Who would have beaten a prime Whitaker?

[generalbulldog]

I've watched almost all of his fights except his last 2 where he soundly lost. But in his prime the man's defense and boxing skills was something to behold. Sweetpea never lost in his prime, I don't count the robbery in the Ramirez fight as a loss especially since most have him winning anywhere from 8-10 rounds. And I'm talking about his prime from 1984-1994, from LW to WW.

IMO in boxing history it would be an extremely hard task to have beaten that prime version. But for fun who could have beaten him or made it extremely competitive? Duran? Leonard? Hearns? Mayweather? Trinidad? Pacquiao? Chavez at 135 or 140?

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Aaron Pryor

[C-Lo]

The same who beat him in real life, the judges

[Master]

At lightweight only Duran stood a chance. At the higher weights probably more of the greats like SRL, SRR, Hearns but he was really unbeaten for many years, probably until ODH.

[Taeth]

I think mayweather beats at any weight they occupy, he's harder to hit, faster, bigger, and he works harder. He's simply better than Whitaker.

Duran also likely beats him, Whitaker couldn't move like Leonard did, and Duran would just go to the body and make an ugly inside fight, but he's bigger and better than jcc.

Leonard and hearns I think they beat him because both are excellent fighters with a huge size advantage while both are also faster than him.

Aaron Pryor and pacquiao both best whitaker because they have to great a combination of speed, output and pressure.

I've watched a lot of Whitaker, and he's one of my favorites, but he simply relied on his reflexes far too much, the actual technique needed against a lot of these guys' speed simply isn't there, and he didn't control the ring the same way a lot these guys did.

[ElTerribleMorales]

I think mayweather beats at any weight they occupy, he's harder to hit, faster, bigger, and he works harder. He's simply better than Whitaker.

Duran also likely beats him, Whitaker couldn't move like Leonard did, and Duran would just go to the body and make an ugly inside fight, but he's bigger and better than jcc.

Leonard and hearns I think they beat him because both are excellent fighters with a huge size advantage while both are also faster than him.

Aaron Pryor and pacquiao both best whitaker because they have to great a combination of speed, output and pressure.

I've watched a lot of Whitaker, and he's one of my favorites, but he simply relied on his reflexes far too much, the actual technique needed against a lot of these guys' speed simply isn't there, and he didn't control the ring the same way a lot these guys did.

surprise surprise Taeth once again making it seem as if no one in the history of the sport could beat Mayweather...

[bzkfn]

I think mayweather beats at any weight they occupy, he's harder to hit, faster, bigger, and he works harder. He's simply better than Whitaker.

Duran also likely beats him, Whitaker couldn't move like Leonard did, and Duran would just go to the body and make an ugly inside fight, but he's bigger and better than jcc.

Leonard and hearns I think they beat him because both are excellent fighters with a huge size advantage while both are also faster than him.

Aaron Pryor and pacquiao both best whitaker because they have to great a combination of speed, output and pressure.

I've watched a lot of Whitaker, and he's one of my favorites, but he simply relied on his reflexes far too much, the actual technique needed against a lot of these guys' speed simply isn't there, and he didn't control the ring the same way a lot these guys did.

surprise surprise Taeth once again making it seem as if no one in the history of the sport could beat Mayweather...

I've never seen Taeth do this, but in this case I have to agree with him. Whitaker had superb defensive skills, but Mayweather simply works harder and possesses better offensive skills than Pernell and would have taken a judges decision had they have fought.

[ElTerribleMorales]

I think mayweather beats at any weight they occupy, he's harder to hit, faster, bigger, and he works harder. He's simply better than Whitaker.

Duran also likely beats him, Whitaker couldn't move like Leonard did, and Duran would just go to the body and make an ugly inside fight, but he's bigger and better than jcc.

Leonard and hearns I think they beat him because both are excellent fighters with a huge size advantage while both are also faster than him.

Aaron Pryor and pacquiao both best whitaker because they have to great a combination of speed, output and pressure.

I've watched a lot of Whitaker, and he's one of my favorites, but he simply relied on his reflexes far too much, the actual technique needed against a lot of these guys' speed simply isn't there, and he didn't control the ring the same way a lot these guys did.

surprise surprise Taeth once again making it seem as if no one in the history of the sport could beat Mayweather...

I've never seen Taeth do this, but in this case I have to agree with him. Whitaker had superb defensive skills, but Mayweather simply works harder and possesses better offensive skills than Pernell and would have taken a judges decision had they have fought.

just read most of his posts where he mentions Mayweather in nearly everyone of them, he builds him to be the #1 ATG fighter in the history of the sport

[bzkfn]

I think mayweather beats at any weight they occupy, he's harder to hit, faster, bigger, and he works harder. He's simply better than Whitaker.

Duran also likely beats him, Whitaker couldn't move like Leonard did, and Duran would just go to the body and make an ugly inside fight, but he's bigger and better than jcc.

Leonard and hearns I think they beat him because both are excellent fighters with a huge size advantage while both are also faster than him.

Aaron Pryor and pacquiao both best whitaker because they have to great a combination of speed, output and pressure.

I've watched a lot of Whitaker, and he's one of my favorites, but he simply relied on his reflexes far too much, the actual technique needed against a lot of these guys' speed simply isn't there, and he didn't control the ring the same way a lot these guys did.

surprise surprise Taeth once again making it seem as if no one in the history of the sport could beat Mayweather...

I've never seen Taeth do this, but in this case I have to agree with him. Whitaker had superb defensive skills, but Mayweather simply works harder and possesses better offensive skills than Pernell and would have taken a judges decision had they have fought.

just read most of his posts where he mentions Mayweather in nearly everyone of them, he builds him to be the #1 ATG fighter in the history of the sport

Fair enough. I've seen him post bout plenty of other things though, he's hardly a Xadu is he? I don't think any fighter in the history of the sport would have beaten a prime Roy Jones Jr. It's all opinion.

[Taeth]

I think mayweather beats at any weight they occupy, he's harder to hit, faster, bigger, and he works harder. He's simply better than Whitaker.

Duran also likely beats him, Whitaker couldn't move like Leonard did, and Duran would just go to the body and make an ugly inside fight, but he's bigger and better than jcc.

Leonard and hearns I think they beat him because both are excellent fighters with a huge size advantage while both are also faster than him.

Aaron Pryor and pacquiao both best whitaker because they have to great a combination of speed, output and pressure.

I've watched a lot of Whitaker, and he's one of my favorites, but he simply relied on his reflexes far too much, the actual technique needed against a lot of these guys' speed simply isn't there, and he didn't control the ring the same way a lot these guys did.

surprise surprise Taeth once again making it seem as if no one in the history of the sport could beat Mayweather...

I've never seen Taeth do this, but in this case I have to agree with him. Whitaker had superb defensive skills, but Mayweather simply works harder and possesses better offensive skills than Pernell and would have taken a judges decision had they have fought.

just read most of his posts where he mentions Mayweather in nearly everyone of them, he builds him to be the #1 ATG fighter in the history of the sport

I don't think he's the greatest, but I think he's up there, as he should be. Just like RJJ should as well. It's ignorant people who think guys who they have barely seen in their lives are way better that should have their heads' checked. Most people have a p4p list who consist of guys who largely were never filmed in full bouts and nearly never near their prime yet they idolize them to no limit. Like Ray Robinson, there isn't enough full fights when he was at his best against his best opponents to really establish how good he was. Let alone Wille Pep, Benny Leonard, Sam Langford, Henry Armstrong, etc, etc. People hypothisize here and there, but they really don't know how these guys actually looked in the ring at their best. And the guys like Leonard, Hagler, Ali, and Duran are so insurmountable in the minds of some that a guy could far vastly outachieve what any of them did like Pacquiao has done, and still all these new guys get is hate from people like ElTerribleMorales

Just for example, just ask who is better Hopkins or Hagler, or who has the better legacy. JCC or guys like Barrera, Morales and/or JMM. I think in a few years time people will realize who has actually done more than who.

[Taeth]

I think mayweather beats at any weight they occupy, he's harder to hit, faster, bigger, and he works harder. He's simply better than Whitaker.

Duran also likely beats him, Whitaker couldn't move like Leonard did, and Duran would just go to the body and make an ugly inside fight, but he's bigger and better than jcc.

Leonard and hearns I think they beat him because both are excellent fighters with a huge size advantage while both are also faster than him.

Aaron Pryor and pacquiao both best whitaker because they have to great a combination of speed, output and pressure.

I've watched a lot of Whitaker, and he's one of my favorites, but he simply relied on his reflexes far too much, the actual technique needed against a lot of these guys' speed simply isn't there, and he didn't control the ring the same way a lot these guys did.

surprise surprise Taeth once again making it seem as if no one in the history of the sport could beat Mayweather...

I think he compete with anyone around his weightclass in the history of the sport, but I think he can be beaten. I just don't think Whitaker would be the guy to do it. He's outgunned in every facet, just go look at the stats he was hit far more than Floyd. I think guys like hearns and Leonard and Robinson could definitely beat Floyd, but I think he could beat them as well. Is there any harm in that?

[Master]

Very good body puncher and awkward and hard to hit, think he beats Mayweather at lightweight.

[generalbulldog]

Very good body puncher and awkward and hard to hit, think he beats Mayweather at lightweight.

I feel the same way, the only one that has a chance like you've said is Duran at LW.

[X]

Don't forget Willie Pep. Battle of the master boxers ..... but with Sweet Pea's superior conditioning going up against Pep's toughness too.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

I think mayweather beats at any weight they occupy, he's harder to hit, faster, bigger, and he works harder. He's simply better than Whitaker.

Duran also likely beats him, Whitaker couldn't move like Leonard did, and Duran would just go to the body and make an ugly inside fight, but he's bigger and better than jcc.

Leonard and hearns I think they beat him because both are excellent fighters with a huge size advantage while both are also faster than him.

Aaron Pryor and pacquiao both best whitaker because they have to great a combination of speed, output and pressure.

I've watched a lot of Whitaker, and he's one of my favorites, but he simply relied on his reflexes far too much, the actual technique needed against a lot of these guys' speed simply isn't there, and he didn't control the ring the same way a lot these guys did.

I actually had to CC this post, hard to fault it really.