On their very best night who wins the all time heavyweight prizefighter competition?

[BIG H]

So what I mean is, they all meet each other on their very best night over 12 rounds. Take into consideration all factors, such as height e.t.c; e.g even if you think Rocky Marciano is the 'Greatest' heavyweight of all time, you surely would not expect him to beat Vitali Klitchko!

I think that some names that would not appear on the top 10 ATG list, would have a shout using this criteria.

Thoughts?

This is not about longjevity or legacy etc etc it's about one-on-one fights on their very best night.

[Fenster]

I'm not sure who wins but I can GUARANTEE 100% that prime Tyson starts favourite. Visually in his pomp no-one would be laying that guy. And he'd carry my dough.

[gest12645]

Ali would be the most logical choice. Holmes as my second pick and then Lewis/Tyson

[donnydarkoIRL]

On best night I couldn't argue against Ali.

[ICB]

It's hard to pick because for example, someone like Joe Frazier was special against Muhammad Ali in there 1st fight. And could of probably have beaten most Heavyweight's that night, but he'd still be a bad match up for someone like George Foreman.

Buster Douglas was special against Mike Tyson, but he's stamina was suspect so a tough fighter who could put on alot of pressure. Would get to him in the later rounds.

Mike Tyson's superb run against Michael Spinks, Trevor Berbick, Tyrell Biggs. On those night's he was special but he'd still struggle against a tall rangey boxer aka Holmes, Ali.

Larry Holmes was superb against Earnie Shavers in there 1st meeting, he showed pretty much every attribute you want in a Heavyweight. But i still think he would lose to a 1960's Muhammad Ali.

Riddick Bowe looked amazing against Evander Holyfield, but he'd still struggle against someone with a good jab which was his biggest weakness. See the Biggs, Tubbs, fights for example.

I think the one you could count on is a prime Muhammad Ali, he's a good height for a Heavyweight. And has so many strong attributes he hasn't got any real glaring weaknesses.

But then again he'd always struggle with Ken Norton, no matter when he fought him. It would really depend on who they were matched with in the Tournament.

But fighter's like.

Ali
Holmes
Tyson

Would probably be top finisher's as long as they didn't meet each other early in the tournament.

[Dark Lord Al]

over the short distance wouldnt George Foreman have a chance , the free swinging destroyer who beheaded joe frazier ?

[BIG H]

It's hard to pick because for example, someone like Joe Frazier was special against Muhammad Ali in there 1st fight. And could of probably have beaten most Heavyweight's that night, but he'd still be a bad match up for someone like George Foreman.

Buster Douglas was special against Mike Tyson, but he's stamina was suspect so a tough fighter who could put on alot of pressure. Would get to him in the later rounds.

Mike Tyson's superb run against Michael Spinks, Trevor Berbick, Tyrell Biggs. On those night's he was special but he'd still struggle against a tall rangey boxer aka Holmes, Ali.

Larry Holmes was superb against Earnie Shavers in there 1st meeting, he showed pretty much every attribute you want in a Heavyweight. But i still think he would lose to a 1960's Muhammad Ali.

Riddick Bowe looked amazing against Evander Holyfield, but he'd still struggle against someone with a good jab which was his biggest weakness. See the Biggs, Tubbs, fights for example.

I think the one you could count on is a prime Muhammad Ali, he's a good height for a Heavyweight. And has so many strong attributes he hasn't got any real glaring weaknesses.

But then again he'd always struggle with Ken Norton, no matter when he fought him. It would really depend on who they were matched with in the Tournament.

But fighter's like.

Ali
Holmes
Tyson

Would probably be top finisher's as long as they didn't meet each other early in the tournament.

They all have to fight each other! Is there anybody that wouldn't lose? I don't think there is.

I'd pick either Ali or Tyson as having the best chance of not losing, followed by Holmes I guess.

[DaxxKahn]

So what I mean is, they all meet each other on their very best night over 12 rounds. Take into consideration all factors, such as height e.t.c; e.g even if you think Rocky Marciano is the 'Greatest' heavyweight of all time, you surely would not expect him to beat Vitali Klitchko!

I think that some names that would not appear on the top 10 ATG list, would have a shout using this criteria.

Thoughts?

This is not about longjevity or legacy etc etc it's about one-on-one fights on their very best night.

This is a VERY good topic and I love the way you have it going about....You are 100% correct using the method stated many not ATG hwts can be mentioned.....

Shavers can be a candidate just due to his power being enough to starch anyone on any night...Walcott a former chasmpion who could be a dark horse....Marciano on the stamina factor could wear down any HW......

Personally I like Jack Johnson as a favorite Jack was amazing and 75yrs ahead of his time in skillset when compared to others of his era....Sam McVey was damn dagerous!!!!

I can't even begin to choose who would truly win after thought so many names so good on certain nights.....The Buster Douglas that beat Tyson would be a canidate for certain

[BIG H]

So what I mean is, they all meet each other on their very best night over 12 rounds. Take into consideration all factors, such as height e.t.c; e.g even if you think Rocky Marciano is the 'Greatest' heavyweight of all time, you surely would not expect him to beat Vitali Klitchko!

I think that some names that would not appear on the top 10 ATG list, would have a shout using this criteria.

Thoughts?

This is not about longjevity or legacy etc etc it's about one-on-one fights on their very best night.

This is a VERY good topic and I love the way you have it going about....You are 100% correct using the method stated many not ATG hwts can be mentioned.....

Shavers can be a candidate just due to his power being enough to starch anyone on any night...Walcott a former chasmpion who could be a dark horse....Marciano on the stamina factor could wear down any HW......

Personally I like Jack Johnson as a favorite Jack was amazing and 75yrs ahead of his time in skillset when compared to others of his era....Sam McVey was damn dagerous!!!!

I can't even begin to choose who would truly win after thought so many names so good on certain nights.....The Buster Douglas that beat Tyson would be a canidate for certain

Yeh, agree on Buster Douglas. I mean, he was generally a lazy fat bum, but he had talent and on that one night in history he was phenomenal!!

[IamInuit]

So what I mean is, they all meet each other on their very best night over 12 rounds. Take into consideration all factors, such as height e.t.c; e.g even if you think Rocky Marciano is the 'Greatest' heavyweight of all time, you surely would not expect him to beat Vitali Klitchko!

I think that some names that would not appear on the top 10 ATG list, would have a shout using this criteria.

Thoughts?

This is not about longjevity or legacy etc etc it's about one-on-one fights on their very best night.

Had to think about this question for a awhile. If each fighter could duplicate “best night” while fighting all others in this tourney then I think it would be Lewis when the smoke clears.

[Master]

Ali over 15 rounds and Tyson over 3 rounds of prize fighter.

[BIG H]

Ali over 15 rounds and Tyson over 3 rounds of prize fighter.

Fail and fail, coz the thread is about 12 round fights you noomer

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

just a random thought but Joe Fraizer, how poorly would he fair in all of this? Pretty badly IMO... Funny though Rocky's face would be in the line of fire all night against Joe Fraizer. One of the few guys, Joe could do very well against.

[generalbulldog]

I go with John L. Sullivan. The Boston Strong boy.

[Master]

Ali over 15 rounds and Tyson over 3 rounds of prize fighter.

Fail and fail, coz the thread is about 12 round fights you noomer

Ali and next time be more clearer.