Barker vs Martinez, how did your card look?

[BIG H]

If you listened to the UK commentary you would probably have had it level after 10, I only gave Barker rounds 3 an 4

[Diane]

I only gave Barker 1 round. There were a couple rounds that were a little close, but he just didn't let his hands go enough. Seemed like he was content with just trying to go the distance with Martinez, but that didn't quite work out for him either.

They're just about to replay the fight on HBO right now, so I'll see if I see it differently this time.

[Hulk]

I only gave Barker 1 round. There were a couple rounds that were a little close, but he just didn't let his hands go enough. Seemed like he was content with just trying to go the distance with Martinez, but that didn't quite work out for him either.

They're just about to replay the fight on HBO right now, so I'll see if I see it differently this time.

Exactly. Barker won one round. Maybe two if you were really looking to give him all you could.

Did better than expected, bravo for that, but he didn't want to take any chances and didn't come to win.

[ICB]

1 or 2 rounds really guys ? Barker was blocking most of Martinez's punches. And was landing accurate jabs and right hands, Martinez looked puzzled and didn't really do much except drop his hands and allow Barker to come forward and hit him.

Barker easily won 4 rounds i don't understand all this talk of 1 or 2 rounds, Martinez done nothing in the 1st half of the fight really. And its only because Barker has suspect stamina that Martinez was able to comeback in the fight, because Barker's guard loosened and stopped throwing punches.

[ICB]

I know punchstats don't tell the whole story, but i just went a checked the stats and according to the stats Barker was only dominated in the last 2 rounds. All the other rounds regarding punches landed were all competitive, and i think Martinez probably got more credit for glancing punches aswell. Because not that much was landing clean in the the 1st half of the fight.

[erics44]

yeah he won more than 2 rounds and who ever said he didnt come to win thats not very fair

he had no experience at that level and away from home

An Martinez has all of the experience

If barker has a couple more fights at that type of level and in that type of atmosphere and they did it again, i would expect the fight to be a lot closer

[Matias64]

1 or 2 rounds really guys ? Barker was blocking most of Martinez's punches. And was landing accurate jabs and right hands, Martinez looked puzzled and didn't really do much except drop his hands and allow Barker to come forward and hit him.

Barker easily won 4 rounds i don't understand all this talk of 1 or 2 rounds, Martinez done nothing in the 1st half of the fight really. And its only because Barker has suspect stamina that Martinez was able to comeback in the fight, because Barker's guard loosened and stopped throwing punches.

I don't blame you using british goggles. Barker was blocking most of the punches? Sure. But too many found their way to his head and ear. Even before round ten and eleven.

[ICB]

1 or 2 rounds really guys ? Barker was blocking most of Martinez's punches. And was landing accurate jabs and right hands, Martinez looked puzzled and didn't really do much except drop his hands and allow Barker to come forward and hit him.

Barker easily won 4 rounds i don't understand all this talk of 1 or 2 rounds, Martinez done nothing in the 1st half of the fight really. And its only because Barker has suspect stamina that Martinez was able to comeback in the fight, because Barker's guard loosened and stopped throwing punches.

I don't blame you using british goggles. Barker was blocking most of the punches? Sure. But too many found their way to his head and ear. Even before round ten and eleven.

Nothing to do with being biased im not really a fan of Barker, i just fail to see what Martinez done in the 1st half that makes the fight ridiculously wide. Like you guys are saying because i didn't see it that way at all. I see Barker landing the clean punches and Martinez just looking at Barker, and dropping his hands and having his punches mostly blocked.

[CFH]

1 or 2 rounds really guys ? Barker was blocking most of Martinez's punches. And was landing accurate jabs and right hands, Martinez looked puzzled and didn't really do much except drop his hands and allow Barker to come forward and hit him.

Barker easily won 4 rounds i don't understand all this talk of 1 or 2 rounds, Martinez done nothing in the 1st half of the fight really. And its only because Barker has suspect stamina that Martinez was able to comeback in the fight, because Barker's guard loosened and stopped throwing punches.

I don't blame you using british goggles. Barker was blocking most of the punches? Sure. But too many found their way to his head and ear. Even before round ten and eleven.

In Ice's defense, I've never known him to be biased towards British fighters.

I was half-watching the fight on a shitty stream in between rounds of the Marquez fight and from what I saw Barker was giving Martinez all he could handle early on.

[BIG H]

1 or 2 rounds really guys ? Barker was blocking most of Martinez's punches. And was landing accurate jabs and right hands, Martinez looked puzzled and didn't really do much except drop his hands and allow Barker to come forward and hit him.

Barker easily won 4 rounds i don't understand all this talk of 1 or 2 rounds, Martinez done nothing in the 1st half of the fight really. And its only because Barker has suspect stamina that Martinez was able to comeback in the fight, because Barker's guard loosened and stopped throwing punches.

If you saw it different you are in the minority. Barker just didn't throw enough to win rounds. It is a much better fight without the commentary as well.

[ICB]

1 or 2 rounds really guys ? Barker was blocking most of Martinez's punches. And was landing accurate jabs and right hands, Martinez looked puzzled and didn't really do much except drop his hands and allow Barker to come forward and hit him.

Barker easily won 4 rounds i don't understand all this talk of 1 or 2 rounds, Martinez done nothing in the 1st half of the fight really. And its only because Barker has suspect stamina that Martinez was able to comeback in the fight, because Barker's guard loosened and stopped throwing punches.

If you saw it different you are in the minority. Barker just didn't throw enough to win rounds. It is a much better fight without the commentary as well.

What was Martinez doing though ? just dropping his hands looking at Barker, i really can't understand why people had it so wide. Martinez virtually done nothing in the 1st half, and Barker was the one landing all the accurate shots.

[J_C]

If you listened to the UK commentary you would probably have had it level after 10, I only gave Barker rounds 3 an 4

I had it exactly the same as you. 3 and 4 Barker, the rest Martinez for 8-2.

[Mars_ax]

If you listened to the UK commentary you would probably have had it level after 10, I only gave Barker rounds 3 an 4

I had it exactly the same as you. 3 and 4 Barker, the rest Martinez for 8-2.

That's about how I had it, Barker only winning 1 or 2 rounds, Martinez was simply outworking Barker and landing the most effective punches.
Even though Barker was clearly losing the fight, even before it was stopped in the 11th round, it wasn't a bad effort by him, he has nothing to be ashamed of, nothing ventured nothing gained.

[BIG H]

If you listened to the UK commentary you would probably have had it level after 10, I only gave Barker rounds 3 an 4

I had it exactly the same as you. 3 and 4 Barker, the rest Martinez for 8-2.

That's about how I had it, Barker only winning 1 or 2 rounds, Martinez was simply outworking Barker and landing the most effective punches.
Even though Barker was clearly losing the fight, even before it was stopped in the 11th round, it wasn't a bad effort by him, he has nothing to be ashamed of, nothing ventured nothing gained.

Agreed, it was a massive step up and he aquitted himself well. A shame about the rolling over on his back - but the guy was obviously very hurt. He'll come again.

[Rantcatrat]

If you listened to the UK commentary you would probably have had it level after 10, I only gave Barker rounds 3 an 4

I had it exactly the same as you. 3 and 4 Barker, the rest Martinez for 8-2.

That's about how I had it, Barker only winning 1 or 2 rounds, Martinez was simply outworking Barker and landing the most effective punches.
Even though Barker was clearly losing the fight, even before it was stopped in the 11th round, it wasn't a bad effort by him, he has nothing to be ashamed of, nothing ventured nothing gained.

Agreed, it was a massive step up and he aquitted himself well. A shame about the rolling over on his back - but the guy was obviously very hurt. He'll come again.

He put forward a brave effort. He had much better defense than I had seen from him in the past and he laid the blue print on how it would be possible to beat Martinez. I gave Barker two rounds and thought another was close. I had it 8-2 at the time of the stoppage, but Barker made many of the rounds close and he bloodied Martinez's nose in the 4th. Nothing wrong with travelling abroad and losing to a great fighter and, if anything, I hold him in higher esteem than I did prior to the fight.