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    Default On the way to leap onto the Gamboa bandwagon......

    Consider this:

    1. Mtagwa weighed in at 122 against Gamboa (for a 126-pound fight!!), and looked every bit the sickly, underweight opponent.

    2. Lopez himself has too big a frame for 122, and his poor showing against Mtagwa in his last outing may have been due to fatigue from making that weight. He'll campaign at 126 for awhile, and maybe even move up from there.

    3. Mtagwa was tailor-made for Gamboa's blinding speed. When you know you won't get hit back, you can afford to be more bold. Lopez will hit back.

    That being said, however, I'll be biting my nails down to stubs if and when these two meet in the ring.

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    Default Re: On the way to leap onto the Gamboa bandwagon......

    Lopez still was too hittable for my liking at 126 against Luevano, and Luevano has nothing on speed when you compare him to Gamboa, i'd say that Lopez and Gamboa are about even in punching power, Lopez has a wider variety of punches and IMO is technically more well rounded, that said IMO it's as 50/50 as it can be when these two meet up, should be a great fight

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    Default Re: On the way to leap onto the Gamboa bandwagon......

    As 50/50 as can be?? I must be in bizzaro world. I just see a better fighter in Gamboa, Lopez isn't nearly fast enough to win exchanges with him, and his defence is way to leaky to outbox Gamboa from the outside without getting caught, and that's if he even has better tools from a distance in the first place, which is hardly a given. Lopez might look to be better schooled against the right opponent, but Gamboa showed a hell of a lot against Mtagwa, was much more patient than he has been and still just as explosive. Obviously Lopez can bang and has a good punchers chance if/when they fight, but I'd fully expect Gamboa to chew him up.

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    Default Re: On the way to leap onto the Gamboa bandwagon......

    Gamboa was incredibly impressive with his left hook. It was fast and consistent. He should not have been able to hit a reasonably good fighter with that punch if he did not have exceptional skills. He was the better fighter on that night and if he and Lopez meet, he will beat him. It would be a good fight, but Gamboa would win. He has too much speed and too many skills.
    We shall see if I am right.

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    Default Re: On the way to leap onto the Gamboa bandwagon......

    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    As 50/50 as can be?? I must be in bizzaro world. I just see a better fighter in Gamboa, Lopez isn't nearly fast enough to win exchanges with him, and his defence is way to leaky to outbox Gamboa from the outside without getting caught, and that's if he even has better tools from a distance in the first place, which is hardly a given. Lopez might look to be better schooled against the right opponent, but Gamboa showed a hell of a lot against Mtagwa, was much more patient than he has been and still just as explosive. Obviously Lopez can bang and has a good punchers chance if/when they fight, but I'd fully expect Gamboa to chew him up.
    aside from Mtagwa, name one quality opponent on Gamboa's record up to date

    Lopez already has beaten the likes of, Ponce De Leon, Penalosa, Mtagwa, and Luevano, and he stopped all but one of them in a fight that was his last at that given weight class

    Gamboa's chin has all over it seeing how he's been dropped against nobodies, Mtagwa had a tired Lopez hurt and still wasn't able to drop him or stop him, it's in no way farfetched to put this fight as a 50/50 fight, especially since we've still haven't seen Gamboa with a A level opponent

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    Default Re: On the way to leap onto the Gamboa bandwagon......

    I'm jumping off the Lopez bandwagon and onto the Gamboa one, although I think I was already on it. Lopez looked unstoppable when he was blowing people away in a round, he doesn't look so good when you see a few rounds of him.

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    Default Re: On the way to leap onto the Gamboa bandwagon......

    It's too soon to risk you ankles jumpin on or off either of these wagons. Gamboa looked good this weekend but he still has a lot of flaws. To me he looks as good as he should look with as many pro fights as he's had. Juanma's the same, he's not quite as good as his people tried to convince us of but he's still the same guy who blasted ponce, beat the crap out of gerry p and for a bit was ko'ing guys in R. mtagwa class in the first round. Let's just not get too excited is all. We could forget about both these guys two years from now as finicky as fans are.
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    Default Re: On the way to leap onto the Gamboa bandwagon......

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    As 50/50 as can be?? I must be in bizzaro world. I just see a better fighter in Gamboa, Lopez isn't nearly fast enough to win exchanges with him, and his defence is way to leaky to outbox Gamboa from the outside without getting caught, and that's if he even has better tools from a distance in the first place, which is hardly a given. Lopez might look to be better schooled against the right opponent, but Gamboa showed a hell of a lot against Mtagwa, was much more patient than he has been and still just as explosive. Obviously Lopez can bang and has a good punchers chance if/when they fight, but I'd fully expect Gamboa to chew him up.
    aside from Mtagwa, name one quality opponent on Gamboa's record up to date

    Lopez already has beaten the likes of, Ponce De Leon, Penalosa, Mtagwa, and Luevano, and he stopped all but one of them in a fight that was his last at that given weight class

    Gamboa's chin has all over it seeing how he's been dropped against nobodies, Mtagwa had a tired Lopez hurt and still wasn't able to drop him or stop him, it's in no way farfetched to put this fight as a 50/50 fight, especially since we've still haven't seen Gamboa with a A level opponent
    Darling Jiminez is/was a very good fighter, who took Gamboa the distance and gave him a good fight. He's EASILY comparable to any of the guys Lopez has beaten if you ask me, and clearly a better fighter than Mtagwa, who is nothing besides tough as nails. I think Gamboa has definetly shown some vulnerability, but at the same time you can attribute that to him being overconfident and wanting to please the crowd. Against Mtagwa he looked much more relaxed and methodical in his approach, and the result was devestating. I just feel Gamboa has much much better tools than Lopez, and with the right game plan would smoke him.

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    Default Re: On the way to leap onto the Gamboa bandwagon......

    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    As 50/50 as can be?? I must be in bizzaro world. I just see a better fighter in Gamboa, Lopez isn't nearly fast enough to win exchanges with him, and his defence is way to leaky to outbox Gamboa from the outside without getting caught, and that's if he even has better tools from a distance in the first place, which is hardly a given. Lopez might look to be better schooled against the right opponent, but Gamboa showed a hell of a lot against Mtagwa, was much more patient than he has been and still just as explosive. Obviously Lopez can bang and has a good punchers chance if/when they fight, but I'd fully expect Gamboa to chew him up.
    aside from Mtagwa, name one quality opponent on Gamboa's record up to date

    Lopez already has beaten the likes of, Ponce De Leon, Penalosa, Mtagwa, and Luevano, and he stopped all but one of them in a fight that was his last at that given weight class

    Gamboa's chin has all over it seeing how he's been dropped against nobodies, Mtagwa had a tired Lopez hurt and still wasn't able to drop him or stop him, it's in no way farfetched to put this fight as a 50/50 fight, especially since we've still haven't seen Gamboa with a A level opponent
    Darling Jiminez is/was a very good fighter, who took Gamboa the distance and gave him a good fight. He's EASILY comparable to any of the guys Lopez has beaten if you ask me, and clearly a better fighter than Mtagwa, who is nothing besides tough as nails. I think Gamboa has definetly shown some vulnerability, but at the same time you can attribute that to him being overconfident and wanting to please the crowd. Against Mtagwa he looked much more relaxed and methodical in his approach, and the result was devestating. I just feel Gamboa has much much better tools than Lopez, and with the right game plan would smoke him.
    guess we're just gonna have to agree to disagree, i see the fight right now as a winnable fight for both guys, whoever wins will have to be at his best cause overall IMO they're just about even, both have their weaknesses as well as their own distinct advantage over their opponent, Gamboa won more impressively on Saturday, but Lopez beat a better quality opponent than Gamboa in Luevano, making his win just as good as Gamboa's, as for Darling Jimenez being just as good as anyone Lopez has faced?

    Jimenez' biggest win was a KO victory over Mike Anchondo , the same Anchondo who was wrecked by Barrios, he has never fought for a world title and hasn't done jack shit since Gamboa beat him

    That being said you're seriously saying Jimenez is as good or better than, Daniel Ponce De Leon, Gerry Penalosa, and Steven Luevano

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    Default Re: On the way to leap onto the Gamboa bandwagon......

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    As 50/50 as can be?? I must be in bizzaro world. I just see a better fighter in Gamboa, Lopez isn't nearly fast enough to win exchanges with him, and his defence is way to leaky to outbox Gamboa from the outside without getting caught, and that's if he even has better tools from a distance in the first place, which is hardly a given. Lopez might look to be better schooled against the right opponent, but Gamboa showed a hell of a lot against Mtagwa, was much more patient than he has been and still just as explosive. Obviously Lopez can bang and has a good punchers chance if/when they fight, but I'd fully expect Gamboa to chew him up.
    aside from Mtagwa, name one quality opponent on Gamboa's record up to date

    Lopez already has beaten the likes of, Ponce De Leon, Penalosa, Mtagwa, and Luevano, and he stopped all but one of them in a fight that was his last at that given weight class

    Gamboa's chin has all over it seeing how he's been dropped against nobodies, Mtagwa had a tired Lopez hurt and still wasn't able to drop him or stop him, it's in no way farfetched to put this fight as a 50/50 fight, especially since we've still haven't seen Gamboa with a A level opponent
    Rojas is at least a name fighter, Al Seeger went 8 rounds with Ponce de Leon.

    He obviously doesn't have the resume JML does, and I think it will be a great fight because JML is one of the very best prospects in the sport, but Gamboa has to be the favorite in this fight. They both could be hurt, they have both have the ability to hurt eachother, but if I had to put my money on who is going to land those type of blows more often there is no doubt in my mind it will be Gamboa.

    Also Jimenez was a very gifted amateur and he had the toughness along with the mental fortitude to hang in there with Gamboa, I think he possed a greater challenge then a lot of guys considered better than him. He may not of the credentials of the guys that have been mentioned in JML's defense, but he has more speed and a better chin(except Penalosa)

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    Default Re: On the way to leap onto the Gamboa bandwagon......

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    As 50/50 as can be?? I must be in bizzaro world. I just see a better fighter in Gamboa, Lopez isn't nearly fast enough to win exchanges with him, and his defence is way to leaky to outbox Gamboa from the outside without getting caught, and that's if he even has better tools from a distance in the first place, which is hardly a given. Lopez might look to be better schooled against the right opponent, but Gamboa showed a hell of a lot against Mtagwa, was much more patient than he has been and still just as explosive. Obviously Lopez can bang and has a good punchers chance if/when they fight, but I'd fully expect Gamboa to chew him up.
    aside from Mtagwa, name one quality opponent on Gamboa's record up to date

    Lopez already has beaten the likes of, Ponce De Leon, Penalosa, Mtagwa, and Luevano, and he stopped all but one of them in a fight that was his last at that given weight class

    Gamboa's chin has all over it seeing how he's been dropped against nobodies, Mtagwa had a tired Lopez hurt and still wasn't able to drop him or stop him, it's in no way farfetched to put this fight as a 50/50 fight, especially since we've still haven't seen Gamboa with a A level opponent
    Rojas is at least a name fighter, Al Seeger went 8 rounds with Ponce de Leon.

    He obviously doesn't have the resume JML does, and I think it will be a great fight because JML is one of the very best prospects in the sport, but Gamboa has to be the favorite in this fight. They both could be hurt, they have both have the ability to hurt eachother, but if I had to put my money on who is going to land those type of blows more often there is no doubt in my mind it will be Gamboa.

    Also Jimenez was a very gifted amateur and he had the toughness along with the mental fortitude to hang in there with Gamboa, I think he possed a greater challenge then a lot of guys considered better than him. He may not of the credentials of the guys that have been mentioned in JML's defense, but he has more speed and a better chin(except Penalosa)
    Juanma already is a two division champ, so technically he's not a prospect

    and i agree that Gamboa looked more impressive on Saturday, but IMO the Lopez that took on Luevano would have gotten the stoppage against Mtagwa, especially at 126

    like i said, both have their own distinct advantages that makes this fight so intriguing and making it a real 50/50 fight

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