Super 6 Tiebreaking Rules?

[amat]

For a little clarification here's a few scenarios, anyone know how they play out?

Dirrell loses to Ward
Froch loses to AA

Top 4 advance so what if those guys end up witroh 2 points each? I'm assuming Froch advances which makes that decision stink even more.

What if Ward loses 2 and Froch loses, what is the tiebreaker there for 2 guys who haven't fought each other?

What if Allan Green loses to Ward but beats Kessler by KO and ends up tied with Abraham at 3 points? What then would Abraham's tiebreaker against Taylor kick in?

[amat]

This is super relevant to Bute too in a way because he'll likely be fighting one of the 5 or 6 guys as they will be among the only guys available to fight most likely.

[HattonTheHammer]

Just like with every other part of this farcical tournament they make the rules up as they go along

Just as long as the system involves ensuring andre dirrell or andre ward eventually win the tournament it`ll be just dandy for those running this at showtime

[Kev]

Just like with every other part of this farcical tournament they make the rules up as they go along

Just as long as the system involves ensuring andre dirrell or andre ward eventually win the tournament it`ll be just dandy for those running this at showtime

wtf?

How has the tournament shown favouritism to those guys so far?

[HattonTheHammer]

Just like with every other part of this farcical tournament they make the rules up as they go along

Just as long as the system involves ensuring andre dirrell or andre ward eventually win the tournament it`ll be just dandy for those running this at showtime

wtf?

How has the tournament shown favouritism to those guys so far?

The best fighter in the tournament and pre tourney favourite is given the toughest groupings by having to fight dirrell, kessler and abraham with the last 2 being the toughest match ups both requiring him to fight away from home.

The andres get comfortable home town match ups one of which immidiately gets to fight the weakest fighter in the tourney coming off the back of his blatant cheating against kessler while the other one feigns injury and gets the win instead of an automatic DQ for play acting

[amat]

Who knows?

Also, why wouldn't Showtime want Froch to win against Kessler? Who's more appealing to the Americans, some guy from a country most couldn't place on the right side of the continent or a dumb yet fairly exciting Brit. What is their motivation for conspiring to kick Froch out?

You're attitude is why good ideas don't last in boxing or at least catch on. It's not rigged, there have been some extraordinary circumstances and one horrendous decision. In reality the Abraham-Dirrell fight isn't controversial in the least, pretty cut and dry actually as even if he was acting, you can't get DQ'd for acting, only hitting someone flush while they are on one knee not looking at you.

[HattonTheHammer]

Who knows?

Also, why wouldn't Showtime want Froch to win against Kessler? Who's more appealing to the Americans, some guy from a country most couldn't place on the right side of the continent or a dumb yet fairly exciting Brit. What is their motivation for conspiring to kick Froch out?

You're attitude is why good ideas don't last in boxing.

Why dont we just say if we are gonna have a fair non-biased competition such as this we will hold every single fight in neutral venues thus ensuring that the real winner will provail every time

the current super 6 reads;
ward 3
abraham 3
Froch 2
kessler 2
Dirrell 2
green 0

had the results of been fair it would now read:

abraham 5
froch 4
kessler 2
ward 0
green 0
dirrell 0

see how the american thing comes into play

[amat]

So Kessler beats Ward in a neutral location? Am I going to have to dig up some of your day-after posts HTHomo?

[ICB]

Who knows?

Also, why wouldn't Showtime want Froch to win against Kessler? Who's more appealing to the Americans, some guy from a country most couldn't place on the right side of the continent or a dumb yet fairly exciting Brit. What is their motivation for conspiring to kick Froch out?

You're attitude is why good ideas don't last in boxing.

Why dont we just say if we are gonna have a fair non-biased competition such as this we will hold every single fight in neutral venues thus ensuring that the real winner will provail every time

the current super 6 reads;
ward 3
abraham 3
Froch 2
kessler 2
Dirrell 2
green 0

had the results of been fair it would now read:

abraham 5
froch 4
kessler 2
ward 0
green 0
dirrell 0

see how the american thing comes into play

Actually if the results would of been fair, Andre Dirrell would have 4 points and Carl Froch would have 0.

[Rantcatrat]

Who knows?

Also, why wouldn't Showtime want Froch to win against Kessler? Who's more appealing to the Americans, some guy from a country most couldn't place on the right side of the continent or a dumb yet fairly exciting Brit. What is their motivation for conspiring to kick Froch out?

You're attitude is why good ideas don't last in boxing.

Why dont we just say if we are gonna have a fair non-biased competition such as this we will hold every single fight in neutral venues thus ensuring that the real winner will provail every time

the current super 6 reads;
ward 3
abraham 3
Froch 2
kessler 2
Dirrell 2
green 0

had the results of been fair it would now read:

abraham 5
froch 4
kessler 2
ward 0
green 0
dirrell 0

see how the american thing comes into play

First, Ward only has 2 points, not 3.

You are wrong about two things. One, the pre-tournmanet favorite was Kessler, not Froch. Go back and check the odds. Kessler was the most marketable and well-known (other than Taylor) fighter going into the tournament.

Second, the toughest schedule is by far that of the Americans, Taylor/Green, with fights against the three toughest challengers and all on their opponent's turf. Taylor/Green fights Abraham (in Germany)/Ward (in Oakland)/Kessler (in Denmark), which is tougher than Froch's Dirrell (In Nottingham), Kessler (Denmark), Abraham (in Neutral Territory).

Third, Abraham had the weakest schedule with Taylor (in Germany)/Dirrell (In Michigan)/Froch(in Neutral Territory).

Lastly, either way you look at it, the Froch-Dirrell fight was very close. Yet, Froch got the win!! If this was some American Showtime conspiracy, Dirrell would have got a win in a close fight. Correct?

Showtime is in this for profit. Do you really think Ward/Dirrell are the most profitable fighters in the tournament? By far, the two most profitable fighters in the tournament are Kessler and Abraham. It's not even close.

One more thing, You don't think Abraham should have been DQ'd?

If there is anything conspiratorial in this tournament, it is that the hometown fighter wins every time.

[amat]

I keep forgetting not to try to debate with the drunk. Not sure you're at a full blown alcoholic stage yet but you certainly play the part well enough on here.