Who has been made to look the bigger fool Haye oe DeGale?

[Kev]

Haye probably went the furthest in his trash talk but he did at least lose to a true great. But the DeGale Groves fight was much closer.

So who looks the biggest fool out of the pair?

I'm going with DeGale. He came up short at domestic level which is worse, although haye did early in his career of course.

Haye's big toe comments were embarrassing, but DeGale followed up his loss to Groves by getting beat up by a Spanish pool boy on holiday..

DeGale for me.

[Violent Demise]

I say Haye. Although the pool boy chin checking DeGale is hard to ignore I think he should of got the win against Groves

[ryanman]

My gut says it should be Haye - He did even more trash talking and lost clearly, whereas I feel Degale won by a round. But for some reason I going to go with Degale. I think he is just more of a comedy fool in general.
PLUS, he made it a lot worse in the fool-stakes when he lept up when they announced 'and still undefeated...' thinking that it was him and then quickly pulled his arms back down when he realised he was thick, then actually nearly doing it again when they said 'and now British AND Commenwealth champion'. Oh the shame.

[JazMerkin]

As I said elsewhere, I felt Groves used exactly the same tactics that Haye is now being vilified for, yet was strangely praised to high heaven. DeGale is far more amusing than Haye with his 'fright buture', but nothing in his performance was really amusing, I also had DeGale winning. I felt personally that was a far worse fight than what we got on Saturday.

Haye probably looks the bigger fool because of 'toe-gate', so I'd have to say him. But, the clear option that everyone should go for is Miles, because he's a cunt.

[ryanman]

As I said elsewhere, I felt Groves used exactly the same tactics that Haye is now being vilified for, yet was strangely praised to high heaven. DeGale is far more amusing than Haye with his 'fright buture', but nothing in his performance was really amusing, I also had DeGale winning. I felt personally that was a far worse fight than what we got on Saturday.

Haye probably looks the bigger fool because of 'toe-gate', so I'd have to say him. But, the clear option that everyone should go for is Miles, because he's a cunt.

In bold is a damn good point Smirkin.

To be honest I didn't think, and still don't think, that Groves tactics were right. Even though he got the decision. Clearly then I also think that Haye had the wrong tactics. But strangely I think that it was more wrong for Groves to adopt those tactics than it was for Haye.

[captainanddew]

Degale vs Groves was an even fight in my mind. Wlad won rounds 1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, pretty clearly. I'd argue he won round 4 as well.

[BIG H]

As I said elsewhere, I felt Groves used exactly the same tactics that Haye is now being vilified for, yet was strangely praised to high heaven. DeGale is far more amusing than Haye with his 'fright buture', but nothing in his performance was really amusing, I also had DeGale winning. I felt personally that was a far worse fight than what we got on Saturday.

Haye probably looks the bigger fool because of 'toe-gate', so I'd have to say him. But, the clear option that everyone should go for is Miles, because he's a cunt.

I didn't see groves rolling around on the floor 8 times? And he certainly fought more offensively than Haye. I think the tactical plan was the same but Groves actually delivered the plan whereas Haye did not.

[Hornfinger]

De gale.

He went into the fight the favourite and was expected to win.

Haye was never the favourite and MOST said he had no chance anyway.