What More could Dirrell Have done

[The Boxer]

Ok the obvious answer is KO Froch but seriouly what more could the man have done.

1.He made Froch miss and miss badly at times.
2.Used the ring effectivley
3.Landed the cleaner shots.
4.Not sure of the punch stats but to me it appeared that Dirrel landed more shots.
5. He hurt Froch.
6. He clearly frustrated Froch. This is indicated by the body slam and rabbit punches.

SO WHAT MORE DO PEOPLE WANT FROM DIRREl?

[OumaFan]

I thought he won clearly but are you being serious? He could have just done more. Period. He spent too much time grabbing and not enough punching. He was on the road and he had at least one judge that was bought or somehow influenced (the guy that scored the 11th for Froch, I mean come on that's just corruption, there's no other explanation) and at times he did just enough to win rounds when sometimes you have to know that you have to do more than that, don't leave any questions, don't let an incompetent judge say yeah but Froch was coming forward. It was a bit Clottey-esque.

[awdleyfuturehalloffamer]

i agree that any judge that scored the 11th for froch is either blind, retarded or just plain corrupt. But Dirrell has to throw and land punches to win a fight. he could have picked froch apart round after round if he chose to fight and i thought he could have ko'd froch the way he was tagging him in the 11th. Dirrell gave everyone with good eyes the impression he didn't want to fight for most of the rounds. Froch was slower than molasses but at least he looked like he wanted to fight.

[J_Undisputed]

Dirrell could have taken a more combatative approach. Not saying he had to be agressive, but he had the speed and reach to catch Front coming in. With his speed, and the fact that Froch carrying his hands low often, he could have dropped inside lead hooks all day and slip the counters with his eyes closed.
Floyd and Pac did it to Hatton... Jones jr. did it gonzalez and countless other sluggers. Niether of them is considered the agressive brawling type. Dirrell chose to use his feet and stupid grin, more than he did his hands because he doesn't like being in range to get hit. Then again niether did Ali or Lewis, so they used their reach and footwork to keep their opponents under control in the center of the ring. Sure they clinched or moved to avoid the rush and swarm tactics, but after that it was back to business as usual. Dirrell fought like a fighter that didn't have enough pop to put his opponent away (even though he did) so he rather run his way to a stinker of a victory than putting his speed or combinations to use going for an accumulation of puches because it presented too much of a risk.

[JonnyFolds]

I don't care how well you use the ring. I don't care how badly you make him miss. IF the opponent is determined enough, unscathed, and still landing shots then you can't rely on squeeking by.

Make no mistake. I thought Dirrel won.

I think this early loss in Dirrell's career is going to help him BIG in the long run. I didn't see a guy who was discouraged, angry, beaten, or disheartened. I saw him instantly say "I'm gonna hit the gym". This could prove to be Direll's greatest triumph to date.

When he realized (come the 10th round) the ref wasn't cutting him any slack for holding all the time... He went to plan B. He landed bombs on Froch and moved even more effectively. Dirrell is going to move at a much faster pace his next fight. Mark my words. And God help Froch when they meet again!

[Pugilistic]

Dirrell should of fought the fight like he did in the later rounds.

To be honest though, even though he fought a negative fight , he still landed way more and got robbed.

[The Boxer]

It's easy to say now that he should of did what he did at the end of the fight the whole fight because he didn't get KOed. Before the fight most thought that would have been the quickest way for him to get KOed.

Everybody thought it best for dirrel to box move and stay away from the ropes. Not be the aggressor.

[JazMerkin]

I thought he won clearly but are you being serious? He could have just done more. Period. He spent too much time grabbing and not enough punching. He was on the road and he had at least one judge that was bought or somehow influenced (the guy that scored the 11th for Froch, I mean come on that's just corruption, there's no other explanation) and at times he did just enough to win rounds when sometimes you have to know that you have to do more than that, don't leave any questions, don't let an incompetent judge say yeah but Froch was coming forward. It was a bit Clottey-esque.

This. I thought Dirrell won comfortably, but if he'd just put the effort he put into the last 2 1/2 rounds into the rest of the fight, no one would be able to dispute it & he might well have KO'd Froch (although I'm convinced the European judges would have still found a way to give it to Froch).

[Violent Demise]

It doesn't matter what Dirrell did. He was never going to win. The fix was in from the start

[Fenster]

I thought he won clearly but are you being serious? He could have just done more. Period. He spent too much time grabbing and not enough punching. He was on the road and he had at least one judge that was bought or somehow influenced (the guy that scored the 11th for Froch, I mean come on that's just corruption, there's no other explanation) and at times he did just enough to win rounds when sometimes you have to know that you have to do more than that, don't leave any questions, don't let an incompetent judge say yeah but Froch was coming forward. It was a bit Clottey-esque.

This. I thought Dirrell won comfortably, but if he'd just put the effort he put into the last 2 1/2 rounds into the rest of the fight, no one would be able to dispute it & he might well have KO'd Froch (although I'm convinced the European judges would have still found a way to give it to Froch).

The Belgian judge Daniel Van de Wiele recently scored against Witter costing him his "world" title on a Hennessy promotion.

So you think Mick made sure he gave him enough dough this time?

[JazMerkin]

I thought he won clearly but are you being serious? He could have just done more. Period. He spent too much time grabbing and not enough punching. He was on the road and he had at least one judge that was bought or somehow influenced (the guy that scored the 11th for Froch, I mean come on that's just corruption, there's no other explanation) and at times he did just enough to win rounds when sometimes you have to know that you have to do more than that, don't leave any questions, don't let an incompetent judge say yeah but Froch was coming forward. It was a bit Clottey-esque.

This. I thought Dirrell won comfortably, but if he'd just put the effort he put into the last 2 1/2 rounds into the rest of the fight, no one would be able to dispute it & he might well have KO'd Froch (although I'm convinced the European judges would have still found a way to give it to Froch).

The Belgian judge Daniel Van de Wiele recently scored against Witter costing him his "world" title on a Hennessy promotion.

So you think Mick made sure he gave him enough dough this time?

Yes I do

That fight was far wider than the scorecards suggested, interesting how both Barrovecchio & Van de Wiele have been on a number of Hennessy cards though

We also know which of Witter & Froch are worth more, especially in Nottingham.

Don't get me wrong, I think if Gary Shaw had significant clout in Europe, they'd happily swing it his way. But he doesn't, so Hennessy's boys get the breaks. Same as Golden Boy & Top Rank fighters often getting favourable scorecards when against fighters without major promoters. Berto might as well leave if the fight with Mosley in January is at all close because he ain't getting that decision against a GBP fighter in the States.

[SEANIE]

Ok the obvious answer is KO Froch but seriouly what more could the man have done.

1.He made Froch miss and miss badly at times.
2.Used the ring effectivley
3.Landed the cleaner shots.
4.Not sure of the punch stats but to me it appeared that Dirrel landed more shots.
5. He hurt Froch.
6. He clearly frustrated Froch. This is indicated by the body slam and rabbit punches.

SO WHAT MORE DO PEOPLE WANT FROM DIRREl?

He could have fought like a man and not a big girls blouse. If you were from Showtime you would regret putting him in the tournament as he's going to stink the joint out everytime he boxes.

[The Boxer]

Ok the obvious answer is KO Froch but seriouly what more could the man have done.

1.He made Froch miss and miss badly at times.
2.Used the ring effectivley
3.Landed the cleaner shots.
4.Not sure of the punch stats but to me it appeared that Dirrel landed more shots.
5. He hurt Froch.
6. He clearly frustrated Froch. This is indicated by the body slam and rabbit punches.

SO WHAT MORE DO PEOPLE WANT FROM DIRREl?

He could have fought like a man and not a big girls blouse. If you were from Showtime you would regret putting him in the tournament as he's going to stink the joint out everytime he boxes.

Save silly comments like that for the hidden forum.

[Fenster]

Well he does have a point.

If Dirrell hadn't kept moaning, holding and collapsing to the floor and moaning and holding, he would have probably got the decision.

He gave off the aura of a losing man.

[HattonTheHammer]

A- Not run around like a headless chicken for 12rounds
B- Stayed on his feet for more than 30 seconds
C- Stopped bitching to the ref everytime froch roughed him up
D- Actually engage in a boxing contest rather than fob everyone off for 12rounds and look to get a decision on points
E- Win more than the 4 clear rounds he only one
F- Actually win the fight which he clearly didnt!!

1st time i scored it........well i didnt i was too drunk
2nd time i had it 114-113 froch
3rd and 4th time viewing it i had it 115-112 froch on both occasions


dirrell lost, the better all round fighter won, stop bitching and look forward to seeing him take another beating once abraham gets hold of him!