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    Default Fighter's I Believe That Could Of Beaten Floyd Mayweather Jr

    Super Featherweight

    No one.

    Lightweight

    Roberto Duran
    Pernell Whitaker
    Shane Mosley = highly debatable.
    ODLH = Would be very close.

    Jr Welterweight

    No one.

    Welterweight

    Tommy Hearns
    Sugar Ray Leonard
    Sugar Ray Robinson

    Jr Middleweight

    Terry Norris
    Wilfredo Benitez

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    You don't think Arguello or Nelson could have given him a go at Super Feather? Chavez, Pryor, Tszyu, or Taylor at 140?

    Decent list though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    You don't think Arguello or Nelson could have given him a go at Super Feather? Chavez, Pryor, Tszyu, or Taylor at 140?

    Decent list though
    Nah Arguello, Nelson, Chavez, struggled vs boxers. Aaron Pryor's too wild see how a decent boxer in Gary Hinton almost beat him, Kostya Tszyu is too slow and he would be picked apart by counters.

    Meldrick Taylor would probably trouble him but he's not as well rounded. I think some of those fighters would trouble him but not beat him, which is why i didn't mention them bro.

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    Whitaker vs. Mayweather would have been the ultimate chess match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oggie View Post
    Whitaker vs. Mayweather would have been the ultimate chess match.
    I'd love to have seen it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oggie View Post
    Whitaker vs. Mayweather would have been the ultimate chess match.
    For sure, but Floyd's physical gifts and superior technique would be the deciding factor in a fight that would progressively go more and more in his favor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oggie View Post
    Whitaker vs. Mayweather would have been the ultimate chess match.
    I just want to pull out my huge pillow thinking about those two fighting each other.. the ultimate snoozefest!
    Last edited by JonnyFolds; 05-06-2010 at 07:31 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Super Featherweight

    No one.

    Lightweight

    Roberto Duran
    Pernell Whitaker
    Shane Mosley = highly debatable.
    ODLH = Would be very close.

    Jr Welterweight

    No one.

    Welterweight

    Tommy Hearns
    Sugar Ray Leonard
    Sugar Ray Robinson

    Jr Middleweight

    Terry Norris
    Wilfredo Benitez
    Before anyone bashes me i want to be as objective as possible. Shane would not win. Sure he's "old" now but seriously i don't think any version of mosley would beat floyd. Reason being that Styles make fights and we all know that Mosley struggles with boxers.

    About Oscar de la hoya, i dont think any version beats Floyd either. I personally think the younger version of ODLH was far to one handed to beat him, although a KO is possible, i wouldnt bank on it. Whitaker? No, it would be a toss up but i pick Mayweather.

    Lastly (and I know many will disagree), I don't think duran beats mayweather. Don't get me wrong, Duran is the greater fighter legacy wise, but styles make fights and i see Duran being outboxed. I dont see Duran making Mayweather fight out of his element. But with a guy like Duran, you just never know.

    Above lightweight I would agree though. SRL would be pretty close i would think but this Sugar would edge it. Tommy Hearns is the prototype to manhandle floyd. I reckon he would knock Floyd's block off. SRR I honestly don't know, but i'd favour Robinson.

    I just don't buy into the notion that these ATG would automatically destroy floyd. I mean, hate him or love him, I think he has one of the most difficult styles to beat. Whether your name is Sugar Ray Leonard or Robinson you're not gonna just walk through a guy like May. Once again, i'm not saying Mayweather is the greatest of all time, far from it, but he's definitely got one of the most difficult styles to beat.

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    Duran could box very well on the inside...plus he got away with more fouls just like Floyd does, maybe worse. He KO'd Ken Buchannan with a low blow

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    I actually give JCC and Nelson at spr feather top chances.Both could be boxed but were excellent of closing range to both head and body.JCC pretty fluid under Welter,boxed a little more.Superb chins and solid dedication to body.Would be a bit of a track meet but at respected points in careers I think they are extremely live with Mayweather.

    might sound nuts at Jr welt but the first that came to mind,dont laugh,Hector camacho ??Could his hand,foot speed equally trouble Mayweather ??Case of first who commits or Mayweather just too sharp at range?

    Love Norris.But I was never sold on that beard when in comes to all time vs pondering.He could be rocked by 'fast' power and clubbing power.His emotions & instinct forced him into alot of mistakes.Tremendous combo hitter but was never sold on his balance,just think if Mayweather stays sharp/smart he could time Norris badly

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    Coulda, woulda, shoulda, is a backdoor attempt to salvage some grace after being on the other side of the outcome of this fight. One can always make or form these conclusions based on reasons and statistics that are subjectively interpreted. I mean the very idea that this has some kind of cognitive value is ludicrous. Please, lets deal with issues we can measure in real time, and end these infatuations with adoloscent thought processes of "Coulda, woulda, shoulda"

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJson View Post
    Coulda, woulda, shoulda, is a backdoor attempt to salvage some grace after being on the other side of the outcome of this fight. One can always make or form these conclusions based on reasons and statistics that are subjectively interpreted. I mean the very idea that this has some kind of cognitive value is ludicrous. Please, lets deal with issues we can measure in real time, and end these infatuations with adoloscent thought processes of "Coulda, woulda, shoulda"
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    Oh, and it would be "could've," which is a contraction of the words "could" and "have," not "could of."
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    Quote Originally Posted by JJson View Post
    Coulda, woulda, shoulda, is a backdoor attempt to salvage some grace after being on the other side of the outcome of this fight. One can always make or form these conclusions based on reasons and statistics that are subjectively interpreted. I mean the very idea that this has some kind of cognitive value is ludicrous. Please, lets deal with issues we can measure in real time, and end these infatuations with adoloscent thought processes of "Coulda, woulda, shoulda"
    Sort of narrows us down a great deal dont you think?It is a discussion board for well......boxing and all things there in ?Off course we'll never know what would have happened but sort of stamps Mayweathers place as hes in the all time discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJson View Post
    Coulda, woulda, shoulda, is a backdoor attempt to salvage some grace after being on the other side of the outcome of this fight. One can always make or form these conclusions based on reasons and statistics that are subjectively interpreted. I mean the very idea that this has some kind of cognitive value is ludicrous. Please, lets deal with issues we can measure in real time, and end these infatuations with adoloscent thought processes of "Coulda, woulda, shoulda"
    Excuse me for a second but i picked Floyd Mayweather Jr to win, im also a big fan of Floyd Mayweather Jr. This thread is purely for discussion, not to discredit Floyd Mayweather Jr in anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJson View Post
    Coulda, woulda, shoulda, is a backdoor attempt to salvage some grace after being on the other side of the outcome of this fight. One can always make or form these conclusions based on reasons and statistics that are subjectively interpreted. I mean the very idea that this has some kind of cognitive value is ludicrous. Please, lets deal with issues we can measure in real time, and end these infatuations with adoloscent thought processes of "Coulda, woulda, shoulda"
    I agree completely. There should be a separate board for this kind of thread. a fantasy matchup board maybe?

    People are getting carried away with the debate and it robs on them. the next day they are convinced that fighter A will surely beat fighter B from the past.

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