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    Default A good article about the HW division!

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    I pretty much agree with this article.

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    Default Re: A good article about the HW division!

    i like it mate and i agree

    all i hear is how crap the heavyweights are at the minute

    they arent, the klits and maybe haye would have lived with any heavyweight of any era, the klits in particular are just so far ahead that its hard to form rivalries at the top

    the second tear of heavyweights would have given fighters like tyson and ali a much tougher test than they do the klits, if tyson and holyfield were around today instead of the klits everyone would be raving about the division

    i think the lack of an american anywhere near the top is a problem, and is what gives the division more of a bad name

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    Default Re: A good article about the HW division!

    I agree, I think the Klits are starting to prove they would be rather dominant in any era except maybe against Lennox Lewis. The more they fight the less I can think of anyone else that I would favor to beat either of them more often than not. I am also trying to remember a heavyweight or even any fighter who has been this dominant over opponents for as long as Wladimir Klitschko has. He has literally been fighting the top opponent available for nearly 5 years and he has barely lost a round.

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    Default Re: A good article about the HW division!

    if them 2 were american the americans would be raving about the HW division

    and yeah, neither of them seem to ever loose a round nowadays and yep they would probably dominate any era

    if only they werent so dull

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    Default Re: A good article about the HW division!

    It's always been my opinion that there are very few really golden eras on Heavyweight boxing. I think perhaps only 2 infact - The era of Ali, Foreman, Frazier & Norton and the era of Holyfield, Bowe, Lewis & Tyson (although they were all at deifferent stages of careers and didn't all fight at thi time) There has always been 1 or 2 dominant fighters and then a lot of average to good contenders. I thnk the 'contenders' in the two era I mentioned were probably better than any other era including the current one. E.G Ray Mercer, Tommy Morrison, Michael Moorer, Razor Ruddock to name a few a far better than today's offering, outside of the Klits!
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    Default Re: A good article about the HW division!

    i dont think you are right

    i think they look worse because the klits are so much better

    they are bigger names but not neccessarily better boxers

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    Default Re: A good article about the HW division!

    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
    It's always been my opinion that there are very few really golden eras on Heavyweight boxing. I think perhaps only 2 infact - The era of Ali, Foreman, Frazier & Norton and the era of Holyfield, Bowe, Lewis & Tyson (although they were all at deifferent stages of careers and didn't all fight at thi time) There has always been 1 or 2 dominant fighters and then a lot of average to good contenders. I thnk the 'contenders' in the two era I mentioned were probably better than any other era including the current one. E.G Ray Mercer, Tommy Morrison, Michael Moorer, Razor Ruddock to name a few a far better than today's offering, outside of the Klits!
    I would argue that a lot of these guys like Peter in shape, Povetkin, Eddie Chambers in shape, Chagaev, Ibragimov would do really well in any era of boxing. I think they could beat a lot of the guys from the 90's, and maybe even guys like Holyfield, Bowe, and Tyson on the right night.

    I think guys like Lewis and the Klitschko brothers are a new breed in boxing that simply have too much size and athleticism for them to lose baring poor preparation or a special punch landing. Wladimir used to be less defensively aware and he used to get caught with stupid punches considering his chin. I don't think its a bad thing he takes his lack of punch durability into account when he fights. Vitali looks awkward as hell, but he is undeniably effective.

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    ...Are you kidding me?

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    Default Re: A good article about the HW division!

    are you kidding me?

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    are you kidding me?
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    Default Re: A good article about the HW division!

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    are you kidding me?
    Let's get to the point...."I know you are but what am I?".....Infinity!
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    ha you cant beat it

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