Was Paquiao/Mosley a success?

[Gandalf]

I am sure we are going to have that horrid, old Arum say "Well this fight did 200 billion PPV's and we are all very happy". He will then walk away whilst his trousers fall down from the weight of all the pieces of gold in his pocket.

Having said that though, we were all critical of this fight being made. Sure, most of us wanted Mosley to put Manny through his paces, but ultimately the fight was a massive stinkfest. There was little demand after Mosley's recent run of form, it was cynical matchmaking at its best.

So financially speaking it was probably a success, but in terms of Manny's rep and boxing enjoyment it was pile of crap.

What do you guys think, success or a manipulative bore?

[Hulk]

I am sure we are going to have that horrid, old Arum say "Well this fight did 200 billions PPV's and we are all very happy". He will then walk away whilst his trousers fall down from the weight of all the pieces of gold in his pocket.

Having said that though, we were all critical of this fight being made. Sure, most of us wanted Mosley to put Manny through his paces, but ultimately the fight was a massive stinkfest. There was little demand after Mosley's recent run of form, it was cynical matchmaking at its best.

So financially speaking it was probably a success, but in terms of Manny's rep and boxing enjoyment it was pile of crap.

What do you guys think, success or a manipulative bore?

Come on Miles tell us how you really feel ! haha

Simply put, the fight sucked. It sucked just about as much as the Clottey fight, worse I think, since I had higher offensive hopes for Mosley than I did from Clottey.

Mosley basically got knocked down and hurt, got scared, and went into survival mode.

Pacquaio looked a little underwhelming tonight too. Not quite up to his usual tremendous self.

Abysmal fight really...

[No Contest]

It was a boring success, but at least the paying fans got to see Arce Vs Vasquez, which was pretty entertaining for midget boxing. The crowd looked huge.

[Pavlik]

PAC dropping Shane and hurting him more than PBF is a success for me.
Anyways any PAC fight that PAC wins is a success for me

[Gandalf]

PAC dropping Shane and hurting him more than PBF is a success for me.
Anyways any PAC fight that PAC wins is a success for me

For me his fights are typically a success (even if the result has upset me), but it needs Pac to show something great and/or his opponents to show something. At least against Clottey we got to see his combination punching, this was really much more akin to Barrera/Pac 2 which was his last truly stinky fight. And at least Clottey was coming in off a fairly decent showing against Cotto.

This was far more opportunistic and the fight itself quite abysmal.

[marbleheadmaui]

[scratching head]

I'm not sure how this gets laid at Manny's feet at all. Floyd won't fight him, Shane was, ahem, a little shy, what's he to do?

I mean who else should he have fought? What could he really have done given the way Shane was trying to go the distance?

Now was it a great night for the sport? Hell the Vasquez-Arce fight was an excellent fight and the Pavlik fight was two competent if unexciting guys. So it was a decent card anyway I thought.

Certainly not a Don King card from the early 1990's, but waddya gonna do?

[Gandalf]

[scratching head]

I'm not sure how this gets laid at Manny's feet at all. Floyd won't fight him, Shane was, ahem, a little shy, what's he to do?

I mean who else should he have fought? What could he really have done given the way Shane was trying to go the distance?

Now was it a great night for the sport? Hell the Vasquez-Arce fight was an excellent fight and the Pavlik fight was two competent if unexciting guys. So it was a decent card anyway I thought.

Certainly not a Don King card from the early 1990's, but waddya gonna do?

The only way for it to be a success was for the fight to be an entertaining one. Either Manny wins convincingly or else Mosley puts up a solid showing to counter it, either way it needs to be a fight where two guys are looking to try to win. On that count this was a big fail. I think Clottey might have hurt Manny more than Shane did tonight.

It was just a very poor fight and when you put it into the context of the fight before....well it just looks even worse. Vasquez/Arce was awesome. The easy winner of the evening.

[marbleheadmaui]

[scratching head]

I'm not sure how this gets laid at Manny's feet at all. Floyd won't fight him, Shane was, ahem, a little shy, what's he to do?

I mean who else should he have fought? What could he really have done given the way Shane was trying to go the distance?

Now was it a great night for the sport? Hell the Vasquez-Arce fight was an excellent fight and the Pavlik fight was two competent if unexciting guys. So it was a decent card anyway I thought.

Certainly not a Don King card from the early 1990's, but waddya gonna do?

The only way for it to be a success was for the fight to be an entertaining one. Either Manny wins convincingly or else Mosley puts up a solid showing to counter it, either way it needs to be a fight where two guys are looking to try to win. On that count this was a big fail. I think Clottey might have hurt Manny more than Shane did tonight.

It was just a very poor fight and when you put it into the context of the fight before....well it just looks even worse. Vasquez/Arce was awesome. The easy winner of the evening.

LOL. OUCH on the bold!

I find even the Manny we saw tonight entertaining. He wasn't anywhere close to the same vicinty as his best, but his passion was all there. My view is in part motivated by fear. This sport is the merest shell of the one I grew up with in terms of available talent. In 2-3 years who is there really? Amir Kahn? Andre Ward? Jose Benavidez? I'm afraid I am holding on to the last vestage...God do I hope I'm wrong.

[Andre]

[scratching head]

I'm not sure how this gets laid at Manny's feet at all. Floyd won't fight him, Shane was, ahem, a little shy, what's he to do?

I mean who else should he have fought? What could he really have done given the way Shane was trying to go the distance?

Now was it a great night for the sport? Hell the Vasquez-Arce fight was an excellent fight and the Pavlik fight was two competent if unexciting guys. So it was a decent card anyway I thought.

Certainly not a Don King card from the early 1990's, but waddya gonna do?

The only way for it to be a success was for the fight to be an entertaining one. Either Manny wins convincingly or else Mosley puts up a solid showing to counter it, either way it needs to be a fight where two guys are looking to try to win. On that count this was a big fail. I think Clottey might have hurt Manny more than Shane did tonight.

It was just a very poor fight and when you put it into the context of the fight before....well it just looks even worse. Vasquez/Arce was awesome. The easy winner of the evening.

Yep it was like a semi exhibition fight where two friends get in the ring,(similar to how Liega Kostya looked) either Manny took it easy or Shane dissolved his power better than all of the other men Manny has messed up.
Maybe Floyd a good shot if he makes friends with him first.

[Addicted to Boxing]

[scratching head]

I'm not sure how this gets laid at Manny's feet at all. Floyd won't fight him, Shane was, ahem, a little shy, what's he to do?

I mean who elswww.acs-computer.come should he have fought? What could he really have done given the way Shane was trying to go the distance?

Now was it a great night for the sport? Hell the Vasquez-Arce fight was an excellent fight and the Pavlik fight was two competent if unexciting guys. So it was a decent card anyway I thought.

Certainly not a Don King card from the early 1990's, but waddya gonna do?

Scratching head lol....really? Simply put he should have never scheduled a fight against a washed up fighter. He has to take the good with the bad and this match was horrible ! Everyone that knows boxing knew it was a bad match and Pac now has to live with the bad responses.

[Rantcatrat]

[scratching head]

I'm not sure how this gets laid at Manny's feet at all. Floyd won't fight him, Shane was, ahem, a little shy, what's he to do?

I mean who elswww.acs-computer.come should he have fought? What could he really have done given the way Shane was trying to go the distance?

Now was it a great night for the sport? Hell the Vasquez-Arce fight was an excellent fight and the Pavlik fight was two competent if unexciting guys. So it was a decent card anyway I thought.

Certainly not a Don King card from the early 1990's, but waddya gonna do?

Scratching head lol....really? Simply put he should have never scheduled a fight against a washed up fighter. He has to take the good with the bad and this match was horrible ! Everyone that knows boxing knew it was a bad match and Pac now has to live with the bad responses.

The same way Mayweather did (if in fact he did). I personally was completely wrong. I thought Mosley had something left in the tank against Mayweather, but Mayweather was just so good Mosley couldn't get off, but against Pacquiao, Mosley would be able to get off and maybe even stun Pacquiao. I was completely wrong.

[mafiajoey]

PAC dropping Shane and hurting him more than PBF is a success for me.
Anyways any PAC fight that PAC wins is a success for me

Do you even watch the fight or do you just gaze into the eyes of your Pac cabbage patch doll and.....yha you know the rest.


All Pactards to is gauge everything in comparison to Floyd.....little insecure I take it or it wouldn't have been the first thing out of your mouth. Pac loses to Floyd accept it and be done and go back to Pac Land sites

[rick3262]

PAC dropping Shane and hurting him more than PBF is a success for me.
Anyways any PAC fight that PAC wins is a success for me

I agree. Shane nearly dropped Floyd. PAC drops Shane. Not too hard to connect the dots. Shane compete with Floyd. He turned and ran and grabbed and held and went into a defensive shell because he didn't want to get knocked out by PAC. Unfortunately, a PAC-Floyd fight would go pretty much the same way. Floyd tastes the canvas, then gets on his bicycle. Behind several rounds, he goes into survival mode, while PAC still throws leather. PAC gets frustrated because Floyd bends at the waist, tries to grab him around the legs, turns his back, hits on the break. Then, afterwards, when it's a unanimous decision, Floyd scowls as if he's been robbed. Then Floyd nut huggers can put down their testicular pacifiers.

[ElTerribleMorales]

PAC dropping Shane and hurting him more than PBF is a success for me.
Anyways any PAC fight that PAC wins is a success for me

I agree. Shane nearly dropped Floyd. PAC drops Shane. Not too hard to connect the dots. Shane compete with Floyd. He turned and ran and grabbed and held and went into a defensive shell because he didn't want to get knocked out by PAC. Unfortunately, a PAC-Floyd fight would go pretty much the same way. Floyd tastes the canvas, then gets on his bicycle. Behind several rounds, he goes into survival mode, while PAC still throws leather. PAC gets frustrated because Floyd bends at the waist, tries to grab him around the legs, turns his back, hits on the break. Then, afterwards, when it's a unanimous decision, Floyd scowls as if he's been robbed. Then Floyd nut huggers can put down their testicular pacifiers.

Floyd beat Mosley in Shane's first fight since he destroyed Tony, while Pacquiao picked him up after the loss to Mayweather and the lackluster draw against Sergio Mora , i wonder who took the fight when Mosley's stock was higher...

it was a crap performance last night, and let's not try and change history both guys (Mayweather and Manny) probably could have stopped Shane but for whatever reason eased up on him in the last few rounds, Mayweather walked him down from the second half of the 2nd round onwards, neither guy outdid the other so stop trying to clutch at straws and give some fake edge to Manny who has now had two borefests in his last 3 fights

[rick3262]

PAC dropping Shane and hurting him more than PBF is a success for me.
Anyways any PAC fight that PAC wins is a success for me

I agree. Shane nearly dropped Floyd. PAC drops Shane. Not too hard to connect the dots. Shane compete with Floyd. He turned and ran and grabbed and held and went into a defensive shell because he didn't want to get knocked out by PAC. Unfortunately, a PAC-Floyd fight would go pretty much the same way. Floyd tastes the canvas, then gets on his bicycle. Behind several rounds, he goes into survival mode, while PAC still throws leather. PAC gets frustrated because Floyd bends at the waist, tries to grab him around the legs, turns his back, hits on the break. Then, afterwards, when it's a unanimous decision, Floyd scowls as if he's been robbed. Then Floyd nut huggers can put down their testicular pacifiers.

Floyd beat Mosley in Shane's first fight since he destroyed Tony, while Pacquiao picked him up after the loss to Mayweather and the lackluster draw against Sergio Mora , i wonder who took the fight when Mosley's stock was higher...

it was a crap performance last night, and let's not try and change history both guys (Mayweather and Manny) probably could have stopped Shane but for whatever reason eased up on him in the last few rounds, Mayweather walked him down from the second half of the 2nd round onwards, neither guy outdid the other so stop trying to clutch at straws and give some fake edge to Manny who has now had two borefests in his last 3 fights

Crap performance in which Manny drops Shane and has Shane calling him the best pound for pound fighter with the context of having already fought Mayweather. If we talk about borefests, feather-fisted, grab and hold Mayweather is the pound-for-pound king. These "fake edges" that you refer to is why Mayweather is crapping in his pants, making excuses, and won't fight him. Once Manny knocks off the "O" from Mayweather's record, he has little else to cling to except his money and all of his previous boring fights.