC's weight... He will be at disadvantage sizewise fighting at 147...

    The only reason I can think of is Shane's 2 wins over Oscar... Team PAC sees Shane as a bigger threat than Oscar... Fighting Shane at a catchweight below 147 will even the field for PAC...
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    Default Re: Opinions and answers on this question..

    I think it's obvious.

    Mosley is comfortable at 147 which would be unfair on Pacquaio the natural 140lber.

    Both fighters should meet inbetween like 144.

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    Default Re: Opinions and answers on this question..

    Pacs obviously scared of Shane.

    Let it begin........
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    Default Re: Opinions and answers on this question..

    Pac has listed Mosley as one of his possible opponents for October. If Pac's scared of Mosley, then what about Mayweahter Jr He hasn't even named Mosley as a possible opponent.

    As for the thread starter's question, I think its because Shane is more dangerous than Dela Hoya at this point in their career. Pac needs a few things going his way to get an even fight with Mosley, thus the catchweight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis View Post
    Pacs obviously scared of Shane.

    Let it begin........

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    People will jump through hoops to fight Oscar de la Hoya. Shane, not so much.

    Who else would Floyd have fought at 154 for? Daniel Santos?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather View Post
    Why can Pacman fight a bigger man than shane (oscar) at shane's weight of 147, but not fight shane at shane's weight?
    Personally, I think fuck the catchweight, the fight should happen at 147. If Pac wants to fight a Welter, he should do so at Welter. Catchweight fights aren't good for boxing, we have enough damn weightclasses to accomodate people as it is.

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    Quite simple really, Dela Hoya calls the shots when he is involved in the fight as you all know hes the cash cow, Mosley is not a huge money fight Pac is the main man in this fight and as people said Pac is not a 147 fighter so i dont see any problem pac getting as much as advantage as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather View Post
    Why can Pacman fight a bigger man than shane (oscar) at shane's weight of 147, but not fight shane at shane's weight?
    Personally, I think fuck the catchweight, the fight should happen at 147. If Pac wants to fight a Welter, he should do so at Welter. Catchweight fights aren't good for boxing, we have enough damn weightclasses to accomodate people as it is.
    hate catchweight fights too

    If the challenger wants to fight the champ then he has to meet him at his weight.

    Pavlik-Hopkins should in theory have been scheduled as a huge world title showdown

    instead it was just classified as a "170pound contest" something you would find in your local boxing club
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    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather View Post
    Why can Pacman fight a bigger man than shane (oscar) at shane's weight of 147, but not fight shane at shane's weight?
    Personally, I think fuck the catchweight, the fight should happen at 147. If Pac wants to fight a Welter, he should do so at Welter. Catchweight fights aren't good for boxing, we have enough damn weightclasses to accomodate people as it is.
    Totally agree. Catch weight is bollocks for "I don't believe I can actually fight at the required weight!".

    Manny should fight Bradley at 140 if he wants a fight and should wait and see where the money is. If 140 is what he wants then fair enough. Mosley at 147 is a good fight that many want though. Manny gets most of the money and another title. I don't see the issue.

    But Mosley hammers Pac quite easily. I want to see it for comic value above all else.

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    All this "if Pac wants to fight a welter" stuff ignores the simple fact that Pac is not chasing Mosley its the other way around. Mosley said he wanted a fight and a catchweight is fine. Everybody constantly talks about why should Mosley compromise his advantage by agreeing to a catchweight, why should Pacqauio give Mosley all the advantages by going up to welter? Hell Mosley's fought well at 154 ffs, Pacqauio's never fought above 142. This is silly.

    Not to mention Pacquaio's got tons of options, he doesn't really need Mosley.

    Exactly Skel, people take a fight with ODLH wherever they can get it, JMM would have jumped on that fight too if he had a chance.
    Last edited by OumaFan; 06-06-2009 at 04:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugilistic View Post
    I think it's obvious.

    Mosley is comfortable at 147 which would be unfair on Pacquaio the natural 140lber.

    Both fighters should meet inbetween like 144.
    Ergo why there's a catchweight! People keep saying keep the fight fair and fight at 147 in Shane's weightclass. How is that fair to Pac? He's at 140. I keep saying this over and over again 144-145 is the fairest.

    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather View Post
    Why can Pacman fight a bigger man than shane (oscar) at shane's weight of 147, but not fight shane at shane's weight?
    Personally, I think fuck the catchweight, the fight should happen at 147. If Pac wants to fight a Welter, he should do so at Welter. Catchweight fights aren't good for boxing, we have enough damn weightclasses to accomodate people as it is.
    Look at the other side of this statement: If Mosley wants to fight a juniorwelter, he should do so at junior welter. Pac is P4P #1, so it's Mosley chasing the fight. Pacquiao is the one that has to debate who to fight cause everyone wants to fight him.

    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather View Post
    Why can Pacman fight a bigger man than shane (oscar) at shane's weight of 147, but not fight shane at shane's weight?
    Personally, I think fuck the catchweight, the fight should happen at 147. If Pac wants to fight a Welter, he should do so at Welter. Catchweight fights aren't good for boxing, we have enough damn weightclasses to accomodate people as it is.
    hate catchweight fights too

    If the challenger wants to fight the champ then he has to meet him at his weight.

    Pavlik-Hopkins should in theory have been scheduled as a huge world title showdown

    instead it was just classified as a "170pound contest" something you would find in your local boxing club
    Pacquiao is P4P #1 and AND holds THE RING Championship. Mosley has an alphabet title. No Ring belt up for grabs if he fights for Shane's title.

    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    All this "if Pac wants to fight a welter" stuff ignores the simple fact that Pac is not chasing Mosley its the other way around. Mosley said he wanted a fight and a catchweight is fine. Everybody constantly talks about why should Mosley compromise his advantage by agreeing to a catchweight, why should Pacqauio give Mosley all the advantages by going up to welter? Hell Mosley's fought well at 154 ffs, Pacqauio's never fought above 142. This is silly.

    Not to mention Pacquaio's got tons of options, he doesn't really need Mosley.

    Exactly Skel, people take a fight with ODLH wherever they can get it, JMM would have jumped on that fight too if he had a chance.
    Just continuing on a point I made earlier. Pac has to choose from Cotto (if he wins next week), Mosley, the winner of Mayweather vs Marquez, Valero, and now Katsidis who are all openly seeking a fight with Pacquiao. Mosley is just trying to choose between who he wants to chase further, Pacquiao or Mayweather.

    Again, why does Manny have to keep moving up in weight to fight people? He was a junior lightweight last year!! If people want to fight him since he's on the top of the boxing world, they have to accomodate to him. His opponents don't have to agree to anything, THEY want the fight, not the other way around.

    He's already fought Barrera x2, Morales x3, Marquez x2, De La Hoya, Hatton, and he's looking to fight Cotto, Mosley, Mayweather, and Marquez again. Yet people are still trying to question his and his team's mindset. Who in boxing besides Shane are looking to fight the best like that?!
    Last edited by C-Lo; 06-06-2009 at 07:10 PM. Reason: forgot

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    Exactly. I know I'm biased towards Pacquaio but this debate has gone off the rails IMO. Totally one sided.

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