Henderson for UFC ?!?

[Mattyhitman]

Taking into consideration Henderson's victory over Fedor, and him not under contract with Strikeforce - albeit the two organisations will merge at some point - Whats ya thoughts on him taking on the boy's from the UFC's 205 division?

How would he make out against the like's of Jones, Rampage ( rematch ), Evans etc?

I know Randy aint fought in a while, but what about a Hendo v Randy match at 205, two of the most respected fighters going at it, both over 40, both great wrestlers, and both will leave it all in the octagon on the night!

Would love to see Hendo back in the UFC, brings alot to the sport, and would make any division he fights in more interesting!

[mattboxingfan]

Randy's retired so that fight wouldn't happen. I would love to see Hendo back i was annoyed that he didn't get his title shot after the Bisping fight and therefor left to go to strikeforce.

Right now i think he has a good chance with anyone in the 205 division and there are so great matchups he could be in. Tito, Rua, Machida, Bader, Evans, Rampage and Jones would all be great fights to see. He is looking to have a bout 4/5 more fights before retireing so it would be nice to see him end his career in style in the UFC!

And for the record I've got him beating all the guys above but Im not sure about Bones yet.

[BIG H]

Randy's retired so that fight wouldn't happen. I would love to see Hendo back i was annoyed that he didn't get his title shot after the Bisping fight and therefor left to go to strikeforce.

Right now i think he has a good chance with anyone in the 205 division and there are so great matchups he could be in. Tito, Rua, Machida, Bader, Evans, Rampage and Jones would all be great fights to see. He is looking to have a bout 4/5 more fights before retireing so it would be nice to see him end his career in style in the UFC!

And for the record I've got him beating all the guys above but Im not sure about Bones yet.

I am. I give Hendo about 0% chance

[mattboxingfan]

Randy's retired so that fight wouldn't happen. I would love to see Hendo back i was annoyed that he didn't get his title shot after the Bisping fight and therefor left to go to strikeforce.

Right now i think he has a good chance with anyone in the 205 division and there are so great matchups he could be in. Tito, Rua, Machida, Bader, Evans, Rampage and Jones would all be great fights to see. He is looking to have a bout 4/5 more fights before retireing so it would be nice to see him end his career in style in the UFC!

And for the record I've got him beating all the guys above but Im not sure about Bones yet.

I am. I give Hendo about 0% chance

Its MMA everyone has a chance. Hendo keeps KO'ing people all he needs to do is land Rua did so Hendo can too.

[BIG H]

Randy's retired so that fight wouldn't happen. I would love to see Hendo back i was annoyed that he didn't get his title shot after the Bisping fight and therefor left to go to strikeforce.

Right now i think he has a good chance with anyone in the 205 division and there are so great matchups he could be in. Tito, Rua, Machida, Bader, Evans, Rampage and Jones would all be great fights to see. He is looking to have a bout 4/5 more fights before retireing so it would be nice to see him end his career in style in the UFC!

And for the record I've got him beating all the guys above but Im not sure about Bones yet.

I am. I give Hendo about 0% chance

Its MMA everyone has a chance. Hendo keeps KO'ing people all he needs to do is land Rua did so Hendo can too.

Yeh I know m8, I was exaggerating. I do actually think JBJ could become the greatest we have seen though!

[VictorCharlie]

Dan's wrestling, conditioning, toughness and dynamite right hand make him a tough fight for anyone. The Fedor fight was a big win but Calvacante and Babalu were great KO's over good fighters that wouldn't crack UFC's LHW top 10. I think he'd beat Rua, Rashad and Tito but I don't see him beating Jones or Rampage. I think a fight between him and Machida would tell us a lot about how he would stack up against the top echelon of 205. Machida is tough to hit cleanly and does a good job keeping wrestlers from getting the takedown. I'd lean towards Lyoto in this one particularly in a 3 rounder, but in a 5 round fight Hendo might be able to grind him down some and land a big punch. Lets hope some of these fights happen.

[Captain America]

Hendo lost to the best guy in two divisions in his most recent UFC run, and the Rampage fight was very close. He was the number two guy in two divisions. That's pretty fucking phenomenal.

Then he beat two hot prospects, decisively, in Palhares and Bisping with a win over a former champ and top MW, Franklin, in between.

He left the UFC because Dana wouldn't give him his promised title shot after he KTFO'd Bisping (instead giving it to Belfort, who Hendo dominated less than two years prior), and StrikeForce gave him more money. You're making it sound like he went 0-3 and got bounced, ge left over a contract dispute as the rightful number one contender on a 3 fight streak over top competition.

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[Mattyhitman]

Hendo lost to the best guy in two divisions in his most recent UFC run, and the Rampage fight was very close. He was the number two guy in two divisions. That's pretty fucking phenomenal.

Then he beat two hot prospects, decisively, in Palhares and Bisping with a win over a former champ and top MW, Franklin, in between.

He left the UFC because Dana wouldn't give him his promised title shot after he KTFO'd Bisping (instead giving it to Belfort, who Hendo dominated less than two years prior), and StrikeForce gave him more money. You're making it sound like he went 0-3 and got bounced, ge left over a contract dispute as the rightful number one contender on a 3 fight streak over top competition.

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This is what worries me more than anyhthing, the contract dispute he had with UFC at the time, now Zuffa own Strikeforce, are they gonna be willing to do business with a man who turned his back on them. Same thing happened with UFC and Fedor, now he's been dropped from their rosta. Of course his situation is different to Hendo's, at least Hendo has been winning.

Some good discussion points here

Hendo in my eye's can hang with all of them except Jones, Hendo would seriously get beat up. Anyone else he would give a good fight, and, as mentioned, IF that big right lands on anyone from 180-205 then it's gonna hurt, and they will be in trouble.

The Machida match up would be a good barometer for him at 205, or Leben at Middleweight. That I would like to see, In fact put him in with either Munoz or Leben, both would prove tough competition at MW.

Anyone thinking of going to UFC 138 at Birmingham ?

[mattboxingfan]

Hendo lost to the best guy in two divisions in his most recent UFC run, and the Rampage fight was very close. He was the number two guy in two divisions. That's pretty fucking phenomenal.

Then he beat two hot prospects, decisively, in Palhares and Bisping with a win over a former champ and top MW, Franklin, in between.

He left the UFC because Dana wouldn't give him his promised title shot after he KTFO'd Bisping (instead giving it to Belfort, who Hendo dominated less than two years prior), and StrikeForce gave him more money. You're making it sound like he went 0-3 and got bounced, ge left over a contract dispute as the rightful number one contender on a 3 fight streak over top competition.

*edited for grammar

This is what worries me more than anyhthing, the contract dispute he had with UFC at the time, now Zuffa own Strikeforce, are they gonna be willing to do business with a man who turned his back on them. Same thing happened with UFC and Fedor, now he's been dropped from their rosta. Of course his situation is different to Hendo's, at least Hendo has been winning.

Some good discussion points here

Hendo in my eye's can hang with all of them except Jones, Hendo would seriously get beat up. Anyone else he would give a good fight, and, as mentioned, IF that big right lands on anyone from 180-205 then it's gonna hurt, and they will be in trouble.

The Machida match up would be a good barometer for him at 205, or Leben at Middleweight. That I would like to see, In fact put him in with either Munoz or Leben, both would prove tough competition at MW.

Anyone thinking of going to UFC 138 at Birmingham ?

Dana said in an interview he has no problem with Hendo and he likes him. He said the move to Strikeforce was simply a business move for Hendo because they were offering more money. Now Zuffa own both companies im guessing the money will be similar therefore the better fights arfe in the UFC so i guess he will be back there.

Fedor on the other hand never wanted to fight in the UFC and from what i read and see they gave him great offers but his promotion declined. Now look at him his legacy has become questionable and he is on a 3 fight losing streak.

I'm planning on going to UFC 138 although the card isn't great because its not a PPV due to the time the main event should be one hell of a fight and Hathaway is ont he card. Also when Dan gets the win this weekend hopefully he will get on the card! OIOI!

[mattboxingfan]

Just checked and Jason Young is on the card against Omigawa that will be a great fight!

[Mattyhitman]

Hendo lost to the best guy in two divisions in his most recent UFC run, and the Rampage fight was very close. He was the number two guy in two divisions. That's pretty fucking phenomenal.

Then he beat two hot prospects, decisively, in Palhares and Bisping with a win over a former champ and top MW, Franklin, in between.

He left the UFC because Dana wouldn't give him his promised title shot after he KTFO'd Bisping (instead giving it to Belfort, who Hendo dominated less than two years prior), and StrikeForce gave him more money. You're making it sound like he went 0-3 and got bounced, ge left over a contract dispute as the rightful number one contender on a 3 fight streak over top competition.

*edited for grammar

This is what worries me more than anyhthing, the contract dispute he had with UFC at the time, now Zuffa own Strikeforce, are they gonna be willing to do business with a man who turned his back on them. Same thing happened with UFC and Fedor, now he's been dropped from their rosta. Of course his situation is different to Hendo's, at least Hendo has been winning.

Some good discussion points here

Hendo in my eye's can hang with all of them except Jones, Hendo would seriously get beat up. Anyone else he would give a good fight, and, as mentioned, IF that big right lands on anyone from 180-205 then it's gonna hurt, and they will be in trouble.

The Machida match up would be a good barometer for him at 205, or Leben at Middleweight. That I would like to see, In fact put him in with either Munoz or Leben, both would prove tough competition at MW.

Anyone thinking of going to UFC 138 at Birmingham ?

Dana said in an interview he has no problem with Hendo and he likes him. He said the move to Strikeforce was simply a business move for Hendo because they were offering more money. Now Zuffa own both companies im guessing the money will be similar therefore the better fights arfe in the UFC so i guess he will be back there.

Fedor on the other hand never wanted to fight in the UFC and from what i read and see they gave him great offers but his promotion declined. Now look at him his legacy has become questionable and he is on a 3 fight losing streak.

I'm planning on going to UFC 138 although the card isn't great because its not a PPV due to the time the main event should be one hell of a fight and Hathaway is ont he card. Also when Dan gets the win this weekend hopefully he will get on the card! OIOI!

From what I understood, he made a demand/request for more money, and was told no thanks, we dont think your worth it, demanding something like £1m fight package

Did ya see the interview with Chael Sonnen talking about Fedor before the Hendo fight (On youtube somewhere), if not check it out, funny as fuck ! Really having a go at how shit Fedor is, claiming his fight record was 1-2, and asking who the fuck is this Fedor? what do we know about him ? all we know is that he has lost his last two fights ! Chael simply does not acknowledge anything Fedor has done pre-US fights !

[mattboxingfan]

Hendo lost to the best guy in two divisions in his most recent UFC run, and the Rampage fight was very close. He was the number two guy in two divisions. That's pretty fucking phenomenal.

Then he beat two hot prospects, decisively, in Palhares and Bisping with a win over a former champ and top MW, Franklin, in between.

He left the UFC because Dana wouldn't give him his promised title shot after he KTFO'd Bisping (instead giving it to Belfort, who Hendo dominated less than two years prior), and StrikeForce gave him more money. You're making it sound like he went 0-3 and got bounced, ge left over a contract dispute as the rightful number one contender on a 3 fight streak over top competition.

*edited for grammar

This is what worries me more than anyhthing, the contract dispute he had with UFC at the time, now Zuffa own Strikeforce, are they gonna be willing to do business with a man who turned his back on them. Same thing happened with UFC and Fedor, now he's been dropped from their rosta. Of course his situation is different to Hendo's, at least Hendo has been winning.

Some good discussion points here

Hendo in my eye's can hang with all of them except Jones, Hendo would seriously get beat up. Anyone else he would give a good fight, and, as mentioned, IF that big right lands on anyone from 180-205 then it's gonna hurt, and they will be in trouble.

The Machida match up would be a good barometer for him at 205, or Leben at Middleweight. That I would like to see, In fact put him in with either Munoz or Leben, both would prove tough competition at MW.

Anyone thinking of going to UFC 138 at Birmingham ?

Dana said in an interview he has no problem with Hendo and he likes him. He said the move to Strikeforce was simply a business move for Hendo because they were offering more money. Now Zuffa own both companies im guessing the money will be similar therefore the better fights arfe in the UFC so i guess he will be back there.

Fedor on the other hand never wanted to fight in the UFC and from what i read and see they gave him great offers but his promotion declined. Now look at him his legacy has become questionable and he is on a 3 fight losing streak.

I'm planning on going to UFC 138 although the card isn't great because its not a PPV due to the time the main event should be one hell of a fight and Hathaway is ont he card. Also when Dan gets the win this weekend hopefully he will get on the card! OIOI!

From what I understood, he made a demand/request for more money, and was told no thanks, we dont think your worth it, demanding something like £1m fight package

Did ya see the interview with Chael Sonnen talking about Fedor before the Hendo fight (On youtube somewhere), if not check it out, funny as fuck ! Really having a go at how shit Fedor is, claiming his fight record was 1-2, and asking who the fuck is this Fedor? what do we know about him ? all we know is that he has lost his last two fights ! Chael simply does not acknowledge anything Fedor has done pre-US fights !

I'm an avid watcher of Chael interviews! I've seen that and the one with Ariel is really good too when he talks about the nog brothers trying to feed a bus! Also there was a Q&A with him last friday you can see it on the UFC website.

I didn't think he made an offer he just declined there offer. Dana said he made a ridiculous offer to him that he would get more money than he has so far and he would go straight up against Brock for the title. He also said that Fedors team went there knowing they wouldn't take the deal which doesn't surprise me.

[Captain America]

I love how Charl rails Fedor, Wand, the Nog brothers and others for fighting in Japan, then praises Hendo for being a two division champ… in Japan! That fucker's mad as a hatter.

With the Hendo negotiations, I remember Dan asking for "Tito money", which was like $300 grand flat rate per fight (I don't what that is in pounds), it was like a %50 raise. I also remember Dana and Dan making jokes about eachother and laughing in the media. I think it was pretty clearly just business.

With Fedor, I think M-1 was just fucking with Dana. With how much shit Dana's talked about Fedor, I can't imagine how he ever expected to sign him. I suspect they just liked watching Dana go back and forth with his bullshit. When they were negotiating, "Fedor's great, a true legend, the biggest signing we could ever make", etc., when they're not, "Fedor's shit, he hasn't fought anybody, he's afraid of the UFC", etc. He looked like an idiot during that period.

[mattboxingfan]

I love how Charl rails Fedor, Wand, the Nog brothers and others for fighting in Japan, then praises Hendo for being a two division champ… in Japan! That fucker's mad as a hatter.

With the Hendo negotiations, I remember Dan asking for "Tito money", which was like $300 grand flat rate per fight (I don't what that is in pounds), it was like a %50 raise. I also remember Dana and Dan making jokes about eachother and laughing in the media. I think it was pretty clearly just business.

With Fedor, I think M-1 was just fucking with Dana. With how much shit Dana's talked about Fedor, I can't imagine how he ever expected to sign him. I suspect they just liked watching Dana go back and forth with his bullshit. When they were negotiating, "Fedor's great, a true legend, the biggest signing we could ever make", etc., when they're not, "Fedor's shit, he hasn't fought anybody, he's afraid of the UFC", etc. He looked like an idiot during that period.

Hendo's last fight in the UFC he earned $250 so he wasn't far off $300. But Tito earned $450 against Bader but usually he earns $250. So i don't imagine he asked for Tito money.

[Captain America]

That $250 grand included $150 win bonus. From what I remember, Dan wasn't asking for a huge pay increase, but a guaranteed flat rate (like Tito, Brock, Anderson, GSP and a few others get). He wouldn't've been making a lot more for wins, but it could've over tripled his pay with a loss, plus he could've dropped 3 straight and still made the same money, like Tito. I think Dan was trying to hedge his bet if Silva beat him again, this way he'd still make good money, plus he'd get the same pay for the rest of his contract.