Fu##ing WBC!

[Dropanuke]

I feel sorry for Ryan Rhodes as he gets to the top and the boxing world shits on him, hatton will get squashed against Alvarez and Rhodes would have won the belt in this fight
Pisses me off

[Master]

Agreed Alvarez v Rhodes would have been much better fight.

[:::PSL:::]

JMM is POed about Alvarez getting a title shot so quick.

The latest person on Marquez's hit list is undefeated junior middleweight Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez, who is in line for his first crack at a world title when he goes for the vacant WBC junior middleweight scrap against tough-but-limited Brit Matthew Hatton. Alvarez is a promising talent with an efficient and debilitating attack, yet the 20-year old still has much room to grow. The title become up for grabs after it's champion Manny Pacquiao, who had dominated Antonio Margarito for the belt last November, declared he was going to campaign at 147 pounds or less for his future endeavors.

It took Marquez six and a half years and 31 fights before he was able to vie for his first world title, a disputed decision loss to then-WBA featherweight champion Freddie Norwood at the Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas, and he had to come up the hard way in facing a wide range of capable opposition without much exposure. Garnering somewhat of a cult following along the West Coast in his early years, it is obviously hard for Marquez to see a youngster like Alvarez get such a leisurely shot while still fresh into his career.

"That really sucks," Marquez said. "I am speaking as a fighter and for the fighters that are ranked. They work very hard to get in the rankings and all of a sudden this kid is the number one contender because he has the silver belt? Come on, what about Perro Angulo? What about the English guy who is ranked number 4? What about Vanes? And now you give him Hatton, who isn't even ranked in the super welterweight division. It took me a lot of years to get a title shot that is why I am speaking as a fighter."

Alvarez was granted this opportunity after Oscar De La Hoya, president of Golden Boy Promotions who oversee 'Canelo', approached WBC president Jose Suliaman with a request on behalf of his fighter. Despite there being a wealth of talent in the WBC's top fifteen junior middleweight rankings, Suliaman gave the nod to Hatton, ranked #5 on the WBC's welterweight ladder.

This line of thinking has also ticked off Marquez's trainer Nacho Beristain.

"This is total BS," Beristain unloaded. "Suliaman owns the WBC, everyone knows that, and I am happy to get his opportunity to say this to his face. Why don't you help Angulo get a visa, when you have done it in the past for many fighters. You have the power to do it, this is ridiculous. This kid Canelo has talent but he is too green to get a title shot. He hasn't beaten any contenders yet and Hatton? What has he done? Nothing at all. He is not even a decent fighter."

Giving his take on matters, Suliaman insisted that other ideal candidates were simply not available for such a shot. The 79-year old also took a few parting shots at Marquez, claiming that he was jealous of Alvarez's newfound opportunity and growing fame.

Such theories didn't sit too well with the tried and true champion.

"I don't envy anyone because I am on my way out," Marquez lashed out. "I am a current champion who takes on anyone, and I'm a champion in three weight classes. What can I be jealous of?"

Juan Manuel Marquez disgusted that 'kid' Saul Alvarez is getting WBC title shot - Las Vegas boxing | Examiner.com

[Spicoli]

Its one thing to get a shot so early and lightly tested but to also have it seem a literal set up, the fight just a formality (see Berto's trinket win) is another thing. I just dont think it does a fighter anygood and it short changes them when they have to mature on higher championship level. Not to mention it screws other more deserving guys.

[Kev]

Its one thing to get a shot so early and lightly tested but to also have it seem a literal set up, the fight just a formality (see Berto's trinket win) is another thing. I just dont think it does a fighter anygood and it short changes them when they have to mature on higher championship level. Not to mention it screws other more deserving guys.

To be fair the matchup was made first, it was only after the fight was made that the WBC let it be for a title shot.

People have got it about face, if they are thinking Alvarez got the title shot arranged first, and then handpicked an opponent.

The matchup was already made.

[Master]

Its one thing to get a shot so early and lightly tested but to also have it seem a literal set up, the fight just a formality (see Berto's trinket win) is another thing. I just dont think it does a fighter anygood and it short changes them when they have to mature on higher championship level. Not to mention it screws other more deserving guys.

To be fair the matchup was made first, it was only after the fight was made that the WBC let it be for a title shot.

People have got it about face, if they are thinking Alvarez got the title shot arranged first, and then handpicked an opponent.

The matchup was already made.

that is the point it should not be for the title.

[Spicoli]

Its one thing to get a shot so early and lightly tested but to also have it seem a literal set up, the fight just a formality (see Berto's trinket win) is another thing. I just dont think it does a fighter anygood and it short changes them when they have to mature on higher championship level. Not to mention it screws other more deserving guys.

To be fair the matchup was made first, it was only after the fight was made that the WBC let it be for a title shot.

People have got it about face, if they are thinking Alvarez got the title shot arranged first, and then handpicked an opponent.

The matchup was already made.

Thats even worse really. Sounds like one hand washing the other between Oscar and Arum. Its a parlor trick to me but then again they have always played musical chairs with the rankings. In an ideal world....reality....#1 and #2 should meet for vacant strap.

[Ant Live]

Saul could be a good fighter. But IMO, is should be fighting top ten guys before getting a shot at the title. It's other that deserve a shot before he does. Not to mention, before Hatton do.
BTW, Saul challenge JMM after this fight. I hope JMM don't dumb up and accept this challenge. JMM was said to be to small for Mayweather at 147, in which I'm of the opinion that Mayweather's skill was just superior more then size. But 154, JMM will get KO'ed and retired against Alvarez. At that size, the skill set of JMM could end with one punch.

[Dropanuke]

Personally I would rather c Ryan Rhodes fight. He isn't as sloppy and unrefined but that's my opinion

[0james0]

The problem is that everyone is powerless to stop it and the fighters involved certainly aren't going to turn away a world title shot.

They've essentially turned that title into a Mickey Mouse one with the two most recent fights. The Pac fight was a joke and so is this one. Rankings mean nothing.

The only way to stop it is through the fighters, us fans will watch anything for the chance of a good scrap. Fighters would need to boycott organisations and make their titles worthless.

[Kev]

The problem is that everyone is powerless to stop it and the fighters involved certainly aren't going to turn away a world title shot.

They've essentially turned that title into a Mickey Mouse one with the two most recent fights. The Pac fight was a joke and so is this one. Rankings mean nothing.

The only way to stop it is through the fighters, us fans will watch anything for the chance of a good scrap. Fighters would need to boycott organisations and make their titles worthless.

There are four titles per weight class, rankings do mean nothing.

You can argue about fairness, but from a purely pragmatic standpoint, it's better to have a potential glamour boy and future star holding a belt than a mid 30's mediocre Brit with no future.

The light middleweight division is devoid of any exciting champions right now and so I guess they are manouvering to try and get one established.

One of the ironies however is that most people would agree Alvarez is a far better prospect, and a better potential world champion than Ryan Rhodes and some of the other contenders.

You are in effect claiming that the belts would be more credible if worse fighters got their shots.

I've never understood this. All those who clamoured against Manny and Margarito, two of the most established fighters today, fighting for a world title saying they weren't worthy.

Well if you go by rankings you will have guys like Ryan Rhodes and K9 Bundrage as world champs.

How that gives more credibility and integrity to the sport is completely beyond me

[Spicoli]

The Networks should be called on just as the alphabet boyz. They attach a meaningless belt to a terrible match up and call it championship worthy. I dont exactly have a huge problem with Alvarez fighting for the belt.....its hatton as an opponent and fact that he's leapfrogging much more serious contenders to get there on the premier network. HBO has aired trinket mismatches alll the time.

Berto fought and 'earned' the WBC welter trinket vs undeserving Micky Rodriquez....aired on HBO.
Three obscure fights and three years prior the same Rodriquez lost vs Baldo....for the very same WBC belt.

Shit Think my bigger problem is this being a main event on HBO then a set up for Alvarez. I mean we already know the belts dont mean crap.