love some thoughts on this vid....

[iceman]

this is more mma geared than true boxing but want some opinions, start watching around the 1:30 mark

[Sharla]

I watched the part where he's demonstrating how to move at angles while keeping his distance.

I thought what he said made sense - ie not crossing your feet over and pushing off the driving foot.

When it actually went down and showed his feet i thought he look a little flat footed on his front leg though? Anyone else see that / get that impression?

I haven't watched much farther in the vid than that - is that the bit you were looking for an opinion on Iceman?

Not the worst vid i've ever seen for sure!

[iceman]

i've trained with him, this is actually from a camp i was at, and he may have dropped his weight but trust me he stays with his weight on the balls of his feet, very smooth mover and very interesting guy, all about the movement . he is also very funny when he talks about guys falling in love with their power.

[Sharla]

i've trained with him, this is actually from a camp i was at, and he may have dropped his weight but trust me he stays with his weight on the balls of his feet, very smooth mover and very interesting guy, all about the movement . he is also very funny when he talks about guys falling in love with their power.

Thinking about it I might be under the impression of a slight optical illusion anyway since he takes small steps with his lead foot. Maybe he isn't flat footed at all - especially since I am the one talking and it seems like i tend to put too much weight on my back foot maybe.

Interesting Iceman. Thanks for putting the vid up. So are you in it? Game enough to fess up to which one you are? Will watch the whole vid later as it does seem interesting.

[iceman]

nope not in this one, i am scattered around the internet and some of the video from this session has me in it, but i couldn't say where i am unless i watched a play by play thing...

[WayneFlint]

I agree with what sharla said, it seems like hes on the front foot too much during the right, the right hand he throws would be a lot better for it being from the back foot because its sloppy as he throws it there on the front and it will be when your dropping onto your front leg with a right anyway, nevermind when your moving your driving foot simultaniousley lol.

It seems like an ok movement to be honest, not brilliant though. the leading jab wasnt bad but the right was terrible, even if only to serve as a decoy punch, which is all it can serve for. the better results in this series of movements i would say would come from most of the weight being on the back foot as sharla said, but you will sacrifice some mobility for the stronger right hand this variation will produce while ever your throwing a right hand moving the lead foot forward at the same time you sacrifice mobility . rather than being on the front foot like he tends to prefer, moving the back foot in as he throws the right hand resulting in a major loss of power and speed in the shot through lack of drive, i wouldnt do it like this either, a good boxer would make a mess of you coming in with such a weak lead as this.

keeping the weight on the back foot allowing drive with the back foot for the right hand for a better shot while sneaking that lead foot forward just a tad for the pivot after the right would be an alternative way to do this movement and probably the way i would choose to do it after being well set up to try and cover the weaknesses it would leave you with.

I could imagine its useful in MMA where boxing might not be a brilliant standard but in boxing i dont think it would cut it, if your leading on a boxer with a 1-2 like this either way it leaves weakness and a good boxer could/will expose them either way you do it, its like leaving it to chance, just hoping your oppenent wont be good enough to expose the movement, fuck that

[Sharla]

I agree with what sharla said, it seems like hes on the front foot too much during the right, the right hand he throws would be a lot better for it being from the back foot because its sloppy as he throws it there on the front and it will be when your dropping onto your front leg with a right anyway, nevermind when your moving your driving foot simultaniousley lol.

It seems like an ok movement to be honest, not brilliant though. the leading jab wasnt bad but the right was terrible, even if only to serve as a decoy punch, which is all it can serve for. the better results in this series of movements i would say would come from most of the weight being on the back foot as sharla said, but you will sacrifice some mobility for the stronger right hand this variation will produce while ever your throwing a right hand moving the lead foot forward at the same time you sacrifice mobility . rather than being on the front foot like he tends to prefer, moving the back foot in as he throws the right hand resulting in a major loss of power and speed in the shot through lack of drive, i wouldnt do it like this either, a good boxer would make a mess of you coming in with such a weak lead as this.

keeping the weight on the back foot allowing drive with the back foot for the right hand for a better shot while sneaking that lead foot forward just a tad for the pivot after the right would be an alternative way to do this movement and probably the way i would choose to do it after being well set up to try and cover the weaknesses it would leave you with.

I could imagine its useful in MMA where boxing might not be a brilliant standard but in boxing i dont think it would cut it, if your leading on a boxer with a 1-2 like this either way it leaves weakness and a good boxer could/will expose them either way you do it, its like leaving it to chance, just hoping your oppenent wont be good enough to expose the movement, fuck that

You just gave me so much more to think about there! I'm going to have to watch it again .......

One comment on the weight - are you proposing having the weight more on the back foot than the front foot or just more than he demonstates?

I've always considered an even distribution of weight over both feet as ideal as much as possible but i'm willing to rethink the idea if i can get my head around when it should be otherwise ....