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    Default Does the Winner of Floyd-Mosley become #1 p4p?

    The Ring magazine has Manny, Floyd, and Shane ranked 1,2, and 3 respectively and the number 2 and 3 will be fighting each other in May. Does the winner become the new p4p number 1 and Manny gets pushed to number 2?

    Yes, p4p is subjective just like all rankings, but in my eyes the winner of this upcoming fight should be p4p #1.

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    Default Re: Does the Winner of Floyd-Mosley become #1 p4p?

    You could make a good case for it, but I would leave Manny at #1
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    Default Re: Does the Winner of Floyd-Mosley become #1 p4p?

    Floyd does.

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    Default Re: Does the Winner of Floyd-Mosley become #1 p4p?

    Depends how dominating the win is i believe. If Floyd edges past Mosley then maybe not but if he wins in a lopsided fashion 'd say he'd have to be number 1.

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    Default Re: Does the Winner of Floyd-Mosley become #1 p4p?

    I guess it depends on if you feel the winner's recent victories and the way in which they accomplished them are more impressive than Pacquiao's victories over Hatton, Cotto, and Clottey.

    If Mosley wins I might be inclined to place him at #1 (not that it would matter for long since he and Pacquiao would soon meet to decide who was best), but if Pacquiao convincingly beats Clottey I would have a hard time placing Mayweather ahead of him.

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    Default Re: Does the Winner of Floyd-Mosley become #1 p4p?

    Quote Originally Posted by eagle View Post
    Depends how dominating the win is i believe. If Floyd edges past Mosley then maybe not but if he wins in a lopsided fashion 'd say he'd have to be number 1.
    Good call, I forgot to factor in how dominating the performance should be. If the winner of the Floyd-Mosley fight just wins by a close decision than Manny stays, but if it's a dominating performance he should be #1 imo.

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    Default Re: Does the Winner of Floyd-Mosley become #1 p4p?

    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
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    Depends how dominating the win is i believe. If Floyd edges past Mosley then maybe not but if he wins in a lopsided fashion 'd say he'd have to be number 1.
    Good call, I forgot to factor in how dominating the performance should be. If the winner of the Floyd-Mosley fight just wins by a close decision than Manny stays, but if it's a dominating performance he should be #1 imo.
    I think that if Mosley wins a close but clear decision over Floyd he deserves some consideration for the #1 P4P spot. It's very debatable though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle View Post
    Depends how dominating the win is i believe. If Floyd edges past Mosley then maybe not but if he wins in a lopsided fashion 'd say he'd have to be number 1.
    Agreed.

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    I just wish we could've seen these two fight prime for prime at 135 pounds. One of the most intriguing fights ever for me
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    Default Re: Does the Winner of Floyd-Mosley become #1 p4p?

    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    The Ring magazine has Manny, Floyd, and Shane ranked 1,2, and 3 respectively and the number 2 and 3 will be fighting each other in May. Does the winner become the new p4p number 1 and Manny gets pushed to number 2?

    Yes, p4p is subjective just like all rankings, but in my eyes the winner of this upcoming fight should be p4p #1.
    Yes. I agree. Manny only took Floyd's spot, because of inactivity. Now Floyds back and beating Mosely will be a huge conquest. I say Floyd is P4P if he pulls this off.

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    Default Re: Does the Winner of Floyd-Mosley become #1 p4p?

    Actually, in the event that Floyd and Pac both win their fights, I'm in favor of vacating the #1 p4p spot until these two fools fight each other.

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    Default Re: Does the Winner of Floyd-Mosley become #1 p4p?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Actually, in the event that Floyd and Pac both win their fights, I'm in favor of vacating the #1 p4p spot until these two fools fight each other.
    I'm thinking of the same thing. Maybe this will be an added motivation for them to fight each other.

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    Default Re: Does the Winner of Floyd-Mosley become #1 p4p?

    I believe that if Floyd wins in convincing fashion then yes he is p4p #1. People discount Floyd's recent body of work but I don't see how you can. IF he beats Shane than thats SHANE, JMM, HATTON last three wins. Consider PAC's if he beats Clotty. Then thats Clotty, Cotto, and Hatton. I don't see a big difference in quality of opponant. People discount Floyd's win over JMM but the same guy gave PAC fits in the first fight (ended in a Draw) and was robbed (I believe) in the second fight in a close decision just 2 years ago. People are rating Clotty higher but really who has he fought? He lost a close decision to Cotto and beat Zab Judah.

    IMO if Floyd beats Shane convincingly than yes he is P4P champ hands down.

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    Default Re: Does the Winner of Floyd-Mosley become #1 p4p?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Actually, in the event that Floyd and Pac both win their fights, I'm in favor of vacating the #1 p4p spot until these two fools fight each other.
    I agree with this.

    I understand that some wouldn't give the spot to Mayweather because, while the p4p title isn't something to be defended like a belt, the top 2 guys are in a position to fight each other for it.

    But that theory isn't fair because what if the fight never happens? What if Mayweather continues to fight #3 ranked guys & Pacquiao continues to fight #20+ ranked guys? Using that original theory Pacquiao can just say "Yeah he's beating #3 ranked guys but he hasn't beat me so i'm still p4p #1"

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    Default Re: Does the Winner of Floyd-Mosley become #1 p4p?

    Manny having disposed of better opponents in a more stunning fashion on the average of their respective last 5 fights, I say no but Pacman, though he remains P4P in my book, lost a lot of respect from humbly yours for pretending to be scared of needles and his shadow.
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