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    Default Pac's not ready for Floyd....

    I hate to admit it but let's just take a look see at who he has fought....

    Pac: Hatton, De la Hoya, Cotto

    None of those guys are great on defense, none of those guys have fast hands, none of those guys move their heads, none of those guys counter very well, and their footwork is very slow.

    Have we been seeing an optical illusion? Does Manny look fast as hell because everyone he fights isn't that fast and so Manny looks like the Flash when he's fighting?

    Whatever the reason, just looking at who he has fought building up to this fight it doesn't instill me with much confidence, I'm pulling for Pac but I have to say Floyd is going to win by KO.

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    Default Re: Pac's not ready for Floyd....

    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu apprentice View Post
    I hate to admit it but let's just take a look see at who he has fought....

    Pac: Hatton, De la Hoya, Cotto

    None of those guys are great on defense, none of those guys have fast hands, none of those guys move their heads, none of those guys counter very well, and their footwork is very slow.

    Have we been seeing an optical illusion? Does Manny look fast as hell because everyone he fights isn't that fast and so Manny looks like the Flash when he's fighting?

    Whatever the reason, just looking at who he has fought building up to this fight it doesn't instill me with much confidence, I'm pulling for Pac but I have to say Floyd is going to win by KO.
    If he's not ready now he'll never be ready, because he's at his peak right now.

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    Default Re: Pac's not ready for Floyd....

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    If he's not ready now he'll never be ready, because he's at his peak right now.
    Spot on. Are we meant to wait another year or two?
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    Default Re: Pac's not ready for Floyd....

    I'm a Pacquiao fan yet I have doubts in him everytime he fights someone new. I thought De La Hoya, Hatton, and Cotto were going to rough him up but I was wrong each time.

    Mayweather just has too many advantages over him. He's bigger than him, faster and smarter. Floyd has the power to hurt and KO Manny, he has the style to frustrate him, each time Floyd fights, I just can never see him losing. The only thing Manny has is whenever I doubt him, he shows me why I'm a fan. If anyone has a good shot beating Floyd, it's Manny.

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    Default Re: Pac's not ready for Floyd....

    That is true no doubt, but I was talking to 1 of my friends about this matchup and I said that I think Floyd takes out Pacquiao and he said what were my reasons, I stated he look spectacular in the Marquez and Mosley fights while Pacquiao's opponents had question marks next to them as in being shot, weight drain, over the hill, which were making him look great.

    Then he said the same thing could be said about Mayweather's recent opponents. He countered that Marquez was a 36 year old jumping 2 weight classes and who was going life and death at LW against his opponents so Marquez looking great at welter was out of the question, Mosley although being the number 1 welter in the world was 38 years old and only looked good in the Margarito fight in the last few years plus the 16 months of inactivity is also factored in.

    He made great points to countered me, and he also stated that Floyd will be close to 34 years old when the fight happens, and at that age your reflexes will start to dull, so in other words I'm going to have to revised my thinking and I now only slightly favor Floyd by a split Decision now as opposed to I thought he would steam roll Pacquiao to a UD or late stoppage.

    I don't know it's just hard to predict. We'll just have to wait and see.

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    It's the way he's beat them tho, he's murdered his last 4 opponents, he's the only legitimate challenge to floyd, like icb said if he's not ready now he'll never be ready. I expect floyd to prevail tho







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    Default Re: Pac's not ready for Floyd....

    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu apprentice View Post
    I hate to admit it but let's just take a look see at who he has fought....

    Pac: Hatton, De la Hoya, Cotto

    None of those guys are great on defense, none of those guys have fast hands, none of those guys move their heads, none of those guys counter very well, and their footwork is very slow.

    Have we been seeing an optical illusion? Does Manny look fast as hell because everyone he fights isn't that fast and so Manny looks like the Flash when he's fighting?

    Whatever the reason, just looking at who he has fought building up to this fight it doesn't instill me with much confidence, I'm pulling for Pac but I have to say Floyd is going to win by KO.
    I still give Manny the credits for fighting and beating those guys you mentioned. This is the reason why Pac vs Money should happen. This two guys both have the skills that we can only see once a lifetime and what a privilege to see 2 of them go at it on the ring.

    Manny is fast because he's fast. Thats he main assest and everone on his camp admits right before each fight that Manny's main weapon will be speed. Hoya, Hatton and Cotto might lack speed but odd makers and fight fans did give them some advantages before the fight like Hoya being too big and will kill Pac if he hits him, or Hatton will push and bully Pac around and then Cotto will be able to absorb pac's punches. All those stuffs prove that all pac fought them at a high level of competition that it can go either way. It adds up to the excitement though.

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    Default Re: Pac's not ready for Floyd....

    Why is this a surprise?
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    Default Re: Pac's not ready for Floyd....

    He's in his 30's, if he isn't ready now then he will never be ready.

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    My question is: Who is ready for Floyd? Pacquaio is ready, it's a question of whether he is good enough to win. Mayweather showed a sign of himself we have never seen before in his fight with Mosley and it was impressive. He was in deep serious trouble in round 2 and instead of getting on his bike he simply went to plan B and never looked back. Pacman will have to be at the very top of his game to beat Mayweather, different angles, constant pressure, speed and power and yet i have a feeling Mayweather will find some way to counter all of this.

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    Default Re: Pac's not ready for Floyd....

    Pac's ready , he'd make it competitive. Let's not get in too much in the Mayweather hype. Sure , he dominated an old Mosley . Not taking anything away from PBF, but Mosley was losing to Mayorga before the ko. So its a pic em fight imo

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    Default Re: Pac's not ready for Floyd....

    imo pacquiao is ready

    - 15 years as professional boxer (floyd 13 years)
    - 56 total fights (floyd 41 fights)
    - 317 total rounds boxed (floyd 299)
    - 68% ko (floyd 61% ko)
    - 31 years old (floyd is 33 years old)

    pacquiao is even more experienced than floyd as a boxer. he's ready.

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    I decided to watch a bit of Cotto vs Pac yesterday and i noticed that Pac was over reaching a lot with his punches i think Mayweather would counter punch his head off all night also when Cotto was on back foot Pac struggled to close him down.

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    Default Re: Pac's not ready for Floyd....

    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu apprentice View Post
    I hate to admit it but let's just take a look see at who he has fought....

    Pac: Hatton, De la Hoya, Cotto

    None of those guys are great on defense, none of those guys have fast hands, none of those guys move their heads, none of those guys counter very well, and their footwork is very slow.

    Have we been seeing an optical illusion? Does Manny look fast as hell because everyone he fights isn't that fast and so Manny looks like the Flash when he's fighting?

    Whatever the reason, just looking at who he has fought building up to this fight it doesn't instill me with much confidence, I'm pulling for Pac but I have to say Floyd is going to win by KO.

    I guess this post prooves that having 26,000 posts still doesnt make you a guru. I'm really not sure where to start. Mosely was purely outboxed by Cotto so Im not sure where you get off in saying Cotto doesnt have fast hands and cant counter, no one was saying that before Pacquiao dismantled him. The ONLY thing that Cotto has ever lacked in is a solid chin. You didn't mention Clottey, who threw every bit as much as mosley did against Mayweather. I honestly don't remember Mosley throwing one meaningful shot after the second round. No one ever mentions Pac's fights with Morrales, Barrera, or JMM? JMM simply had no business being at Welterweight. In their respectable weight classes, pound for pound those three are better than an aged mosely, aged DLH and so on. I really don't know why you even brought DLH and Hatton into the topic. In case you forgot Floyd had a split decision win over Oscar who Pac TKO'ed. In case you forgot it took Floyd 10 rounds to knock Hatton out while it took Pac 2! Im not sure where your going with this? On top of every other bit of nonsense in this post, you think Mayweather KO's Pacquiao? In case you havn't noticed Pac doesn't get hit alot and when he does he simply throws his arms out horizontally as if to say, "is that all you got"? If an aged Mosely can tag Mayweather like he did in the second, then he's got a heck of a chance of being dropped by Manny. Honestly, everyone knows that if Pacquiao was in the ring in that second round he would have followed up that shot with about 20 more, and I can honestly say that even with Floyds unblemished record i wouldn't be suprised to see him be KO'ed. Pac has a killers instinct and theres no way he'll let Floyd recover his feet if and when he lands that big shot!

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