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    Default If Marquez wins, is it the biggest victory ever by a Mexican fighter?

    Lots of great Mexican fighters over the years. Sanchez, Chavez, Lopez, Morales, Barrera, etc.

    But has any Mexican fighter ever beaten a fighter of Mayweather's caliber? I say no. Chavez failed in his chance against Whitaker. Sanchez beat Azumah Nelson, but at a time when Nelson was very young and unknown. Morales beat Pacquiao, but at a time when Pacquiao wasn't considered an all-time great like he is now.

    So, would it be the biggest win ever by a Mexican fighter?

    Discuss.

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    Default Re: If Marquez wins, is it the biggest victory ever by a Mexican fighter?

    No.

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    Default Re: If Marquez wins, is it the biggest victory ever by a Mexican fighter?

    It's hard to argue against Chavez/Taylor and the fact that Mayweather is off a 2 year layoff would be used almost immediately to discredit Marquez' win. But if you look at what this would mean that he went 24 even with Pacquiao and then beat Mayweather, yeah that would be a pretty big deal and I would go with Yes, it's the biggest win.

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    Default Re: If Marquez wins, is it the biggest victory ever by a Mexican fighter?

    I would say YES... beating an undefeated 39-0 6 different weight division champ who has beaten legends. Rated p4p 1 by most even though he has not fought in almost 2 years. Then beating him when you are coming up in weight and a huge underdog. After being on a national televised series.. I would say hell yeah.. huge accomplishment for any race lol
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    Default Re: If Marquez wins, is it the biggest victory ever by a Mexican fighter?

    no.


    And salvador sanchez biggest victory wasn't against Nelson but Gomez.

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    Default Re: If Marquez wins, is it the biggest victory ever by a Mexican fighter?

    To the people saying no, im curious to know why? Very few if any boxers have accomplish what mayweather has
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    Default Re: If Marquez wins, is it the biggest victory ever by a Mexican fighter?

    Quote Originally Posted by purtyboy View Post
    I would say YES... beating an undefeated 39-0 6 different weight division champ who has beaten legends. Rated p4p 1 by most even though he has not fought in almost 2 years. Then beating him when you are coming up in weight and a huge underdog. After being on a national televised series.. I would say hell yeah.. huge accomplishment for any race lol
    ummm Mayweather only has titles in 5 divisions not 6

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    Default Re: If Marquez wins, is it the biggest victory ever by a Mexican fighter?

    No,not for me.He may have every disadvantage on paper but it would propose that Mayweather is a frigging demi-god.All of the trinkets aside,Marquez is not just a Mexican fighter,he's an all time great and an equal ring general!

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    Default Re: If Marquez wins, is it the biggest victory ever by a Mexican fighter?

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by purtyboy View Post
    I would say YES... beating an undefeated 39-0 6 different weight division champ who has beaten legends. Rated p4p 1 by most even though he has not fought in almost 2 years. Then beating him when you are coming up in weight and a huge underdog. After being on a national televised series.. I would say hell yeah.. huge accomplishment for any race lol
    ummm Mayweather only has titles in 5 divisions not 6
    Yeah we all make typos... 6 belts in 5 different divisions i got that confused... that is still 4 more divisions then gomez, and 5 MORE belts.
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    Default Re: If Marquez wins, is it the biggest victory ever by a Mexican fighter?

    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea View Post
    Lots of great Mexican fighters over the years. Sanchez, Chavez, Lopez, Morales, Barrera, etc.

    But has any Mexican fighter ever beaten a fighter of Mayweather's caliber? I say no. Chavez failed in his chance against Whitaker. Sanchez beat Azumah Nelson, but at a time when Nelson was very young and unknown. Morales beat Pacquiao, but at a time when Pacquiao wasn't considered an all-time great like he is now.

    So, would it be the biggest win ever by a Mexican fighter?

    Discuss.
    First & foremost…let’s address the obvious…this is going to be one of those questions/posts that could go either way & back & forth…just like my bwoy CuteMick!


    That being said in wacko’s humble opinion, & putting favorites aside, the logical answer is Julio Cesar Chavez. Hands down he’s got to be in an all timer’s list but hands down he’s for sure on top of Mexico's best fighters of all time. When you start asking me about favorites period…the list get’s a little shakey & even more questionable.


    Personally…my favorites list starts with Juan Manuel Marquez just on his finesse, persona, & abilities. I’ve long been a supporter of Erik Moralles…but dropping him offa the page Marquez is top dog for me. Truly I consider him the greatest Mexican boxer of the decade…maybe the last two…but that’s just me. Many others name & call out Marco Antonio Barrera…& I can see that…maybe even side with it…but at the end of the day it’s Marquez for me.


    Now…as for my favorite fighter of all time…that’s Hopkins & Mayweather…anyone who remembers all my insistent ramblings knows that.


    That being said…I love the fact that Mayweather’s back…but I’d also love to see the guard get shaken to it's core.
    It'd be nice to see it pan out like this : Marquez beats Mayweather by TKO, Cotto beats Pacquiao by KO, immeidiate Marquez/Mayweather rematch in which Mayweather wins, Marquez then wrestles Pacquiao to another insane draw close to Pac's favor, Mayweather defeats Cotto, Mosley rolls in to war with Pacquiao & wins, Cotto then faces Marquez & loses in a fire fight, Mayweather then faces & defeats Paul Williams, Mayweather & Mosley swing to a draw, & then Floyd retires…for good. The door's then wide open for Shane to come in & take Floyd's mantle by handling all the names above.


    That’s what I want.


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    Default Re: If Marquez wins, is it the biggest victory ever by a Mexican fighter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wacko3205 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea View Post
    Lots of great Mexican fighters over the years. Sanchez, Chavez, Lopez, Morales, Barrera, etc.

    But has any Mexican fighter ever beaten a fighter of Mayweather's caliber? I say no. Chavez failed in his chance against Whitaker. Sanchez beat Azumah Nelson, but at a time when Nelson was very young and unknown. Morales beat Pacquiao, but at a time when Pacquiao wasn't considered an all-time great like he is now.

    So, would it be the biggest win ever by a Mexican fighter?

    Discuss.
    First & foremost…let’s address the obvious…this is going to be one of those questions/posts that could go either way & back & forth…just like my bwoy CuteMick!


    That being said in wacko’s humble opinion, & putting favorites aside, the logical answer is Julio Cesar Chavez. Hands down he’s got to be in an all timer’s list but hands down he’s for sure on top of Mexico's best fighters of all time. When you start asking me about favorites period…the list get’s a little shakey & even more questionable.


    Personally…my favorites list starts with Juan Manuel Marquez just on his finesse, persona, & abilities. I’ve long been a supporter of Erik Moralles…but dropping him offa the page Marquez is top dog for me. Truly I consider him the greatest Mexican boxer of the decade…maybe the last two…but that’s just me. Many others name & call out Marco Antonio Barrera…& I can see that…maybe even side with it…but at the end of the day it’s Marquez for me.


    Now…as for my favorite fighter of all time…that’s Hopkins & Mayweather…anyone who remembers all my insistent ramblings knows that.


    That being said…I love the fact that Mayweather’s back…but I’d also love to see the guard get shaken to it's core.
    It'd be nice to see it pan out like this : Marquez beats Mayweather by TKO, Cotto beats Pacquiao by KO, immeidiate Marquez/Mayweather rematch in which Mayweather wins, Marquez then wrestles Pacquiao to another insane draw close to Pac's favor, Mayweather defeats Cotto, Mosley rolls in to war with Pacquiao & wins, Cotto then faces Marquez & loses in a fire fight, Mayweather then faces & defeats Paul Williams, Mayweather & Mosley swing to a draw, & then Floyd retires…for good. The door's then wide open for Shane to come in & take Floyd's mantle by handling all the names above.


    That’s what I want.


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    Default Re: If Marquez wins, is it the biggest victory ever by a Mexican fighter?

    Quote Originally Posted by snakey View Post
    Ok this thread is now over, it has just turned into "Wacko is alive" thread
    Heh heh heh.

    Indeed...Wacko is still suckin' air.

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    woah, a Wacko sighting

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    now if we could just get Trainer Monkey back

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    Default Re: If Marquez wins, is it the biggest victory ever by a Mexican fighter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wacko3205 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by snakey View Post
    Ok this thread is now over, it has just turned into "Wacko is alive" thread
    Heh heh heh.

    Indeed...Wacko is still suckin' air.

    Good to be back...I'll be in & out as often as possible, my bwoyo's.

    Glad to see that everyone is still here...& there.
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