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    Default Margarito-Pac - Is breeze blocks being underestimated?

    I've noticed a lot of people writing this fight off as a "gimme" for Pac. This has surprised me a bit.

    If you forgive breeze blocks one bad night against Mosley, when quite frankly he shouldn't have been allowed to enter the ring considering he was mentally destroyed literally minutes before the contest, then he is a big bad dangerous welterweight (151lber).

    You should forgive anyone one bad outing. He's had a comeback to blow off the cobwebs and has absolutely NOTHING to lose. He will always be regarded as a dirty cheat, but as boxing is a disgusting business, where just about anything goes, he's been put in a GREAT position.

    He has the ability/size to put Pac under the cosh, no? Is he really a 5/1 dog? I'm not so sure....Thoughts?
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    Default Re: Margarito-Pac - Is breeze blocks being underestimated?

    I rewatched his fight with Cotto last week. I definitely think he's being under-estimated. The way he cut off the ring was awesome. Don't know how much cement he was packing then though so it's hard to tell if he can reproduce that sort of form.

    He's more dangerous than Hatton, De La Hoya and Cotto imo.
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    Default Re: Margarito-Pac - Is breeze blocks being underestimated?

    the thing is it hasn't been one off night, he got wrecked against Mosley then looked like shit against a journeyman (at best) in his last fight, IMO the only way his ass was effective was if he was packing, i don't really thing he brings anything new to the table in terms of what Pacquiao has faced, the main reason i (as well as almost everyone else) feel that Mayweather would whip Pacquiao because he's like no other opponent he's faced, awesome defense quick feet, quick hands and underrated power, if Margarito wasn't as slow as molasses and didn't just plod forward well then maybe more would be giving him a chance, but IMO it's just gonna be a repeat of what Mosley did to him

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    Default Re: Margarito-Pac - Is breeze blocks being underestimated?

    is that katy perry?

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    Default Re: Margarito-Pac - Is breeze blocks being underestimated?

    Quote Originally Posted by mnmc10 View Post
    is that katy perry?

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    Default Re: Margarito-Pac - Is breeze blocks being underestimated?

    Pac hasn't faced a naturally bigger & free swinging non retreating Neanderthal like Margarito. Speed wise its night and day but Margarito brings that natural and current size and range which Manny has not met. I give Clottey size but a hollow chest....Cotto the skill but weight bs and was off two bruising cutting wars . Biggest question is psychological for Margarito off wrap gate and tko to Mosley. He's not new to taking punishment and even being on the floor so I dont think it will phase Tony as much physically. He's always been hit,not news. Mosley was battle tested at weight and bigger then Pac, using Mayorga as a Margarito doppleganger going in. Now has the Pandora's box on his vaunted chin been opened by Shane...remains to be seen. Manny will have to fight one of the most complete fights,in and out as he has to punch in between the volleys. I favor Manny on speed,speed kills and ...but this is not a gimme and he will be hit often like he has not been by a foe not going back wards. Could be brutal as first to back straight will surely have the other atop his chest taking advantage.

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    Default Re: Margarito-Pac - Is breeze blocks being underestimated?

    I agree with all the reasons why Pac should win comfortably. I also agree the loaded gloves could have been a factor in previous fights but that is not 100% certain.

    However, just two fights ago when Margarito had finished smashing Cotto to bits, the idea Pacquiao could have been an opponent for him would have been totally ridiculed. Of course Pac has been a revelation in that time.

    But, again, forgive one bad night (I wouldn't read too much into the comeback fight, the fact it went ten rounds is a bonus) and surely Margarito would be considered the most dangerous opponent Pacquiao has ever faced?
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    Default Re: Margarito-Pac - Is breeze blocks being underestimated?

    Quote Originally Posted by mnmc10 View Post
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    Default Re: Margarito-Pac - Is breeze blocks being underestimated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    I've noticed a lot of people writing this fight off as a "gimme" for Pac. This has surprised me a bit.

    If you forgive breeze blocks one bad night against Mosley, when quite frankly he shouldn't have been allowed to enter the ring considering he was mentally destroyed literally minutes before the contest, then he is a big bad dangerous welterweight (151lber).

    You should forgive anyone one bad outing. He's had a comeback to blow off the cobwebs and has absolutely NOTHING to lose. He will always be regarded as a dirty cheat, but as boxing is a disgusting business, where just about anything goes, he's been put in a GREAT position.

    He has the ability/size to put Pac under the cosh, no? Is he really a 5/1 dog? I'm not so sure....Thoughts?
    Margarito has two chances SLIM and NONE....and SLIM just left town

    I fear for Margarito's health in this fight. He hasn't got a hope in winning, he really hasn't. The thing that worries me in this fight is that Margarito has a great chin and will be pumped up to prove the doubters wrong but he is slow, one paced, doesn't move head and is not huge puncher. So he will just be plodding in and plodding in and pac-man will just be circling him, bombing him and pounding him non stop. I can see a career ending beating for Margarito. I don't think Pac-Man will knock him out...I don't even think he will knock him down. I think either the corner will pull Margarito out or the ref will stop it.

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    Default Re: Margarito-Pac - Is breeze blocks being underestimated?

    Agrees with above.

    Too. Damn. Fast.

    Margarito, much as I like him, will get shredded.
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    Default Re: Margarito-Pac - Is breeze blocks being underestimated?

    Well if you take a look at boxing history, there has never been a fighter after getting his ass whipped like that in the Mosley fight to come back and beat an elite fighter like Pac.

    In fact I'm pretty sure I'm correct when I say that Margarito is a ruined fighter or close to being one. A beating in the Shane Mosley fight takes years off from a fighter.

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    Default Re: Margarito-Pac - Is breeze blocks being underestimated?

    Can't see Margarito winning either. It seems his style was made for Pac to do whatever he wants.

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    Default Re: Margarito-Pac - Is breeze blocks being underestimated?

    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Well if you take a look at boxing history, there has never been a fighter after getting his ass whipped like that in the Mosley fight to come back and beat an elite fighter like Pac.

    In fact I'm pretty sure I'm correct when I say that Margarito is a ruined fighter or close to being one. A beating in the Shane Mosley fight takes years off from a fighter.
    This sounds perfectly understandable but name some fighters you mean? I'd like to take a look at it.
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    Default Re: Margarito-Pac - Is breeze blocks being underestimated?

    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Well if you take a look at boxing history, there has never been a fighter after getting his ass whipped like that in the Mosley fight to come back and beat an elite fighter like Pac.

    In fact I'm pretty sure I'm correct when I say that Margarito is a ruined fighter or close to being one. A beating in the Shane Mosley fight takes years off from a fighter.
    Try Vic Darchinyan. But there's a psyche factor.

    Unlike Marg. Vic never got involve in any scandal.

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    Default Re: Margarito-Pac - Is breeze blocks being underestimated?

    I think this has the potential to be a very difficult fight for Manny. Margarito does a number of things wrong, but only Mosley has really been able to go to town on him. And let's face it, Margarito was most not likely in a very good place considering what went down before the fight. Margarito does pose issues that Manny hasn't dealt with before. Margarito is a big man, throws a LOT of punches and unlike recent opponents who have been known to fade down the stretch, Margarito always gets stronger.

    Pac is an obvious favourite, but I can see Margarito giving him a good go of it.

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