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    Default this is why pacquaio wants specifc test dates

    http://www.doghouseboxing.com/DHB/Kim122509.html

    great article from victor conte the former head of BALCO, iv mentioned EPO in a few of my posts and it seems he agrees that this a big possibility with pac and explains a little on how the tests can be decieved if the fighters knows when they are set for

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    Default Re: this is why pacquaio wants specifc test dates

    Good article, although the link is down. Here's the article:
    Conte Weighs In

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    Default Re: this is why pacquaio wants specifc test dates

    Does boxing have their own banned substance list or do they just follow the World Anti-Doping Agency list? If it's the latter, doesn't that throw into question the results of all pro boxing matches in recent history?

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    Default Re: this is why pacquaio wants specifc test dates

    Quote Originally Posted by sky_set_fire View Post
    Does boxing have their own banned substance list or do they just follow the World Anti-Doping Agency list? If it's the latter, doesn't that throw into question the results of all pro boxing matches in recent history?
    well i think its slightly different with different commisions and what not, i did read somewere that apparently it is very confusing as to what is legal and what isnt ,also there is no doubt stuff that was ok to use 10 years ago but now isnt

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    Default Re: this is why pacquaio wants specifc test dates

    Very good job of Conte simplifying this. The problem is that most of boxing and other sports are very ignorant to how easy announced testing is to beat. And how worthless urine tests are. Even Timothy Bradley thinks the urine tests, which aren't even random at that, that boxing commission do are proving cleanliness of drugs. Considering what team Pac is saying and requesting with the tests it makes Pac sound like an educated steroid user.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blegit View Post
    Very good job of Conte simplifying this. The problem is that most of boxing and other sports are very ignorant to how easy announced testing is to beat. And how worthless urine tests are. Even Timothy Bradley thinks the urine tests, which aren't even random at that, that boxing commission do are proving cleanliness of drugs. Considering what team Pac is saying and requesting with the tests it makes Pac sound like an educated steroid user.
    the bradley thing makes me slightly suspiscious, i cant understand why one fighter would give the benefit of the doubt to another considering the nature of the sport,

    bradley used to be an amatuer bodybuilder prior to becoming a pro boxer, surley he would be at least a little clued up on this

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    Default Re: this is why pacquaio wants specifc test dates

    Blood test at random might mean they mmay take pac's blood 2 days before the actual weigh in weakening him somewhat. This allegations started when dopehead sr. started this and every jealous motherfucker rode the tide. Believe then, as it was easy for you people to believe in the lochness monster. Pac was tested with urine tests before, he was negative. So is a lot of great fighters out there. Why don't they test jmm too, coz he came from 122 before but ko'ed juan diaz at 135, something that suico or katsidis failed to do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by blegit View Post
    Very good job of Conte simplifying this. The problem is that most of boxing and other sports are very ignorant to how easy announced testing is to beat. And how worthless urine tests are. Even Timothy Bradley thinks the urine tests, which aren't even random at that, that boxing commission do are proving cleanliness of drugs. Considering what team Pac is saying and requesting with the tests it makes Pac sound like an educated steroid user.
    the bradley thing makes me slightly suspiscious, i cant understand why one fighter would give the benefit of the doubt to another considering the nature of the sport,

    bradley used to be an amatuer bodybuilder prior to becoming a pro boxer, surley he would be at least a little clued up on this
    I didn't know Bradley use to be an amateur bodybuilder. He looks the role though. Knowing that he is definitely playing ignorant than. I was getting into bodybuilder but I have yet to compete in a show yet. The reason being is that I have found that almost every competitor I know in the bodybuilder field is juicing. Its not even kept very secretive. I have never used any steroid but just about everybody I know in gym does. And the bodybuilders talk about it freely as a foregone conclusion that if you expect to compete then you have to juice. I'm not going to say Bradley was or is on anything but if he was an amateur bodybuilder than he definitely knows urine tests are laughable and prove next to nothing.

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    Default Re: this is why pacquaio wants specifc test dates

    As nothing else is yet to be proven, don't believe on this shitty hype brought by crackhead predator sr. All of you would just make fools out of yourselves, believe me. Pac was proven negative before so why doubt him? Why do all of you easily buy a crack head's tale? He might be in some induced state when he said this.

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    why dismiss it totally?

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    Default Re: this is why pacquaio wants specifc test dates

    I don't. But why some of you believe it totally?

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    Default Re: this is why pacquaio wants specifc test dates

    an expert in this field has said that the current testing methods used are inadequete so the face he hasnt tested positive yet proves very little

    also using childish names like crackhead predator sr reflects worse on you than it does on him

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    Default Re: this is why pacquaio wants specifc test dates

    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
    an expert in this field has said that the current testing methods used are inadequete so the face he hasnt tested positive yet proves very little

    also using childish names like crackhead predator sr reflects worse on you than it does on him
    Then call me takamarijuana toker if you want.

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    Default Re: this is why pacquaio wants specifc test dates

    ill pass..... im not a child as you seem to be

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    Default Re: this is why pacquaio wants specifc test dates

    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    As nothing else is yet to be proven, don't believe on this shitty hype brought by crackhead predator sr. All of you would just make fools out of yourselves, believe me. Pac was proven negative before so why doubt him? Why do all of you easily buy a crack head's tale? He might be in some induced state when he said this.
    Lots of athletes have passed tests before and later been caught...

    Do you have any idea how easy it is to mask or cycle PED if you know the tests and dates for them?

    Just because he has passed a test before it doesn't prove a thing.

    That being said, Pac is innocent until proven guilty... but I don't see how even a fanboy such as your self cannot cast suspicion on Pac based on how he has dealt with this so far.

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