Does Pacquiao deserve all the hate???

[hardcore_crash]

Simple question.
Is it all justified?

[Spicoli]

Didn't have time to wrap em

[hardcore_crash]

Not too sure what those Kleenex are for; but my intentions are not to create a Pacquiao bash thread, not at all.

[generalbulldog]

I'm going to kick back and watch this bait thread erupt between Milmascaras, Hornfinger, Miles, and Tysonbruno to battle it out against Bilbo, PSL, and a few other Pacquiao fans.

As Buffer, would say, "Let's get readyyyyyyyyyyyy to Rummmmmmmmmmmmble!"

[Violent Demise]

Any fighter that uses performing enhancing drugs deserves the hate. It's that simple. And before anyone responds with the lame "he's never tested dirty" excuse need not bother. He hasn't tested dirty cuz he refused the sophisticated testing.

[levi#1BoxingFan]

Any fighter that uses performing enhancing drugs deserves the hate. It's that simple. And before anyone responds with the lame "he's never tested dirty" excuse need not bother. He hasn't tested dirty cuz he refused the sophisticated testing.

If someone randomly accused you of taking illegal drugs, would you go out of your way and jump threw hoops to have to prove to them your not? I wouldn't. Ya I realize he's a proffessional athlete but still. This is just a dead horse that Pacquiao haters will continue to beat as long a he is successful.

[Dizaster]

I'm going to kick back and watch this bait thread erupt between Milmascaras, Hornfinger, Miles, and Tysonbruno to battle it out against Bilbo, PSL, and a few other Pacquiao fans.

As Buffer, would say, "Let's get readyyyyyyyyyyyy to Rummmmmmmmmmmmble!"

This thread has a threat of becoming quite political so we can count Miles out... Unless Bilbo has managed to corrupt him in the 24 hours since I was last hear... But I think he'll still be on the wagon for a week or two yet.


As the for the thread title, it's entirely subjective whether you think he deserves the hate or not....

Everything he's done since 135 is just AMAZING if you take into account the boxing norm... He's fought the fighters who were THE most recognized over the past 4 years (aside from Floyd)... And beat them all well....
The funny thing is, the people who he beat are responsible for the downfall of the others he beat... He didn't get that much credit for beating Cotto because Margarito beat him.... He didn't get the credit for Margarito because Mosley beat him.. He won't the credit for Mosley because Mayweather beat him...

The fact is he did great things against people who would still beat the rest of their division... But at the same time, argument can be made that there are more dangerous, younger, hungrier fights he could have fought.. But no one knows whether he would have destroyed them all the same, or even more....

You just really have the facts there, and if that doesn't win certain people over, then they are entitled to say they are not very impressed with what he's done...

If he fought everyone except Cotto, people would be saying he should fight Cotto otherwise he's avoiding them. or Ricky, or Margarito... The fact is he went through them all..
If someone wants to play those guys down as "done", then I really don't personally think that's fair considering they are still top of their divisions...

But the only way he'll get credit is beating Mayweather or fighting Martinez or something at 154.... Same as Mayweather really, he didn't step up to a new challenge/weight so he still has his bashers now.....

It's all subjective, but we'd be having the same discussion if he'd stopped at 135 and just cleared that out.. The fact he's fought a huge guy at 150 pounds instead of staying at 135 is enough to win me over and most people who are really fans of boxing in general....

But others, they want you to be incredibly outstanding every time out there, or you don't deserve shit for credit...

[Mattyhitman]

No !

In some people eye's though he will never get credit till he either fights Floyd, or submits to Floyds requests and completes the drug testing he wants him to do.

Regardless who he has fought in the last 4yrs it will mean jack because of the drug claims some will label him with.

[paddy448]

Simple question.
Is it all justified?

To keep it short and simple after taking everything into account, I would say no. Maybe his team sometimes deserves a little. But Pacman, no I don't think so. The guy is nothing short of a phenomanon. How many fighters do we see that can do the things he can do. I think this fellow should be appreciated while he's around. Because it could be along time before we see a fighter as dynamic and simply breathtaking as this guy

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Simple question.
Is it all justified?

What hate