Roy Jones against the world

[paddy448]

ok so weve just seen him dominate lacy, no big surprise. u have have to admit his speed and skill set is still up their with the best in boxing. alot of people are calling him shot, but im one of the people giving him the benefit of the doubt after his knockout losses with johnson and tarver, also his points loss too calzaghe.what im sayin is how would he do against the ring champs from 168 up to heavy weight, im going with kessler as the number 1 at 168, then hopkins at lightheavy, adamek at cruiser, then wlad klitschko at heavy.i still genuine believe theirs another chapter too be writen in the roy jones story. even if u give him no chance against the ring champs,what do u think about him against the other weaker champs.

[Nameless]

He has some juice for a few other good fights but it would be pure madness to think that he can beat the Ukrainian brothers and the other few good monsters of the HW division if you ask me, I would like to see him firstto try, if he doesn't want to retire (which I would like, Jones being one of my all time favorite fighters) the other good light heavyweights first.

[paddy448]

He has some juice for a few other good fights but it would be pure madness to think that he can beat the Ukrainian brothers and the other few good monsters of the HW division if you ask me, I would like to see him firstto try, if he doesn't want to retire (which I would like, Jones being one of my all time favorite fighters) the other good light heavyweights first.

i dont think he would beat the kilschkos today(back in the day tho who nos), but anyone below that down the divisions i give him a chance, call me crazy but i still seriously rate him. hes in my top five of all time still regardless, yeah i no people have got better resumes on there shoulders but based on prime for prime talent and pure skill jones is anywhere from number 1 to 5 all time, sorry haters but he was that good

[Kev]

He has some juice for a few other good fights but it would be pure madness to think that he can beat the Ukrainian brothers and the other few good monsters of the HW division if you ask me, I would like to see him firstto try, if he doesn't want to retire (which I would like, Jones being one of my all time favorite fighters) the other good light heavyweights first.

i dont think he would beat the kilschkos today(back in the day tho who nos), but anyone below that down the divisions i give him a chance, call me crazy but i still seriously rate him. hes in my top five of all time still regardless, yeah i no people have got better resumes on there shoulders but based on prime for prime talent and pure skill jones is anywhere from number 1 to 5 all time, sorry haters but he was that good

You are clearly joking.

Jones would be a big underdog against any top fighter.

Pavlik, Abraham, Dawson, Froch, Bute, Kessler, even Pascal.

Jones has looked great against very carefully handpicked opponents. Sheika and Lacy were completely shot, Anthony Hanshaw was an ok fighter but clearly not a top fighter, neither was Prince Badi Ajamu.

Give Jones somebody slow and predicatable, who has little left in the tank and he will still look great, give him someone young, hungry, in their fighting prime and with ambition to actually win and he'll be dominated all over again.

Danny Green is a great opponent for him, I think it's a legitimate fight against a very solid opponent who is still dangerous, but whose skills are basic enough that Roy can still outbox him, although its not a gimme fight by any means.

He won't beat the likes of Pavlik, Kessler, Taylor, Abraham etc.

After Green the best fight for him would probably be B Hop, Hop's lack of activity and slow pace would make for a fight more winnable for Jones than fighting a young hungry fighter who actually wants to do him physical harm.

He lost virtually every single round apart from the first with Joe Calzaghe and got absolutely dominated, he was exhausted and showed he had little left in his fights with Antonio Tarver.

Since then all he has done is got older. If he steps up again he loses.

[paddy448]

He has some juice for a few other good fights but it would be pure madness to think that he can beat the Ukrainian brothers and the other few good monsters of the HW division if you ask me, I would like to see him firstto try, if he doesn't want to retire (which I would like, Jones being one of my all time favorite fighters) the other good light heavyweights first.

i dont think he would beat the kilschkos today(back in the day tho who nos), but anyone below that down the divisions i give him a chance, call me crazy but i still seriously rate him. hes in my top five of all time still regardless, yeah i no people have got better resumes on there shoulders but based on prime for prime talent and pure skill jones is anywhere from number 1 to 5 all time, sorry haters but he was that good

You are clearly joking.

Jones would be a big underdog against any top fighter.

Pavlik, Abraham, Dawson, Froch, Bute, Kessler, even Pascal.

Jones has looked great against very carefully handpicked opponents. Sheika and Lacy were completely shot, Anthony Hanshaw was an ok fighter but clearly not a top fighter, neither was Prince Badi Ajamu.

Give Jones somebody slow and predicatable, who has little left in the tank and he will still look great, give him someone young, hungry, in their fighting prime and with ambition to actually win and he'll be dominated all over again.

Danny Green is a great opponent for him, I think it's a legitimate fight against a very solid opponent who is still dangerous, but whose skills are basic enough that Roy can still outbox him, although its not a gimme fight by any means.

He won't beat the likes of Pavlik, Kessler, Taylor, Abraham etc.

After Green the best fight for him would probably be B Hop, Hop's lack of activity and slow pace would make for a fight more winnable for Jones than fighting a young hungry fighter who actually wants to do him physical harm.

He lost virtually every single round apart from the first with Joe Calzaghe and got absolutely dominated, he was exhausted and showed he had little left in his fights with Antonio Tarver.

Since then all he has done is got older. If he steps up again he loses.

im sorry to say bilbo but i aint jokin, you say he wont beat the likes of pavlik, kessler, taylor,abraham etc, but say hes got a better shot at beating hopkins is crazy, with all due respect, out of anyone out of them u mentioned hopkins is maybe his toughest fight, plus kessler of corse, he i think he would beat pavlik worse than hopkins did imo, maybe i am crazy, but i still seroiusly rate jones

[Kev]

i dont think he would beat the kilschkos today(back in the day tho who nos), but anyone below that down the divisions i give him a chance, call me crazy but i still seriously rate him. hes in my top five of all time still regardless, yeah i no people have got better resumes on there shoulders but based on prime for prime talent and pure skill jones is anywhere from number 1 to 5 all time, sorry haters but he was that good

You are clearly joking.

Jones would be a big underdog against any top fighter.

Pavlik, Abraham, Dawson, Froch, Bute, Kessler, even Pascal.

Jones has looked great against very carefully handpicked opponents. Sheika and Lacy were completely shot, Anthony Hanshaw was an ok fighter but clearly not a top fighter, neither was Prince Badi Ajamu.

Give Jones somebody slow and predicatable, who has little left in the tank and he will still look great, give him someone young, hungry, in their fighting prime and with ambition to actually win and he'll be dominated all over again.

Danny Green is a great opponent for him, I think it's a legitimate fight against a very solid opponent who is still dangerous, but whose skills are basic enough that Roy can still outbox him, although its not a gimme fight by any means.

He won't beat the likes of Pavlik, Kessler, Taylor, Abraham etc.

After Green the best fight for him would probably be B Hop, Hop's lack of activity and slow pace would make for a fight more winnable for Jones than fighting a young hungry fighter who actually wants to do him physical harm.

He lost virtually every single round apart from the first with Joe Calzaghe and got absolutely dominated, he was exhausted and showed he had little left in his fights with Antonio Tarver.

Since then all he has done is got older. If he steps up again he loses.

im sorry to say bilbo but i aint jokin, you say he wont beat the likes of pavlik, kessler, taylor,abraham etc, but say hes got a better shot at beating hopkins is crazy, with all due respect, out of anyone out of them u mentioned hopkins is maybe his toughest fight, plus kessler of corse, he i think he would beat pavlik worse than hopkins did imo, maybe i am crazy, but i still seroiusly rate jones

Ok let me explain.

The reason he has a better chance against Hopkins is because Hopkins isn't a fast, physical fighter the way a Pavlik is, or a Kessler or Dawson.

Hopkins would fight at a pace that Jones could cope with and that's why he would have a better chance against him than against Pavlik. Hopkins vs Jones is a battle of boxing skill, rather physicality and endurance.

I have no doubt Jones could outbox Pavlik all night long, but Pavlik wouldn't be looking to win on boxing skill. His relentless aggression and power would test the 40 year old's legs, stamina, punch resistance etc

Jones is clearly leaps and bounds above Pavlik in terms of boxing skill and prime for prime would box his head of.

But Pavliks sub 26 year old legs and energy tank vs Jones over 40 legs and tank is a whole different matter.

Jones has been knocked out brutally twice and we have seen countless times in the sport that when your punch resistance goes it never comes back.

Jones could start well against Pavlik but the longer the fight went on he'd likely get more and more worn out, like he did against Calzaghe.

Pavlik would likely dominate the late rounds and probably stop him.

Hopkins on the other hand is even older than Jones and so the fight isn't going to be as hard fought. We saw how much Hopkins tired against Calzaghe, twice taking long breaks on phony low blows and looking for ways to get a breather.

That's why Jones has better chance against Hopkins than he does against Pavlik.