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    Default Victor Ortiz is heartless!

    this from a big fan of his!!! what the hell was he doing running in those late rounds when he knew peterson couldn't hurt him? i was saying, WTF is he doing? he almost had peterson out early in the fight and just because he got tagged a few times, he reverted to running. after he hurt peterson and put him down twice, he should have went to the body more but instead he let peterson off the hook by running. i seriously cannot see him beating any of the jr. welters champions. very disappointing!!!

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    Default Re: Victor Ortiz is heartless!

    Ortiz is more than happy to dish it out, but once it starts coming back he does like to retreat. Perhaps the Maidana fight is always in the back of his mind. I have never been that excited by Ortiz and have always thought him to be something of a hype job. You have to question how Ortiz will respond to adversity in the future. He likes to smile a lot, but is he actually prepared to grit it out when he needs to? I am not so sure.

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    what i despise about ortiz is that he's too damned nice to his opponents. when they're told to "touch them up" he always smiles like a dork. also, did you see him kissing peterson on the cheek? for me, that was despicable and weak! i especially hate when he had peterson hurt and he started backing up and shuffling for no reason. he had the power to blow peterson away but no, vicky ortiz blew it!

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    Default Re: Victor Ortiz is heartless!

    I thought the draw was a disgrace. Ortiz deserved the win

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    Default Re: Victor Ortiz is heartless!

    violent,

    i also thought ortiz won but damn it, he could have finished peterson and left it out of the hands of those idiotic judges. physically, i think ortiz has it all but ever since the maidana fight, i can see he's been a little hesitant to try to finish his opponents when he has them in trouble. if he doesn't have it mentally 100%, he'll never win a title. but he's still young and he can still improve.

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    Default Re: Victor Ortiz is heartless!

    Vic definitely is built like a tank comparing fight night weights with both Khan and Maidana who were 149 lbs tonight while Vic was 156 lbs.
    Vic has it all like you said speed, power, size and skill on his side just lacks the killer instinct I guess but that is something that can be developed so no worries. I want Nice kid Ortiz to destroy his bully counterpart in Brandon Rios.
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    Default Re: Victor Ortiz is heartless!

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    I thought the draw was a disgrace. Ortiz deserved the win
    I thought so too, but wtf is up with Ortiz man. He was smiling about the draw? This kid is too soft for his own good. Maybe he is in the wrong sports. I like the guy but last night was disappointing. I dont think his chinny but he retreats like he is. I think he gots a lot of skills but doesn't have the mental toughness to put it all together.

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    Default Re: Victor Ortiz is heartless!

    I really like Ortiz. To label the kid heartless when you consider all of the obstacles he has had to overcome just to get into the ring is an example why armchair warriors are generally held with contempt and considered as cretins by those who truly like and respect the sport.

    Ortiz was brutally stopped by Maidana and it's obviously affected his confidence. He could definitely have imposed himself more but he the reason he didn't win was because of the worst judging fix since Juan Guzman somehow drew with Ali Funeka last year.

    He won the fight. His gameplan worked. He was just robbed by a disgraceful judging decision.

    I do question Ortiz's ability to go into the trenches however. He would not have made it out of the 10th round against Maidana like Khan did last night imo. Khan's heart is phenomenal, I think Ortiz seems to see boxing more as a sport than life and death and isn't willing to die in the ring or risk his long term health.

    Is that wrong really? I don't know. But he is humble, exciting and a nice guy of the sport and I would never hate on him for it.

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    Default Re: Victor Ortiz is heartless!

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    I thought the draw was a disgrace. Ortiz deserved the win
    Exactly. A draw was nonsense. Ortiz won more rounds and had a 10-7 round.

    Ortiz def let off the gas pedal and coasted to victory which was disapointing but he won that fight.

    Peterson showed a ton of heart but no way he did enough to earn a draw.
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