Atlas says reliable sources confirm Manny is juiced

[Nameless]

1) The first asked if the fight could happen and what would be the penalties if PAcquiao was tested positive.

2) Second asked if it was possible to keep it secret for the sake of boxing if Pacquiao was proven positive.


I hope for him that it's true otherwise, here comes the lawsuit but indeed, this is getting quite interesting...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cHRG...ayer_embedded#at 2:00, Atlas states that some reliable sources of him told him that the Pacquiao Clan wrote 2 mails to the Mayweather's camp.

[Gandalf]

I'm glad that Atlas took the stance he did. The whole "I will not be dictated to argument" is weak to say the least. A two week window is ideal. Roach said himself that Manny doesn't feel comfortable for 3 days after taking blood. Well Mayweather has offered 2 entire weeks. And Pacs camp decline it? Hmm.

I'm not sure how reliable these emails are that Atlas is talking about, but even without emails and added scandal, Pacquiao still looks highly suspicious. The fight is available, Mayweather has said that he wants to fight. What are we waiting for? Oh right, Manny is worried about a blood test! I was watching that dicumentary "Supersize me" the other day. The guy was getting blood tests practically everyday without a bother. What is Manny's excuse? He's like a little kid, "Mummy. Don't let them touch my blood! Wa wa wa".

It seems to me that Pac really must be juicing or else simply doesn't want to fight Mayweather.

[Nameless]

I'm glad that Atlas took the stance he did. The whole "I will not be dictated to argument" is weak to say the least. A two week window is ideal. Roach said himself that Manny doesn't feel comfortable for 3 days after taking blood. Well Mayweather has offered 2 entire weeks. And Pacs camp decline it? Hmm.

I'm not sure how reliable these emails are that Atlas is talking about, but even without emails and added scandal, Pacquiao still looks highly suspicious. The fight is available, Mayweather has said that he wants to fight. What are we waiting for? Oh right, Manny is worried about a blood test! I was watching that dicumentary "Supersize me" the other day. The guy was getting blood tests practically everyday without a bother. What is Manny's excuse? He's like a little kid, "Mummy. Don't let them touch my blood! Wa wa wa".

It seems to me that Pac really must be juicing or else simply doesn't want to fight Mayweather.

Yeah I pretty much agree, it's very hard to state how his sources are reliable but it seems like there is a bit more smoke than what it used to have, I don't know but if I was Atlas, I wouldn't make such comment with a very high certitude, especially now that some lawsuits have been engaged. let's see how it pans out and definitely, 2 weeks window is more than acceptable in the circumstances.

[Gandalf]

I'm glad that Atlas took the stance he did. The whole "I will not be dictated to argument" is weak to say the least. A two week window is ideal. Roach said himself that Manny doesn't feel comfortable for 3 days after taking blood. Well Mayweather has offered 2 entire weeks. And Pacs camp decline it? Hmm.

I'm not sure how reliable these emails are that Atlas is talking about, but even without emails and added scandal, Pacquiao still looks highly suspicious. The fight is available, Mayweather has said that he wants to fight. What are we waiting for? Oh right, Manny is worried about a blood test! I was watching that dicumentary "Supersize me" the other day. The guy was getting blood tests practically everyday without a bother. What is Manny's excuse? He's like a little kid, "Mummy. Don't let them touch my blood! Wa wa wa".

It seems to me that Pac really must be juicing or else simply doesn't want to fight Mayweather.

Yeah I pretty much agree, it's very hard to state how his sources are reliable but it seems like there is a bit more smoke than what it used to have, I don't know but if I was Atlas, I wouldn't make such comment with a very high certitude, especially now that some lawsuits have been engaged. let's see how it pans out and definitely, 2 weeks window is more than acceptable in the circumstances.

If those emails exist and Atlas is convinced that his source is reliable then fair play to Atlas on speaking out. If that is not the case, then it probably wasn't so smart. But I like Atlas and like to think he wasn't plucking information out of thin air. Apart from the emails which I really don't know about, I thought he argued his case well. Why not just take the tests and fight? That is just what we are all asking and Atlas seems to be on the same page too.

[Snakey]

I'm glad that Atlas took the stance he did. The whole "I will not be dictated to argument" is weak to say the least. A two week window is ideal. Roach said himself that Manny doesn't feel comfortable for 3 days after taking blood. Well Mayweather has offered 2 entire weeks. And Pacs camp decline it? Hmm.

I'm not sure how reliable these emails are that Atlas is talking about, but even without emails and added scandal, Pacquiao still looks highly suspicious. The fight is available, Mayweather has said that he wants to fight. What are we waiting for? Oh right, Manny is worried about a blood test! I was watching that dicumentary "Supersize me" the other day. The guy was getting blood tests practically everyday without a bother. What is Manny's excuse? He's like a little kid, "Mummy. Don't let them touch my blood! Wa wa wa".

It seems to me that Pac really must be juicing or else simply doesn't want to fight Mayweather.

Yeah I pretty much agree, it's very hard to state how his sources are reliable but it seems like there is a bit more smoke than what it used to have, I don't know but if I was Atlas, I wouldn't make such comment with a very high certitude, especially now that some lawsuits have been engaged. let's see how it pans out and definitely, 2 weeks window is more than acceptable in the circumstances.

Well i dont think hes that liable because he says hes not claiming manny is dirty and that he has someone telling him that they saw emails. He is not claimed to have seen them himself, hes only saying what someone else told him.

[Gandalf]

I'm glad that Atlas took the stance he did. The whole "I will not be dictated to argument" is weak to say the least. A two week window is ideal. Roach said himself that Manny doesn't feel comfortable for 3 days after taking blood. Well Mayweather has offered 2 entire weeks. And Pacs camp decline it? Hmm.

I'm not sure how reliable these emails are that Atlas is talking about, but even without emails and added scandal, Pacquiao still looks highly suspicious. The fight is available, Mayweather has said that he wants to fight. What are we waiting for? Oh right, Manny is worried about a blood test! I was watching that dicumentary "Supersize me" the other day. The guy was getting blood tests practically everyday without a bother. What is Manny's excuse? He's like a little kid, "Mummy. Don't let them touch my blood! Wa wa wa".

It seems to me that Pac really must be juicing or else simply doesn't want to fight Mayweather.

Yeah I pretty much agree, it's very hard to state how his sources are reliable but it seems like there is a bit more smoke than what it used to have, I don't know but if I was Atlas, I wouldn't make such comment with a very high certitude, especially now that some lawsuits have been engaged. let's see how it pans out and definitely, 2 weeks window is more than acceptable in the circumstances.

Well i dont think hes that liable because he says hes not claiming manny is dirty and that he has someone telling him that they saw emails. He is not claimed to have seen them himself, hes only saying what someone else told him.

That's true. Atlas probably covered himself quite well.

[Preme]

Yeah I pretty much agree, it's very hard to state how his sources are reliable but it seems like there is a bit more smoke than what it used to have, I don't know but if I was Atlas, I wouldn't make such comment with a very high certitude, especially now that some lawsuits have been engaged. let's see how it pans out and definitely, 2 weeks window is more than acceptable in the circumstances.

Well i dont think hes that liable because he says hes not claiming manny is dirty and that he has someone telling him that they saw emails. He is not claimed to have seen them himself, hes only saying what someone else told him.

That's true. Atlas probably covered himself quite well.

he has to cover him self, i mean he lives in a country where people sue mcdonalds for milliond coz the coffee is to hot...

i don't think Atlas is the type to lie...

[Nameless]

I'm glad that Atlas took the stance he did. The whole "I will not be dictated to argument" is weak to say the least. A two week window is ideal. Roach said himself that Manny doesn't feel comfortable for 3 days after taking blood. Well Mayweather has offered 2 entire weeks. And Pacs camp decline it? Hmm.

I'm not sure how reliable these emails are that Atlas is talking about, but even without emails and added scandal, Pacquiao still looks highly suspicious. The fight is available, Mayweather has said that he wants to fight. What are we waiting for? Oh right, Manny is worried about a blood test! I was watching that dicumentary "Supersize me" the other day. The guy was getting blood tests practically everyday without a bother. What is Manny's excuse? He's like a little kid, "Mummy. Don't let them touch my blood! Wa wa wa".

It seems to me that Pac really must be juicing or else simply doesn't want to fight Mayweather.

Yeah I pretty much agree, it's very hard to state how his sources are reliable but it seems like there is a bit more smoke than what it used to have, I don't know but if I was Atlas, I wouldn't make such comment with a very high certitude, especially now that some lawsuits have been engaged. let's see how it pans out and definitely, 2 weeks window is more than acceptable in the circumstances.

Well i dont think hes that liable because he says hes not claiming manny is dirty and that he has someone telling him that they saw emails. He is not claimed to have seen them himself, hes only saying what someone else told him.

I think, like Miles said, that his way to phrase things is in order to protect him as much as possible, you know the kind of "I am not saying that Manny is juiced but I have very good and reliable sources that are stating that..."

[ER-101]

People on this forum have lost it! I would not say Pacquiao is afraid to take a blood test because he might get caught. It makes no logical sense at all. Here is why.

Let us say, you have amassed a very nice fortune and could retire today. You love your wife and family dearly and wouldn't do anything to jeopardize your relationship. They are more important to you than anything and would die for them. You are planning a trip to a Vegas conference. You have actually cheated on your wife and got away with it because it's impossible that you could ever get caught. (There is almost no guy wouldn't) Your friend is another very wealthy guy going with you and his gold digger wife suspects him of cheating. His wife is watching him very closely and has actually hired a private detective to watch his every move. Your wife knows this and has told you about it. Your friend tells you that he has lined up some very hot playboy mansion type girls for your trip to Vegas. Now tell me you're going to screw up the life you love and cheat! That would make no sense at all.

[Zilla]

I'm glad that Atlas took the stance he did. The whole "I will not be dictated to argument" is weak to say the least. A two week window is ideal. Roach said himself that Manny doesn't feel comfortable for 3 days after taking blood. Well Mayweather has offered 2 entire weeks. And Pacs camp decline it? Hmm.

I'm not sure how reliable these emails are that Atlas is talking about, but even without emails and added scandal, Pacquiao still looks highly suspicious. The fight is available, Mayweather has said that he wants to fight. What are we waiting for? Oh right, Manny is worried about a blood test! I was watching that dicumentary "Supersize me" the other day. The guy was getting blood tests practically everyday without a bother. What is Manny's excuse? He's like a little kid, "Mummy. Don't let them touch my blood! Wa wa wa".

It seems to me that Pac really must be juicing or else simply doesn't want to fight Mayweather.

That's the rumor we should've started, not steroids. Manny is afraid to fight!

[fan johnny]

Let me correct the title of your post.

"Atlas says reliable sources confirm Manny is juiced"

Atlas says "In no way am I saying, I think Pacquiao is dirty." "All I'm saying is the common man, the regular guy on the streets is saying "Why won't you take a blood test if your clean?"

[hitmanhatton]

Let me correct the title of your post.

"Atlas says reliable sources confirm Manny is juiced"

Atlas says "In no way am I saying, I think Pacquiao is dirty." "All I'm saying is the common man, the regular guy on the streets is saying "Why won't you take a blood test if your clean?"

listen to the whole thing, his only covering his own back with that, we know how pac loves taking things to court

[The Shadow]

1) The first asked if the fight could happen and what would be the penalties if PAcquiao was tested positive.

2) Second asked if it was possible to keep it secret for the sake of boxing if Pacquiao was proven positive.


I hope for him that it's true otherwise, here comes the lawsuit but indeed, this is getting quite interesting...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cHRG...ayer_embedded#at 2:00, Atlas states that some reliable sources of him told him that the Pacquiao Clan wrote 2 mails to the Mayweather's camp.

Interesting find, but it's utterly absurd: Why would anyone from the Pacquiao camp send out such e-mails? E-mails that YOU KNOW the Mayweather camp would be all over, and would have already put together a press release containing such e-mails, if such e-mails existed.

I like Atlas. He's a bit of a nut and makes off-the-wall observations sometimes, but he's really a good guy, which isn't too common in such a disgustingly corrupt sport; however, I think this is all conjecture and he said, she said drivel. Mayweather -- along with his camp -- has made claims; those claims haven't been validly substantiated, and they have also been used -- in my humble opinion -- to exploit the lagging interest in a near dead sport, sell tickets and engage in psychological warfare.

Humans are fairly predictable, and greed conquers all - particularly in this sport. The fight WILL happen, its just a matter of when.

As a Pacquiao fan, and as a person who has used anabolics in my distant past, I can't say definitively that he's not dopping. However, I've followed Pac's ascent through the ranks for years, and I can see nothing that would lead me to believe that he's used anabolics or G.H.

The fact that he doesn't want to be tested shortly before the fight doesn't make much sense and seems to lend itself to the idea that this decision is governed by superstition on Pacquiao's part. These are boxers, folks. They aren't calculating the expansion rate of the universe or working on String Theory.

I think that Mayweather is doing a wonderful job of selling a fight which may potentially trump all other boxing events. Although unlikely, I hope he does a far worse job in the ring and gets the thorough leveling he has coming to him in the not so distant future.

[OumaFan]

This is the dumbest shit I've ever heard of in my life. I'm sorry but my faith in mankind will be shot to shit if Manny's people tried to discuss this with Floyd's people THROUGH EMAIL. Hi Police, I was just wondering if its ok if I could sleep with dead people. Thanks in advance for your response. P.S. please DON'T forward this to anyone.

DUMBEST SHIT I'VE EVER HEARD.

Teddy better have seen these emails.

If this is true I'll just be deeply disturbed about the future of mankind.

He's probably juicing but this is effing ridiculous.

[rjj tszyu]

Could team Pac really be so dumb? Really??

I mean every other decision they make seems genius, like making ODLH drain right down to 147. I don't think they'd make stupid mistakes like this!! Probably more mind games and selling to the public.

I wouldn't be suprised if the fight really has been agreed but maybe for May or June and with such a stretch maybe they are just thinking of some way to keep it in the press, then Manny does take the test he comes out clean and regains his superman status at least until PBF kicks his ass.

This is something like the most likely scenario for me.