Nonito Donaire vs Jorge Arce

[JazzWolf]

This fight has just struck my mind like a thunder bolt now that The Flash is set to ascend in weight, opening up a whole new level of competition. Nonito has talked of Jorge Arce before on a personal level, but its unknown if his promoters have the Mexican beast in their sights. IMO, I think it would be one hell of a bout. Donaire is the fastest and most dangerous offensive fighter out there while Arce is the most aggressive and relentless lightweight pressure fighter I've ever seen since prime Marco A. Barrera. This fight definitely won't happen soon, but I got an ominous feeling that it is approaching in the far future, like the storm that will hit the east coast tomorrow.

What do you guys think? And how do you think this clash would go?



"El Tigre/Travieso" Arce


"The Flash" Donaire

[gest12645]

Donaire would be just too fast and Arce is way past his prime. Donaire destroys Arce

[JazzWolf]

I was kinda thinking the same and based on Jorge's performance in his recent fights and the caliber of his opponents, he's either slowing down or cruising right now. Wouldn't count him out completely though, he's 31 years old, given he's had a lot of fights; I'm gonna wait to see his fight against Wilfredo to tell how much he's still got. If he's still the raging beast that leveled so many fighters, I think he'd really challenge Donaire, who hasn't faced the kind of durability and menacing pressure in Arce.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Vazquez Jr is gonna wreck Arce so don't see how a Donaire/Arce matchup is intriguing at all

[:::PSL:::]

Arce is never the same after Darchinyan destroyed him.

[JazzWolf]

You can't count out Arce like that (is a die hard fan D'<). The dynamic of a beast Mexican fighter doesn't die that easily.
I see an underdog Arce giving Vasquez a run for his rep.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Arce is never the same after Darchinyan destroyed him.

Arce was already on the slide before even facing Darchinyan

[bzkfn]

Vazquez Jr is gonna wreck Arce so don't see how a Donaire/Arce matchup is intriguing at all

This. Vazquez Jr. will retire Arce. He's too big and Arce will hang em up after this. He said last year was going to be his last but wins over mediocre opposition and a Super-Flyweight Title made him believe he had more to offer. So why oh why jump 2 weight divisions to fight a young, undefeated, future superstar? He's too macho for his own good at times.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Vazquez Jr is gonna wreck Arce so don't see how a Donaire/Arce matchup is intriguing at all

This. Vazquez Jr. will retire Arce. He's too big and Arce will hang em up after this. He said last year was going to be his last but wins over mediocre opposition and a Super-Flyweight Title made him believe he had more to offer. So why oh why jump 2 weight divisions to fight a young, undefeated, future superstar? He's too macho for his own good at times.

exactly, Donaire needs to clean up 118 and IMO nobody would be able to dispute his place on the p4p list if he does so cause it's a very deep division, Donaire/Agbeko would probably be a lot more competitive than most think, and although i really like Mares his defense is leaking and Agbeko is probably gonna take advantage with his fast hands and precise punching, but i'd say it goes by decision, either way as long as all the best at 118 fight each other it's turning out to be a hot division IMO just as good as 140 right now

[Mars_ax]

Donaire would be just too fast and Arce is way past his prime. Donaire destroys Arce

Ditto, I would not want to see this fight, it would be a total mismatch.

[JazzWolf]

There's always that chance that Arce could land that "one punch" on Donaire, but I'd have to admit that he would probably suffer through hell before it. But there's just something about Arce that makes me gun for him; his self sacrificing style and the never-back-down spirit that he pits behind every punch. Those two traits blow the textbook out the window and seem to give him a chance at anytime against anyone.

I vote Jorge Arce in recent form with War Hawk Cortez as ref.

[Julius Rain]

There's always that chance that Arce could land that "one punch" on Donaire, but I'd have to admit that he would probably suffer through hell before it. But there's just something about Arce that makes me gun for him; his self sacrificing style and the never-back-down spirit that he pits behind every punch. Those two traits blow the textbook out the window and seem to give him a chance at anytime against anyone.

I vote Jorge Arce in recent form with War Hawk Cortez as ref.

Arce doesn't even have a punchers chance bud.

[CutMeMick]

Arce would have gotten beat then and he'd get beat now....
Nonito is a beast way too fast if Montiel couldn't handle him Arce doesn't stand a chance in hell.

The only version of Arce that stands a chance was the 2005/2006 version of him.

Arce had some exciting fights but he was garbage. He was a bit like Gatti, exciting but even less skilled.

Donaire would treat him like a sparring partner.

Really Julius... Arce is garbage.
A garbage fighter is a WBO Light Fly champ, WBC Light Fly champ 7 defenses, WBC Interim Fly champ (the Interim bullshit was because a real garbage of a fighter by the name of PongsaShit refused to fight him) and I wont even bother listing the WBO Super Fly title because that shit was pulled out of someones ass Angkot nor did Arce had any business being in that ring fighting for that title.
Now he just won the WBO Super Bantam title off a young undefeated champ.
It's not just that he's won titles but he's fought top opposition since the begining of his career 1996. Darchiyan, Carbajal, Romero, Gamboa, Burgos, Cordoba, Alvarez, Rubillar, Choi, Hussein, Castro, Mijares, Rojas, Castillo and now Vasquez Jr.
I'm not claiming Arce as an ATG but garbage he's not. He's an excellent body puncher and he could actually box really well as seen in his bout vs. Carbajal among others.
I've often said that the lower weights need to be looked at differently then the higher weights. Remember that in the lower weights careers tend to be shorter, which means you can have only 10 fights but already be a top contender and or a champ. Careers aren't build up as much as other weight classes. I mean for example Eagle Junlaphan considered one of the best just 18-2, Yutaka Niida 23-2-3, Hideyuki Ohashi 19-5, Zolani Petelo 17-5-2, Yoko Gushiken 23-1, Chan-Hee Park 17-4-2, Sung-Kil Moon 20-2 to name a few. These are guys who are p4p some of the best from the lower weights. Sure the records don't stand a chance in comparison by numbers to those of Duran, Arguello, JCC and Monzon but again that's because things are different with the small guys.
Arce's record stands at 57-6-2 with titles and big names. His best weight class was Light Fly and for me he's somewhere in the top 6 of that weight class along with Gonzalez, Carbajal, Zapata, Chang & Yuh.

And I agree with the 2nd part of your post. Donaire would quite possibly send him into retirement.

nonito would catch arce with a punch that would probably knock darchiniyan back out.

That made me laugh...