Froch-Kessler - who wins? (poll)

[Fenster]

Time to put our money where our mouth is. I just heard Froch on the radio sounding rather paranoid about being robbed. Says Kessler has the ability to fiddle his way to a points victory.

I've been backing FRoch to be knocked out for about the last 7 years. I was clearly wrong about him. He gets unfair criticism on this site, he's better than most make out and at the least a serious tough bastard.

Having said that.. I'm picking Kessler by late stoppage/PTS

[HattonTheHammer]

if you asked me this question a year ago i would of nailed down a 100% for a kess stoppage win

But froch just keeps surprising me. He has that calzaghe esque ability to adapt to situations and can fight on the front and back foot.

Im still gonna go with a narrow kessler points win as i feel froch may just be a bit to timid early on. But all the same i wouldnt be surprised if froch pulled it off and if he did it would far exceed anything calzaghe ever did

[Fenster]

Please stop comparing Froch with Calzaghe. You are the only person on Earth that can see Calzaghe in FRoch. They are nothing alike. Nothing. Well they both have a solid chin. But that's it.

[ryanman]

Please stop comparing Froch with Calzaghe. You are the only person on Earth that can see Calzaghe in FRoch. They are nothing alike. Nothing. Well they both have a solid chin. But that's it.

I could hardly think of two more different fighters.

And Hammer I really don't see Froch as very adaptable. He didn't adapt vs Pascal, or Taylor, or Dirrell. But he still managed to win them though so i'm not going to criticise him. He has his style and it happens to have eventually worked in his last three fights. (well actually it didn't work against Dirrell, which is probably when he most needed some 'adaptability').

[HattonTheHammer]

Please stop comparing Froch with Calzaghe. You are the only person on Earth that can see Calzaghe in FRoch. They are nothing alike. Nothing. Well they both have a solid chin. But that's it.

Im simply stating that he has that unique ability to adapt to different fights just like calzaghe did

And who are we to say froch wont be better than calzaghe. At this stage of his career calzaghe was fighting tomato cans at cardiff arms park.

Froch is the best of the 6 fighters if you ask me, just think he may get taken aback come saturday night and fall a tad short

[ryanman]

Please stop comparing Froch with Calzaghe. You are the only person on Earth that can see Calzaghe in FRoch. They are nothing alike. Nothing. Well they both have a solid chin. But that's it.

Im simply stating that he has that unique ability to adapt to different fights just like calzaghe did

And who are we to say froch wont be better than calzaghe. At this stage of his career calzaghe was fighting tomato cans at cardiff arms park.

Froch is the best of the 6 fighters if you ask me, just think he may get taken aback come saturday night and fall a tad short

Hammer, what fights has Froch shown his adaptability in? And what did he do to adapt?
I think you mean tenacity rather than adaptability. He certainly has plenty of tenacity.

[HattonTheHammer]

Please stop comparing Froch with Calzaghe. You are the only person on Earth that can see Calzaghe in FRoch. They are nothing alike. Nothing. Well they both have a solid chin. But that's it.

Im simply stating that he has that unique ability to adapt to different fights just like calzaghe did

And who are we to say froch wont be better than calzaghe. At this stage of his career calzaghe was fighting tomato cans at cardiff arms park.

Froch is the best of the 6 fighters if you ask me, just think he may get taken aback come saturday night and fall a tad short

Hammer, what fights has Froch shown his adaptability in? And what did he do to adapt?
I think you mean tenacity rather than adaptability. He certainly has plenty of tenacity.

lets just look at his last 3 fights

jean pascal - from the word go froch goes at 100miles an hour and batters pascal all over the place. Eventually by 3-4 pascal is getting back into it and the out an out fight is beginning to suit the canadian. Froch adapts his style to pot shotting his way to victory and comes away with a unanimous win

jermain taylor - froch is 2nd best early doors taken aback by the hostile crowd and even knocked down by a flash punch. From 6 onwards froch uses his boxing ability to get back into the fight and by the 12th he is able to chop down taylor mainly due to the work he did earlier in the fight.

Andre Dirrell - you know, i know it, froch knows it - dirrell didnt come to fight, he came to run for 12rounds which is exactly what he did. Could froch afford at any stage to go on an all out assault? course not, dirrell would simply pick him off at will. Instead the cobra beats dirrell at his own game and takes a comfortable win

now thats adaptability for you!!!

[Tam Seddon]

Please stop comparing Froch with Calzaghe. You are the only person on Earth that can see Calzaghe in FRoch. They are nothing alike. Nothing. Well they both have a solid chin. But that's it.

Im simply stating that he has that unique ability to adapt to different fights just like calzaghe did

And who are we to say froch wont be better than calzaghe. At this stage of his career calzaghe was fighting tomato cans at cardiff arms park.

Froch is the best of the 6 fighters if you ask me, just think he may get taken aback come saturday night and fall a tad short

Hammer, what fights has Froch shown his adaptability in? And what did he do to adapt?
I think you mean tenacity rather than adaptability. He certainly has plenty of tenacity.

I think in the pascal fight when it was close he showed that he changed his game plan in order to change his style to change the pace of the fight. It was very close up until this point. In the Taylor fight again as Taylor showed his decline as he does in every fight he upped the pace and kept coming forward to eventually stop him.

I think this fight is going to be very close and its a case of who wants it more. I think Froch has had to dig deep a lot recently and in those fights I think he has gained a lot of experience in situations which he has turned around the result from losing the fight to winning it. I think Kessler has been on the decline since the Calzaghe fight and thats been clear from his performances of late. I think the Ward fight shows that he is beatable and he really doesnt have a second game plan. I expect a very exciting brawl and I think Carl will do enough to walk away champion with a spectacular late stoppage. COME ON FROCHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ross]

Please stop comparing Froch with Calzaghe. You are the only person on Earth that can see Calzaghe in FRoch. They are nothing alike. Nothing. Well they both have a solid chin. But that's it.

Im simply stating that he has that unique ability to adapt to different fights just like calzaghe did

And who are we to say froch wont be better than calzaghe. At this stage of his career calzaghe was fighting tomato cans at cardiff arms park.

Froch is the best of the 6 fighters if you ask me, just think he may get taken aback come saturday night and fall a tad short

Oh for fuucks sakes at the same age Calzaghe had been a champ for 8 years

Beating Kessler now does not compare to the fighter that Calzaghe fought. Iv doubts about Kesslers heart now after that fight, he fought well in there but since, hes looked mediocre, when he was battering a fresh Andrade and wiping out Beyer I thought it was a big ask for Calzaghe at the late stage of his career to be able to dominate as much as he did against such a good young proven champion!!

Froch is still yet to face a world rated super middle believe it or not! Taylor was an ex middle who was dropped by Lacy before winning on points and had been beaten by another middle weight, thats all he had at supermiddle, nothing to say he was world class at the weight and Taylor had he lasted would have beaten Carl, he even dropped him hard!

Pascal has gone on to prove himself a bit but to say hed been wobbled badly, Froch couldnt dent him and he hadnt fought any decent fighters to that point either, same goes for Dirrell who, when he did fight, was outboxing Carl easy!!

Carl has been stronger than his opponents and had to gut out wins, he hasnt outskilled anyone. If Kessler has any hunger left he out points Froch!

[littlebif]

I'am slightly siding with Kessler Froch is to easy to hit and he will be infront of Kessler all night,both have a decent chin although Froch has been getting hurt since he has moved up to world level.But most important thing i see in this fight is their defence's and i have to favour Kessler's. I'am going for kessler by late stoppage or points win.

[skel1983]

Please stop comparing Froch with Calzaghe. You are the only person on Earth that can see Calzaghe in FRoch. They are nothing alike. Nothing. Well they both have a solid chin. But that's it.

Im simply stating that he has that unique ability to adapt to different fights just like calzaghe did

And who are we to say froch wont be better than calzaghe. At this stage of his career calzaghe was fighting tomato cans at cardiff arms park.

Froch is the best of the 6 fighters if you ask me, just think he may get taken aback come saturday night and fall a tad short

Oh for fuucks sakes at the same age Calzaghe had been a champ for 8 years

Beating Kessler now does not compare to the fighter that Calzaghe fought. Iv doubts about Kesslers heart now after that fight, he fought well in there but since, hes looked mediocre, when he was battering a fresh Andrade and wiping out Beyer I thought it was a big ask for Calzaghe at the late stage of his career to be able to dominate as much as he did against such a good young proven champion!!

Froch is still yet to face a world rated super middle believe it or not! Taylor was an ex middle who was dropped by Lacy before winning on points and had been beaten by another middle weight, thats all he had at supermiddle, nothing to say he was world class at the weight and Taylor had he lasted would have beaten Carl, he even dropped him hard!

Pascal has gone on to prove himself a bit but to say hed been wobbled badly, Froch couldnt dent him and he hadnt fought any decent fighters to that point either, same goes for Dirrell who, when he did fight, was outboxing Carl easy!!

Carl has been stronger than his opponents and had to gut out wins, he hasnt outskilled anyone. If Kessler has any hunger left he out points Froch!

In them 8 years it has taken Froch less than 18 months to have a better resume as a World Champ

[Kirkland Laing]

Please stop comparing Froch with Calzaghe. You are the only person on Earth that can see Calzaghe in FRoch. They are nothing alike. Nothing. Well they both have a solid chin. But that's it.

Im simply stating that he has that unique ability to adapt to different fights just like calzaghe did

And who are we to say froch wont be better than calzaghe. At this stage of his career calzaghe was fighting tomato cans at cardiff arms park.

Froch is the best of the 6 fighters if you ask me, just think he may get taken aback come saturday night and fall a tad short

If Froch has a unique ability then nobody else has it. Calzaghe can't have it too or it wouldn't be unique.

And Froch just did what he did in his last three fights, walk forward face first throwing punches. The only thing that changed in the Taylor fight was that Taylor ran out of steam and slowed down to Froch speed and Dirrell fought like a prospect away from hom but still won the fight on most peoples' scorecards including the British TV team.

[Kev]

Please stop comparing Froch with Calzaghe. You are the only person on Earth that can see Calzaghe in FRoch. They are nothing alike. Nothing. Well they both have a solid chin. But that's it.

Im simply stating that he has that unique ability to adapt to different fights just like calzaghe did

And who are we to say froch wont be better than calzaghe. At this stage of his career calzaghe was fighting tomato cans at cardiff arms park.

Froch is the best of the 6 fighters if you ask me, just think he may get taken aback come saturday night and fall a tad short

If Froch has a unique ability then nobody else has it. Calzaghe can't have it too or it wouldn't be unique.

And Froch just did what he did in his last three fights, walk forward face first throwing punches. The only thing that changed in the Taylor fight was that Taylor ran out of steam and slowed down to Froch speed and Dirrell fought like a prospect away from hom but still won the fight on most peoples' scorecards including the British TV team.

I have to agree with Kirkland. Even as a Froch fan I must concede he is arguably the LEAST adaptable fighter in the Super 6 competition.

He has fought exactly the same way every time I've seen him. He tends to do better when fighters come for him and he can land those uppercuts, but at the level he's fighting at now his opponents have been smarter.

Joe Calzaghe he most definitely is not.

I believe it was Killersheep who said rather than adaptable, he is best described by the adjective 'tenacious'. That sums him up perfectly. He has found a way to win so far, not through being adaptable, he changes nothing, but rather he sticks at it, and has great stamina and mental determination.

You could conceivably argue that he is the mentally strongest fighter in the whole competition, (although we haven't seen Andre Ward' resolve tested yet), but he's simply not adaptable, I would say not even a bit.

[Andre]

Please stop comparing Froch with Calzaghe. You are the only person on Earth that can see Calzaghe in FRoch. They are nothing alike. Nothing. Well they both have a solid chin. But that's it.

And reasonable women.

[Spicoli]

There is nothing,and I mean nothing that compares to a solid fight on a huge screen in your living room,speakers making the walls vibrate .Streams are good but,yeh.

9:05 pm and entering the 12th round of Froch/Kessler.Cheers