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    thats it...
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    Default Re: they robbed clottey

    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather View Post
    thats it...
    no robbery dude it was a close fight, i had Cotto winning 114-113, IMO without the cut it would have been a completely different fight, rematch wouldn't be out of the question, good fight though

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    Default Re: they robbed clottey

    I had it 115-112 for Clottey

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather View Post
    thats it...
    no robbery dude it was a close fight, i had Cotto winning 114-113, IMO without the cut it would have been a completely different fight, rematch wouldn't be out of the question, good fight though
    Exactly. The cut changed the whole complexion of the fight. Without it there would have been far less running from Cotto, who simply couldn't see the punches coming.

    Cotto edged it, Clottey gave it away when he should have been trying to dominate the end. He didn't do enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather View Post
    thats it...
    no robbery dude it was a close fight, i had Cotto winning 114-113, IMO without the cut it would have been a completely different fight, rematch wouldn't be out of the question, good fight though

    Exactly. The cut changed the whole complexion of the fight.
    Without it there would have been far less running from Cotto, who simply couldn't see the punches coming.

    Cotto edged it, Clottey gave it away when he should have been trying to dominate the end. He didn't do enough.
    And Clottey getting thrown down and hurting his knee didn't change anything
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    Not nearly as much. The only round that it looked maybe it had an effect was the sixth (and who knows what's going through Clottey's head, he's a strange dude) and like they said Clottey's not a footwork fighter. On the other hand Cotto seemed to clearly have a problem seeing the right for about ten rounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    Not nearly as much. The only round that it looked maybe it had an effect was the sixth (and who knows what's going through Clottey's head, he's a strange dude) and like they said Clottey's not a footwork fighter. On the other hand Cotto seemed to clearly have a problem seeing the right for about ten rounds.

    Clottey isn't a footwork fighter no, but he throws a great left hook and a good jab, without your left leg to plant that they aren't gonna be very effective.

    Notice how Clottey's left hook and jab disappeared after he was thrown down?
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    Default Re: they robbed clottey

    It was a great fight and honestly could have gone either way but I felt Cotto shaded it.

    I think Kellerman summed it up perfectly when he said Clottey was the better fighter, Cotto the better man.

    For me it was Cotto who displayed the heart of a champion, coming back from adversity without complaint, and winning the championship rounds, or the 12th at least, and getting the decisive knockdown.

    Clottey for all his talent for me doesn't have a champions heart. He gave a performance Christiano Ronaldo would have been proud of when he fell and hurt his knee and then rather pathetically tried to get a point deduction from Cotto claiming a back of the head injury in the final round.

    Cotto could have pulled out after 5 or 6 rounds and won on points due to the accidental cut but instead he displayed a champion's courage and won the fight over 12 rounds.

    I have no doubt had the roles been reversed Clottey would have been out of there in 6 and got a technical win, he just seems to exaggerate all his injuries and injustices and in such situations, when a fight is has close as this I'd always hope they give it to the fighter who fought like a real man, which was Cotto tonight.

    It was similar in a way to the Winky Taylor fight, Clottey like Wright had the fight going into the 12th but with victory within his grasp he took his foot off the pedal and didn't give his all. He can moan and bitch but ultimately the loss was his own doing.

    I do agree that 116-111 was far too wide though, only a point or 2 either way in this one.

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    Default Re: they robbed clottey

    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
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    no robbery dude it was a close fight, i had Cotto winning 114-113, IMO without the cut it would have been a completely different fight, rematch wouldn't be out of the question, good fight though

    Exactly. The cut changed the whole complexion of the fight.
    Without it there would have been far less running from Cotto, who simply couldn't see the punches coming.

    Cotto edged it, Clottey gave it away when he should have been trying to dominate the end. He didn't do enough.
    And Clottey getting thrown down and hurting his knee didn't change anything
    It only had a noticable effect for one round and afterwards his movement was fine. He didn't mention it too much after the fight either. Cotto had to go most of the fight with impaired vision. I think the latter had more of a bearing on the fight overall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
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    Exactly. The cut changed the whole complexion of the fight.
    Without it there would have been far less running from Cotto, who simply couldn't see the punches coming.

    Cotto edged it, Clottey gave it away when he should have been trying to dominate the end. He didn't do enough.
    And Clottey getting thrown down and hurting his knee didn't change anything
    It only had a noticable effect for one round and afterwards his movement was fine. He didn't mention it too much after the fight either. Cotto had to go most of the fight with impaired vision. I think the latter had more of a bearing on the fight overall.
    It looked like it did. But after Clottey was thrown down when did he throw his left hook or his jab as consistantly as he had before being thrown down? You need your front foot to throw the left hook and the jab effectively, it disappeared after he was thrown down and it was his jab and left hook that was setting up his offense.

    So it may have looked like it didnt effect him only because he wasn't grimmacing in pain every second, but it obviously effected him because he rarely if ever jabbed or threw his left hook after, he was trying to combo and leap forward and load up with his right, didn't set up his shots anymore after he hurt his knee, so it DID effect him
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    no robbery dude it was a close fight, i had Cotto winning 114-113, IMO without the cut it would have been a completely different fight, rematch wouldn't be out of the question, good fight though

    Exactly. The cut changed the whole complexion of the fight.
    Without it there would have been far less running from Cotto, who simply couldn't see the punches coming.

    Cotto edged it, Clottey gave it away when he should have been trying to dominate the end. He didn't do enough.
    And Clottey getting thrown down and hurting his knee didn't change anything
    watch the replay, Clottey was desperately trying to clinch and was half way on Cotto's back, there's no need for that

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather View Post
    thats it...
    116-111 pretty much means Cotto didn't even need the last rounds to win the fight. Pretty much in the bag even if Clottey had finished strong.
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    Default Re: they robbed clottey

    Clottey robbed himself.

    Anybody with two eyes could see 116-111 was wacko.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    Clottey robbed himself.

    Anybody with two eyes could see 116-111 was wacko.
    this.

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    Default Re: they robbed clottey

    It was a close fight. I have to watch it again to score it fairly. I didn't know who was gonna get the decision and wouldn't have complained if it went either way.

    Clottey landed more punches, but fights are judge round by round. A ton of punches in one round wins the round but his lack of output in other rounds and especially the championship rounds didn't help him.

    Cotto on the other hand did a lot of running. I know the blood in the eye didn't help, but he needed to try to land harder punches by luring Clottely into exchanges.

    I want to see a rematch. Both guys put on a good show but I was hoping that one or other would look more dominant.
    Last edited by belakbox; 06-14-2009 at 03:08 AM. Reason: didn't make sense

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