If David Haye loses to Vitali in July...

[boxingbantz]

(I am 99% certain that Wladimir will still say he has an abdominal injury and can't be fit in time for the fight) will he still retire in October?

It dawned on me this morning whilst reading about the fights. He seems certain he will unify the division and go out at the top but what happens if Vitali smashes him to bits (which I am convinced he does) - then he has no hope of becoming the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world and would end up as 'just another ABC belt holder'. Would he retire or demand a rematch with Vitali?

[ono]

(I am 99% certain that Wladimir will still say he has an abdominal injury and can't be fit in time for the fight) will he still retire in October?

It dawned on me this morning whilst reading about the fights. He seems certain he will unify the division and go out at the top but what happens if Vitali smashes him to bits (which I am convinced he does) - then he has no hope of becoming the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world and would end up as 'just another ABC belt holder'. Would he retire or demand a rematch with Vitali?

He'd retire and go into acting (porn) with Robin Reid.

[erics44]

(I am 99% certain that Wladimir will still say he has an abdominal injury and can't be fit in time for the fight) will he still retire in October?

It dawned on me this morning whilst reading about the fights. He seems certain he will unify the division and go out at the top but what happens if Vitali smashes him to bits (which I am convinced he does) - then he has no hope of becoming the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world and would end up as 'just another ABC belt holder'. Would he retire or demand a rematch with Vitali?

i dunno what would happen but i think you seem to be starting to agree with me on wlad

[El Kabong]

Wlad will fight him, beat him....the then FORMER WBA title holder will probably fight Chisora in England and then retire

[erics44]

Wlad will fight him, beat him....the then FORMER WBA title holder will probably fight Chisora in England and then retire

i think your world is falling appart

what a disapointment that big russian homo is

[Syntax Error]

Win, lose or draw, David Haye ain't going to retire in October IMHO.

There's too mcuh money for Haye to be made right now, for him to walk away, especially as he hasn't even cemented his legacy yet.

All this retirement talk is just a ruse I believe.

[El Kabong]

Wlad will fight him, beat him....the then FORMER WBA title holder will probably fight Chisora in England and then retire

i think your world is falling appart

what a disapointment that big russian homo is

Do you...do you really?

In all honesty Wlad should already have the WBA belt because he beat Chagaev...but it doesn't matter, Wlad will beat the usurper of that title like he stole something (which actually a case can be made for). Enjoy it while it lasts

[erics44]

Do you...do you really?

In all honesty Wlad should already have the WBA belt because he beat Chagaev...but it doesn't matter, Wlad will beat the usurper of that title like he stole something (which actually a case can be made for). Enjoy it while it lasts

yep i do

wlad wont fight its almost certain now

- i might have an injury - my brother is the tough one - haye has chose the easier of the two

making all the wrong noises

[badr_hari]

- i might have an injury - my brother is the tough one - haye has chose the easier of the two

i don't like these reactions from Wladimir. Let's hope its just his love for his big brother.

[NUCLEAR BULL]

(I am 99% certain that Wladimir will still say he has an abdominal injury and can't be fit in time for the fight) will he still retire in October?

It dawned on me this morning whilst reading about the fights. He seems certain he will unify the division and go out at the top but what happens if Vitali smashes him to bits (which I am convinced he does) - then he has no hope of becoming the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world and would end up as 'just another ABC belt holder'. Would he retire or demand a rematch with Vitali?

retireing as a abc belt holder is all the prat deserves

[Dropanuke]

This fight could go either way, out of the brothers I'd say vitali is the more mobile whilst wlad has the one shot power, haye can win if he pot shots as he did with valuev but valuev didn't stalk like a klitschko. Haye was able to to do what he wanted with valuev, if haye gets drawn into a close scrap then he gets put in a hospital.

[Majesty]

Watching the first round ofthe SOlis fight was actually something that almost convinced me when I thought that Vitali would be the worst matchup for Haye, watching what Solis was able to pull off let me see something, he is slowing down, and he is having a hard time seeing those counter right hands. Solis came in with a great strategy and was executing it well. But what I saw from Vitali was he wasn't as elusive as he used to be, maybe it has something to do with the fact he was mostly a counter puncher that could walk down fighters going backward and had power to back it up. But something about Vitali seems off right now, he got hit more in that first round then I can remember seeing in a while, just counter right counter right counter right and he kept leading and kept getting hit with it. That low left hand is coming back to bite him he doesn't pull away as fast as he used to. Watching that I'm almost convinced Haye would have an easier time beating Vitali then Wlad would. It's like when Sugar Ray Leonard saw Hagler against Mugabi and said he could beat Hagler by what he saw. By what I saw out of Vitali in just that short period of time, I think Haye can beat him. Vitali is slowing down considerably, and maybe it was just that fight but the gap between how he looked two fights ago, to last week is so big, that it makes me wonder if Haye fought Vitali what would happen, Vitali has an iron jaw but even he wouldn't take those straight counter right hands from Haye all night. So who knows but Vitali is vulnerable right now.

[badr_hari]

Watching the first round ofthe SOlis fight was actually something that almost convinced me when I thought that Vitali would be the worst matchup for Haye, watching what Solis was able to pull off let me see something, he is slowing down, and he is having a hard time seeing those counter right hands. Solis came in with a great strategy and was executing it well. But what I saw from Vitali was he wasn't as elusive as he used to be, maybe it has something to do with the fact he was mostly a counter puncher that could walk down fighters going backward and had power to back it up. But something about Vitali seems off right now, he got hit more in that first round then I can remember seeing in a while, just counter right counter right counter right and he kept leading and kept getting hit with it. That low left hand is coming back to bite him he doesn't pull away as fast as he used to. Watching that I'm almost convinced Haye would have an easier time beating Vitali then Wlad would. It's like when Sugar Ray Leonard saw Hagler against Mugabi and said he could beat Hagler by what he saw. By what I saw out of Vitali in just that short period of time, I think Haye can beat him. Vitali is slowing down considerably, and maybe it was just that fight but the gap between how he looked two fights ago, to last week is so big, that it makes me wonder if Haye fought Vitali what would happen, Vitali has an iron jaw but even he wouldn't take those straight counter right hands from Haye all night. So who knows but Vitali is vulnerable right now.

I agree Vitali is easier than Wlad, at this point. I felt the same when watching Vitali vs Solis. Solis had a great gameplan, had the skills, but definitely not the physical condition to be succesful at it. From Vitali's latest fights you can also see he is not bending those knees anymore and is losing his punching power as he is getting older (something that is happening with David Tua). But again, he would be a tough fight for Haye, because Haye himself is NOT that technical to outbox a durable Vitali for 12 rounds. Puts that left hand low unneccesary all the time, he is there to be hit after every right hand he throws, and squares up when moving side to side. He is explosive and got power but Vitali on the other hand has shown he can take a punch.

[El Kabong]

I agree Vitali is easier than Wlad, at this point. I felt the same when watching Vitali vs Solis. Solis had a great gameplan, had the skills, but definitely not the physical condition to be succesful at it. From Vitali's latest fights you can also see he is not bending those knees anymore and is losing his punching power as he is getting older (something that is happening with David Tua). But again, he would be a tough fight for Haye, because Haye himself is NOT that technical to outbox a durable Vitali for 12 rounds. Puts that left hand low unneccesary all the time, he is there to be hit after every right hand he throws, and squares up when moving side to side. He is explosive and got power but Vitali on the other hand has shown he can take a punch.

Whether or not Vitali is "slowing down" is moot, nobody is going to beat him. I think he may have 1 more fight before the Adamek fight, and then retire. Just because Vitali may have been SLIGHTLY cautious vs Solis for 2/3rds of a round doesn't mean CRAP, he won didn't he? Why worry about how many right crosses Vitali can take when his competition (obviously) still can't take 1 flush punch from him?!?!? Soon enough The WBC belt will be vacated and Wladimir will fight somebody for it: Arreola is still (why I don't know) ranked highly, Boytsov might be ready by then...but it's pointless to worry about since everyone but the Klitschko's are so inconsistent.