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    Default Is this the strangest "robbery" ever?

    I didn't watch the whole fight, so I can't really comment on who won.

    When I was watching I thought Manny's "dominance" was a bit overstated by the HBO people. The crowd would go nuts every time Manny threw a left and were predictably silent when Bradley landed a body shot. Granted, I did think Manny was winning (and I'm a fan).

    But when does the "house" guy get robbed? It would make more sense if Bradley dominated and Manny got the decision.

    Wild (or not that wild) conspiracy theories: Arum wants to avoid a Floyd fight (meh); some talk about late money in on Bradley so some serious gamblers bought the fight, etc.

    The whole thing is strange. I expect the "house" guy to get the corruption, that's what's right (wrong) with boxing.

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    Default Re: Is this the strangest "robbery" ever?

    The only other fight I can think of where the house guy lost was the OScar-Tito fight.

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    Both cash cows though, Bradley is so not a cash cow. The opposite of that.

    I'm struggling to get my head around this.

    If this was corruption I don't see how it involved furthering Bradley's career. It was about gambling money, some kind of weird Arum/Pacquiao/Maywether triange, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    I didn't watch the whole fight, so I can't really comment on who won.

    When I was watching I thought Manny's "dominance" was a bit overstated by the HBO people. The crowd would go nuts every time Manny threw a left and were predictably silent when Bradley landed a body shot. Granted, I did think Manny was winning (and I'm a fan).

    But when does the "house" guy get robbed? It would make more sense if Bradley dominated and Manny got the decision.

    Wild (or not that wild) conspiracy theories: Arum wants to avoid a Floyd fight (meh); some talk about late money in on Bradley so some serious gamblers bought the fight, etc.

    The whole thing is strange. I expect the "house" guy to get the corruption, that's what's right (wrong) with boxing.
    there is this being reported. Apparently late money bought in a lot, like it was -432 @ 2 PM today, and then closed at -392.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    I didn't watch the whole fight, so I can't really comment on who won.

    When I was watching I thought Manny's "dominance" was a bit overstated by the HBO people. The crowd would go nuts every time Manny threw a left and were predictably silent when Bradley landed a body shot. Granted, I did think Manny was winning (and I'm a fan).

    But when does the "house" guy get robbed? It would make more sense if Bradley dominated and Manny got the decision.

    Wild (or not that wild) conspiracy theories: Arum wants to avoid a Floyd fight (meh); some talk about late money in on Bradley so some serious gamblers bought the fight, etc.

    The whole thing is strange. I expect the "house" guy to get the corruption, that's what's right (wrong) with boxing.



    That word sums up what may have been wrong with this decision.

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    Even though I can't say, that seems to be the word.

    But that's the point, its so odd. It would be so much more normal if corruption screwed over Bradley.

    What has happened to boxing? Now the golden boys are being screwed over? Oscar should come back just to be robbed.

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    Being a pro boxer is the equivalent of being a gay male bottom. Eventually the pro boxer no matter who he is or how accomplished he is, will be fucked in the ass.

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    Default Re: Is this the strangest "robbery" ever?

    It wasn't a one sided fight at all. It was a close fight, watch it again without the volume and HBO. Manny IMO won a close fight but it was very close. COmpubox showed really poor statistical accuracy tonight, and I think that scewed people's view on the fight.

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    With or without CompuBox..... Manny was 100 times more accurate. Bradley landed very few shots on Manny. But know it's obvious that Manny was going to need a knockout to win this particular fight.

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    The theory that makes most sense to me is that Arum had the rematch planned all along..down to the posters in November. So another house fight and more money for Arum. Cunt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post
    The theory that makes most sense to me is that Arum had the rematch planned all along..down to the posters in November. So another house fight and more money for Arum. Cunt
    If it's a cooked decision you have to look at who benefits. Biggest money fight would be pac/pbf so in that respect it makes no sense.

    And this IS another fight where Pac has looked to have slowed down and not the 3 minute punching machine of old IF he was Bradley wouldnt have lasted, as it was in several rounds his foot was seriously off the gas while Bradley was looking to move and jab, can't have pac landing a couple of shots late and be given the round just for that - which I suspect is what people are doing. It was a close fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post
    The theory that makes most sense to me is that Arum had the rematch planned all along..down to the posters in November. So another house fight and more money for Arum. Cunt
    If it's a cooked decision you have to look at who benefits. Biggest money fight would be pac/pbf so in that respect it makes no sense.
    Sure, I hear what you're saying - But at the same time it's perhaps the best option for Bob Arum and one where he could potentially make more money (depending on how long he drags it on). Remember that if that megafight happens, Arum is splitting the pot with Oscar. This way he gets to keep all profits in-house with the potential of more money down the line from future paydays of his house fighter.

    I mean his first reaction was "I'm going to make millions from the rematch but it was an outrageous decision". I think that his greed and hand in this decision is quite obvious.

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    Default Re: Is this the strangest "robbery" ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post
    The theory that makes most sense to me is that Arum had the rematch planned all along..down to the posters in November. So another house fight and more money for Arum. Cunt
    If it's a cooked decision you have to look at who benefits. Biggest money fight would be pac/pbf so in that respect it makes no sense.
    Sure, I hear what you're saying - But at the same time it's perhaps the best option for Bob Arum and one where he could potentially make more money (depending on how long he drags it on). Remember that if that megafight happens, Arum is splitting the pot with Oscar. This way he gets to keep all profits in-house with the potential of more money down the line from future paydays of his house fighter.

    I mean his first reaction was "I'm going to make millions from the rematch but it was an outrageous decision". I think that his greed and hand in this decision is quite obvious.
    Factor in the betting odds against Bradley and Arum has made a ton of money this fight.
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    It was time for Manny to know how Marquez felt 3 times.

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