Roach rips Floyds performance

[Tysonbruno]

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I don't agree with Roach saying it won't be equal pay and Mayweather needs them more than they need him i think they need eachother equally now to prove to the fans who is P4P#1. This should be a 50/50 purse and just get on with it for the fans boxers are turning in to bloody Divas and Manny has to get by Cotto first.

[Tysonbruno]

And if its true about Floyd vs Marquez doing 1.6 million ppv perhaps Roach and Arum are wrong and Pacquiao isnt the bigger draw if Pacquiao beats Cotto just do 50/50 and make the fight.

[Hoggmeister]

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I don't agree with Roach saying it won't be equal pay and Mayweather needs them more than they need him i think they need eachother equally now to prove to the fans who is P4P#1. This should be a 50/50 purse and just get on with it for the fans boxers are turning in to bloody Divas and Manny has to get by Cotto first.

I agree with that 100% mate.

[Nameless]

Forget it, you will never have 1.6 millions ppv, it is just mere propaganda to foster the interest in a future match with Floyd, even the ressort where the fight happened was around 80% Pro-Marquez; They had to postponed the fight to the mexican celebration because there was not enough tickets sold or ppv sold, it is very unlikely that all of a sudden within a month, these amounts would have doubled.
I am not really a Pacquiao fan but seriously, you can't even compare one second the drag-in that Pacman drags compared to Mayweather, we will have the answer soon but this 1.6 million number comes from Kevin Iole from Yahoo and as far as I'Ve read it, nobody else is backing up such amount yet and most of the specialists are expecting between 300 to 500k maximum

[generalbulldog]

Forget it, you will never have 1.6 millions ppv, it is just mere propaganda to foster the interest in a future match with Floyd, even the ressort where the fight happened was around 80% Pro-Marquez; They had to postponed the fight to the mexican celebration because there was not enough tickets sold or ppv sold, it is very unlikely that all of a sudden within a month, these amounts would have doubled.
I am not really a Pacquiao fan but seriously, you can't even compare one second the drag-in that Pacman drags compared to Mayweather, we will have the answer soon but this 1.6 million number comes from Kevin Iole from Yahoo and as far as I'Ve read it, nobody else is backing up such amount yet and most of the specialists are expecting between 300 to 500k maximum

De la Hoya-Trinidad did 1.4 million ppv and that was a massive fight, mind you it may have been 10 years ago but nowhere does the Floyd-Marquez fight surpasses that. I'm still waiting for a credible source on the fight's ppv numbers.

[Dizaster]

I wouldn't disagree with it being 50/50... There are other fights out there for Pac if he beats Cotto.. But Roach says "He needs us, we don't need him", well i'd say that a fight with Mayweather and a chance to beat him would cement Pac's legacy is everyone's eyes including ANY boxing expert...

You listen to any one of Mayweathers fights, and every commentator gives him so much respect. It's almost impossible not to be in awe of what he can do to otherwise class A fighters... If Pac gets past Cotto, he should go into the Mayweather negotiation table thinking about the fact he has more to earn from this fight than just money... I agree Pac is the drawcard, but the respect for beating Mayweather is what Mayweather holds the key to...

Fights like that shouldn't be missed because of money negotiations.. I think it's the fight that everyone would want including the fighters, and either should be happy with 50/50..... Arum will want his boy Pac to kick Floyd's ass, so I think 50/50 will be fine in the end regardless of what Roach says...

[Nameless]

I wouldn't disagree with it being 50/50... There are other fights out there for Pac if he beats Cotto.. But Roach says "He needs us, we don't need him", well i'd say that a fight with Mayweather and a chance to beat him would cement Pac's legacy is everyone's eyes including ANY boxing expert...

You listen to any one of Mayweathers fights, and every commentator gives him so much respect. It's almost impossible not to be in awe of what he can do to otherwise class A fighters... If Pac gets past Cotto, he should go into the Mayweather negotiation table thinking about the fact he has more to earn from this fight than just money... I agree Pac is the drawcard, but the respect for beating Mayweather is what Mayweather holds the key to...

Fights like that shouldn't be missed because of money negotiations.. I think it's the fight that everyone would want including the fighters, and either should be happy with 50/50..... Arum will want his boy Pac to kick Floyd's ass, so I think 50/50 will be fine in the end regardless of what Roach says...

50-50 I would disagree personally, we could go close to a deal like that (example 48-52) but 50-50 seems a bit over rated for someone who doesn't get a big audience like Floyd. Anyway, if I would be Roach, my concern would be: what weight do they want to go and how to make sure that the episode with Marquez won't happen again when Floyd outscaled by a good 2 pounds.

[fan johnny]

Forget it, you will never have 1.6 millions ppv, it is just mere propaganda to foster the interest in a future match with Floyd, even the ressort where the fight happened was around 80% Pro-Marquez; They had to postponed the fight to the mexican celebration because there was not enough tickets sold or ppv sold, it is very unlikely that all of a sudden within a month, these amounts would have doubled.
I am not really a Pacquiao fan but seriously, you can't even compare one second the drag-in that Pacman drags compared to Mayweather, we will have the answer soon but this 1.6 million number comes from Kevin Iole from Yahoo and as far as I'Ve read it, nobody else is backing up such amount yet and most of the specialists are expecting between 300 to 500k maximum

I actually think the PPV watch is having a negative affect right now......

I disagree with Roach's perspective. It's not weather or not Pacquiao needs Mayweather or Mayweather needs Pacquiao. Certainly if they don't face each other it's a missed opportunity for both of them to make money, but I see it as boxing can use them both. For boxing to have intrigue, it needs the good, the bad but not the ugly.

So why not the ugly, because ugly is a turn off.

[Taeth]

I honestly don't think Roach wants Pacquiao to fight Mayweather, he knows what will happen.

[mnmc10]

cotto will be pacs last opponent then thats it. he will run for congress here in manila. i doubt if pac will fight again after cotto win or lose.

[Mar]

Roach is funny on this one....floyd in his first fight after two years didn't Ko marquez, but no one will question who actually "beat" marquez. I for one say scoreboard and manny won case closed. I just think that was a silly point for him to bring up when he whoooped marquez in the first six rounds more than pac did in two fights. Floyd like the kitch's can be boring if you watch boxing with mma type expections for results, but as far as actual boxing which this sport is watching the chess matches are just as fun as the Ko's. Not klitch's or floyds fault for the lack of the ability of thier opponets to make these guys work in the ring. What's easier to grab a bag of cash just laying on the ground or a bag of cash surrounded by opponets punches. All these guys at this level now-a-days are taking the easiest fight for the biggest payday.....but only some get flack for it. Legacy don't pay bills, i don't blame em.

[stebs]

I honestly don't think Roach wants Pacquiao to fight Mayweather, he knows what will happen.

I agree with you, I don't think this fight ever happens and they will use money and weight to discard it. if you listen to Roach he's already setting it up so it never happens. He says ho hum to Floyds win and he blew it in negotiations by not knocking out Marquez. If Manny wins against Cotto and becomes a welter champ I don't see how they could use weight as an issue though.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

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I don't agree with Roach saying it won't be equal pay and Mayweather needs them more than they need him i think they need eachother equally now to prove to the fans who is P4P#1. This should be a 50/50 purse and just get on with it for the fans boxers are turning in to bloody Divas and Manny has to get by Cotto first.

I agree with Roaches assessment of the fight and also with his thoughts on Floyd. I also agree that Floyd is not the guy that puts asses in the seats for the most part... It is almost always his opponants. Anybody would be hard pressed to say otherwise... In addition, many of the people that buy the figth on Floyd's part are buying to see him lose, not win.

I do agree that this should be a 50/50 fight, though. Although I have my misgivings with Floyd, Manny's camp needs to see that a 50/50 fight is the only way to make it happen, even 55/45, Floyd would bawk at. Floyd is a truely great boxer but has dilusions of grandeur as far as his drawing power.

[Althugz]

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I don't agree with Roach saying it won't be equal pay and Mayweather needs them more than they need him i think they need eachother equally now to prove to the fans who is P4P#1. This should be a 50/50 purse and just get on with it for the fans boxers are turning in to bloody Divas and Manny has to get by Cotto first.

I agree with Roaches assessment of the fight and also with his thoughts on Floyd. I also agree that Floyd is not the guy that puts asses in the seats for the most part... It is almost always his opponants. Anybody would be hard pressed to say otherwise... In addition, many of the people that buy the figth on Floyd's part are buying to see him lose, not win.

I do agree that this should be a 50/50 fight, though. Although I have my misgivings with Floyd, Manny's camp needs to see that a 50/50 fight is the only way to make it happen, even 55/45, Floyd would bawk at. Floyd is a truely great boxer but has dilusions of grandeur as far as his drawing power.

Pride, I'm interested to know why you still feel that Mayweather isn't a draw when his bouts with Oscar drew 2.4 million and his bout with Hatton drew 900k buys?

If we compare Pacquaio's numbers, they are 1.2 million with Oscar and 825k with Hatton?

Why do you think this is, if it is Floyds opponents that are the draw?

Surely, if Pacquaio was more of a draw the numbers against his opponents who were also draws, should have dwarfed the figures that Mayweather achieved with same opponents?

I know you say people tune in to see Floyd lose but even if this was the case, it still equates to him being a draw regardless of why the fans tune in, right?

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Roach rips Floyd performance | Fightnews - Boxing News Updated 24/7


I don't agree with Roach saying it won't be equal pay and Mayweather needs them more than they need him i think they need eachother equally now to prove to the fans who is P4P#1. This should be a 50/50 purse and just get on with it for the fans boxers are turning in to bloody Divas and Manny has to get by Cotto first.

I agree with Roaches assessment of the fight and also with his thoughts on Floyd. I also agree that Floyd is not the guy that puts asses in the seats for the most part... It is almost always his opponants. Anybody would be hard pressed to say otherwise... In addition, many of the people that buy the figth on Floyd's part are buying to see him lose, not win.

I do agree that this should be a 50/50 fight, though. Although I have my misgivings with Floyd, Manny's camp needs to see that a 50/50 fight is the only way to make it happen, even 55/45, Floyd would bawk at. Floyd is a truely great boxer but has dilusions of grandeur as far as his drawing power.

Surely, if Pacquaio was more of a draw the numbers against his opponents who were also draws, should have dwarfed the figures that Mayweather achieved with same opponents?

I know you say people tune in to see Floyd lose but even if this was the case, it still equates to him being a draw regardless of why the fans tune in, right?

Their opponants were not the "P4P champion"... Are you seriously telling me you think it's Mayweather that sold any of the above mentioned fights?

C'mon... Floyd's mouth draws more then his fist do...

I am not a Floyd hater, I'm just saying...

Do I think Floyd is probably one of the most gifted defensive fighters of all time? Yes... But so was Sweet Pea.