What boxer has been in with the toughest competition and has come away the best?
Not with 20/20 hindsight, I mean at the time of each fight.
Manny Pacquiao clearly must be up. Carl Froch must be up there. Sergio Martinez must be up there. Who else?
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What boxer has been in with the toughest competition and has come away the best?
Not with 20/20 hindsight, I mean at the time of each fight.
Manny Pacquiao clearly must be up. Carl Froch must be up there. Sergio Martinez must be up there. Who else?
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Floyd Jr. With the exception of the Marquez fight his last 5 opponents were given a good chance to beat him. From Baldomir was too big and a natural welter to Ricky Hatton was undefeated to Shane Mosley was his toughest opponent to his big fight with Oscar, etc.
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I'd say Sergio Martinez tops them out. Kermit Cintron,Paul Williams twice,Kelly Pavlik, and now Dziniruk. That is some pretty tough company.
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Sorry butchered it. Dzinziruk.
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Hindsight being what it is. Martinez...Bradley ??
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I agree with Pac and Martinez. But not with Floyd cuz he was overweight when he fought JMM.
Difinitely not the Clit brothers.
I was about to say JML. But he had the Mtagwa (which he was to suppose to win easily) and Lontchi.
I can't pick Montiel either cuz he fought Ciso Morales in his last 5 fights.
Goshdarn it. Why does it have to be "last 5 times out"? Lol.
I'll go with Pac, Martinez, and...
JMM
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Floyd?....
Who picked Baldo over Floyd? Hatton was slipping long before he faced Floyd and though he won titles at WW he was given gift decisions and made his career there hit then hold hit then hold....No to mention his defense was tailor made not just for Floyd but any defensive fighter.....JMM had what 1 fight at LW before Floyd fought him and Floyd did not even come in on weight.....Oscar never beat a fighter who was P4P ranked in their prime his whole career....He could have beaten Floyd if he did not pull another Trinidad moment where he stopped fighting thinking he was up enough on the cards....Mosley was the most legit threat out of the 5
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I gotta go with Carl Froch. All went the distance against top quality fighters, three of which were wars:
Agree with PSL too, JMM has had a tough five fights. He'd be second behind Froch in my opinion.
Yea Froch has to be at the top for me.
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Joshua Clottey and Margarito were not elite fighters at the time Pac fought them, not to mentioned Cotto was at a catchweight and on the downside, De La Hoya shot to pieces and weight drain, Hatton didn't have his chin anymore. See it's pretty easy to tear down a fighter's accomplishment is it?
People want to tear down Floyd's accomplishments, but at the time those fighters with the exception of JMM were threats. Hindsight is really something right?
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I don't agree with JMM because he was utterly destroyed by Floyd and then has fought Kastidis, who is admirable and tough (i'm a fan) but not that great, and Diaz, who is simply not that good. Floyd fighting Hatton at 147 when Hatton's prime weight was 140 is questionable. It's a good win, but it's not great. It's like Hopkin's win over Pavlik, it's a good win, but it's not great because Pavlik had to move up in weight to fight him. And Floyd's win over Hatton was completely expected whereas many people had Bernard going into that fight as the underdog. Same goes for his win over JMM. It's not like Floyd was fighting at 140 for years and then recently moved up to 147. He was a welterweight fighting a junior welterweight and a welterweight fighting a lightweight. The rest of his wins are solid.
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Sorry but I don't play the fanboy/Hater game so you are confusing me with someone else......What did I post that was not true?....Baldo was the favorite going in that fight?....What was the scoring of the DLH fight?....Did he not come in over weight for JMM?...Has he not fought a minimal amount of times in 4 yrs?...Was Mosley not the most legit threat in those last 5 fights?...Considering he was the WW champ after his destruction of Margarito?....What {P4P fighter has Oscar beaten in thier primes?....Did DLH not stop using his jab in rd 10 - 12? did he not make the same mistake in the Trinidad fight?...Did Hatton not struggle at WW against fighters half the talent then Floyd?....Was he not given a gift over Collazzo?....C'Mon man get rid of the stupid kid shit and stick with facts.....
As for Froch yes many including myself expected him to lose many of the fights he won but somehow he came out on top....I liken him to Calzaghe in that aspect.....Everytime you think he will lose he finds a way to prove you wrong.....
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How is Floyde anymore of a true welterweight then Pac I mean the man highest weight fight night has been like 150 pac is 148. Neither are true welterweights and there last outings are the against almost the same exact people. Anyhow i guess if i had to go with top guys its Froch or maybe Martinaz.
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