Margarito and the wraps

[El Kabong]

Do you believe that Antonio Margarito only attempted to use loaded wraps for the Shane Mosley fight? Do you think he had used them before that fight or at multiple occasions during his career?

Discuss

[erics44]

im not sure its certainly posible

Mosely isnt exactly innocent of cheating himself tho

[El Kabong]

im not sure its certainly posible

Mosely isnt exactly innocent of cheating himself tho

Fair enough

All I will point to with Margarito is his record since he was caught cheating 1-2 with 0 Knockouts.

Also since the BALCO scandal broke in 2002 Mosley's record ain't all that geat either, though Shane has gotten older anyway so it's kind of harder to determine how much roids helped him.

[greynotsoold]

I truly hope the allegations are not true. I saw Magarito fight when he was 18 years old, against Alfred Ankamah at the Forum in LA, and was very impressed by his toughness. Ankamah- who was 14-2, 14KOs at the time- hit him a terrific shot to the liver and Magarito dropped; it was the kind of shot that ends fights. But he got up and kod Ankamah in the next round. He has never been the most skilled fighter, and if I stood up right now and threw a few punches, at least one is likely to hit him, but Magarito has always been very strong, tough and determined.
About the wraps... I'm not too clear on how that would work in the first place; I just can't picture how you could, in essence, put casts on a guys hands, have them harden in time for the fight, and then put gloves on over them. Also, wouldn't his arms get awfully heavy as the fight progressed? And Magarito didn't knock out too many guys early- in fact he tended to come on late. Did he, in theory, do this in every fight? How come he didn't stop Williams, then? He hit him with some really clean right hands...
In the Cotto fight, I thought Magarito would be too big and strong for Cotto and would stop him late anyway. Cotto didn't take punches all that well against Torres and his punch is the left hook to the body which means he's going to exchanging punches with a bigger stronger guy. I didn't see anything unexpected happen in that fight.

[fan johnny]

The Cotto fight is used as evidence to say to say we think so, but there isn't enough fight evidence after Cotto to prove it either. I can't really say he did or didn't. Let him fight Martinez and Paul Williams again.

[rjj tszyu]

For me he used them vs Cotto. Cotto's face was worsening with each punch!

[El Kabong]

For me he used them vs Cotto. Cotto's face was worsening with each punch!

As for evidence of that, all we have are pictures....

...after the Cotto fight.

You can see (unless you're blind or a fanboy) that something is obviously wrong with his wraps...now if you're the NSAC and you just "allowed" a fighter to use loaded wraps and didn't do anything about it, then you'd better cover your ass and deny everything and lose any evidence that might say otherwise, which is precisely what happened.

[erics44]

im not sure its certainly posible

Mosely isnt exactly innocent of cheating himself tho

Fair enough

All I will point to with Margarito is his record since he was caught cheating 1-2 with 0 Knockouts.

Also since the BALCO scandal broke in 2002 Mosley's record ain't all that geat either, though Shane has gotten older anyway so it's kind of harder to determine how much roids helped him.

im not sure you can use margaritos record against him like that

he lost to mosely but he had just been caught, i reckon when you get to that level the affect that that can have on you mentally can lose you the fight

his other loss was against pac and i thought he put in a decent performance when you compare it to pacs other recent opponents

[Master]

Whilst I believe Marg did cheat I was impressed by his performance against Pac Man and believe he does deserve to fight Cotto.

[rjj tszyu]

Whilst I believe Marg did cheat I was impressed by his performance against Pac Man and believe he does deserve to fight Cotto.

I think Cotto takes him apart this time!

[BIG H]

Do you believe that Antonio Margarito only attempted to use loaded wraps for the Shane Mosley fight? Do you think he had used them before that fight or at multiple occasions during his career?

Discuss

Like I just said in the other thread. It's very unlikely that after 42 fights and having just being in with a 32-0 Cotto, that he would decide that a 38 year old Mosely would be the first fight that he decided to and felt the need to tamper with his wraps, I mean 'come on' !!!

[generalbulldog]

Margarito didn't use loaded gloves, just like OJ Simpson didn't kill his wife.

[BIG H]

Margarito didn't use loaded gloves, just like OJ Simpson didn't kill his wife.

...and Bill Clinton didn't shove a Cigarre up Monica Lewinski's clout

[Mr140]

I say no because i cant really point out when he used then also he has never been know for his punching power at all. I think if he did load his gloves Cotto would of been knocked out sooner and Willaims would of been stop as well. But it doesn't really matter now because all we can do is guess when he tried to load his gloves, or that he never loading them at all.

[Jesus "Weirdo" Medina]

i think it is unlikely that he used loaded gloves. he could have but if he had used them before in other fights wouldnt he have gotten caught using them? or attempting to use them?