Is it ever okay for a man to raise his fists to a woman?

[Gandalf]

I was out this evening with some friends and after a few drinks a girl at our table raised her arms and showed bruises which she was forced to admit came from her boyfriend. Apparently they were making out after a few drinks and she called out the name of some previous guy she had been intimate with. And so he got pissed off and shook her thus causing the bruises on the arms and apparently also on the back.

Now that to me is violence against a woman. Okay, now she made a mistake by calling some guys name while intimate, but is it ever okay to raise the violence to the level where you are shaking someone and causing bruises to a woman?

I start this thread having been the recipient of violence against mankind myself, but for some reason I have the superhuman ability to absorb my wife's blows and only ever scar when I take the knife to myself.

So what are your views on domestic violence and in particular guys who lose it against women? It seems she is willing to give this creep another free run, but I argue otherwise. What are your views on this issue?

[Mark TKO]

There are two occasions when it is perfectly acceptable to raise your fists to a woman, if :-


i) she is being unreasonable

or

ii) she is in the wrong


Not acceptable at any other time

[Howlin Mad Missy]

I had a guy knock me off a chair in a bar, pinned me to the floor and hand his hand on my throat and pulled his other arm back - not a lot of defence when someone attacks you from behind like that.

Thing is after - I was calm angry - everyone was fussing round me and the only thing I saw was a kitchen knife on the table next to me and him halfway across the room. If they went there asking me if I was ok, I would have stabbed the fucker no question (or at least gone to).

I've not pulled the trigger it but I know I can get angry enough to lash out. I also know if any fella does hit me I'd end up done for murder/manslaughter.

People also ignore the signs....


Most men are bigger/stronger than most women so will do more damage if they hit a woman. Most fellas wouldnt punch a kid or granny in the face so why a woman.

Not really a shocker I think this way.

[Master]

If she was attacking your family and putting them in danger then you would stand up and knock her out.

[Spicoli]

If she is trying to stab you in the eye yes, unless she is doing so because you have once again raised and or used your fist on her. In which case you should just take your stabbing like a man.

[Saddo]

I would never hit a woman unless like stated above there where attacking my wife, kids or my life.

but it is totally wrong to hit a woman just because your angry... scum bags do that.

as for that girl shouting out another guys name its, no big deal.... my wife always shouts out another mans name during sex and if i ever find out who that fucker Jesus is, i'll kill him.

[Fenster]

I've see women who are far more violent than men. The idea that the man they were attacking (sometimes virtual strangers) should not be allowed to chin them is frankly ridiculous.

All situations are different.

[Andre]

If they are ugly.

[BIG H]

What do you say to a woman with two Black eyes?











































































Nothing!! You've already told her twice!!

[Gandalf]

I've see women who are far more violent than men. The idea that the man they were attacking (sometimes virtual strangers) should not be allowed to chin them is frankly ridiculous.

All situations are different.

It's quite interesting to me how it seems quite acceptable in society for a woman to fly into a rage and hit a man and it is typically ignored. But if a man does the same thing he is automatically the devil.

I agree that neither gender should fly off the handle and deck the other, but I think there are clear double standards.

Men are taught to never hit a woman, but I don't think that line is ever reinforced with women. Still, in this case I don't think it was right for a woman to be bruised up. Anyone leading the attack is an out of control lunatic IMO.

[BIG H]

If a woman starts hitting you or pulls a blade on you, are we expected to just stand there? Nah, I'd do whatever I need to to protect myself, be it man woman, Bilbo or Dog.

[Fenster]

I've see women who are far more violent than men. The idea that the man they were attacking (sometimes virtual strangers) should not be allowed to chin them is frankly ridiculous.

All situations are different.

It's quite interesting to me how it seems quite acceptable in society for a woman to fly into a rage and hit a man and it is typically ignored. But if a man does the same thing he is automatically the devil.

I agree that neither gender should fly off the handle and deck the other, but I think there are clear double standards.

Men are taught to never hit a woman, but I don't think that line is ever reinforced with women. Still, in this case I don't think it was right for a woman to be bruised up. Anyone leading the attack is an out of control lunatic IMO.

Yeah your friends attack seems a wrongun.

If you get violent you should be prepared to take it back. Women shouldn't get an exemption.

[Nameless]

I would never ever hit a woman except if my physical integrity or the one of somebody around me is being threatened seriously (from my judgementof the moment, of course). A girl trying to push me could be ok, a girl shouting like there is no tomorrow doesn't bother me, a girl trying to punch me.... NO GOOD. I wouldn't fire back at the first punch but if she keeps being crazy or tries to really hurt me (especially if she has a weapon), without shame, I'll do what I gotta do to protect me.

[:::PSL:::]

If she's a total psychobitch, like Glenn Close in fatal attraction...

Then I guess it's okay.

[Mars_ax]

I feel quite sure that threre are exceptions, like having to defend yourself, not all women are wilting flowers, (think Anne Wolfe) some are more then capable of doing some serious damage, especially if they're really pissed off or fucked up on drugs or alcohol.

I've never had it happen, but if a woman hauled off and hit me, or tried to kick me in the nuts, it would take a lot of self restraint not to retaliate. Having said that, I hope that I never have to strike a female, even in self-defense there's just something terribly wrong about that.