dedicated to the "fab 4"

[frankenfrank]

It is time 2 remind n discuss a few facts about d fab 4 .

1) Wilfredo Benitez is extremely overrated . (1.1) D man probably lost twice (at least 1ce) 2 Bruce Curry . (1.2) IDK how credible his wins over Duran n Palomino r/were

2) Ray Leonard stopped drained (2.1) Hearns , (2.2) Benitez (2.3) Duran .
Neither of these guys fought @ 147 after their fights with him .
Even in d Hearns rematch , Leonard had him drained 2 a catchweight (164 or 165 i think) and still deserved 2 lose d verdict .
(2.3) I read that he admitted 2 have rematched Duran @ a time when he knew Duran would not have been in shape 2 fight .
(2.4) most importantly , not only his "victory" over an older eroded Hagler was not a win , it is even bullshit as a fight - he had thickly padded gloves , big ring and 12 rounds instead of 15 . Hagler would have stopped him under normal (for that time) circumstances even past his prime as he actually was going in against Leonard .
(2.5) Leonard was beaten by Hearns in their rematch but got a draw .

3) Hagler ruled over a weak middleweight division . Any1 who disagrees , answer this question : who was Hagler's best opponent @ MW ?

4) Duran (4.1) is overrated as a lightweight - he fouled vs Ken Buchanan and I think not just him and (4.2) against Davey Moore @ 154 , Moore came in with a severe injury in his jaw and Duran also thumbed him 2 win a really bullshit TKO and by this i don't mean that it was premature or anything , just cheating against n already injured (since b4 d fight even began) opponent .
His win over Barkley looks impressive both on paper and on film , but Barkley was probably drained and weakened against him .

5) Hearns was a clean fighter as far as I know but his losses exclude him from my top 80 p4p (even top 100) at least . He even showed his vulnerability in some of his (listed) victories (Kinchen , Roldan)

[p4pking]

I can't figure out whether you are serious or a huge troll. You have NO idea what you are on about

[El Kabong]

Sure Duran hit Buchanan low, but it's not a foul unless the ref calls it. He also whipped the shit out of a Prime Ray Leonard, and I mean beat him like he stole something!

[ICB]

Wilfred Benitez would of gave Manny Pacquiao a boxing lesson that is all.

[El Kabong]

Wilfred Benitez would of gave Manny Pacquiao a boxing lesson that is all.

I venture to guess that all of them would.

[roberto duran legend]

Can everyone please put frankenfart on ignore, what a dick.

[TitoFan]

I can't figure out whether you are serious or a huge troll. You have NO idea what you are on about

[Dark Lord Al]

It is time 2 remind n discuss a few facts about d fab 4 .

1) Wilfredo Benitez is extremely overrated . (1.1) D man probably lost twice (at least 1ce) 2 Bruce Curry . (1.2) IDK how credible his wins over Duran n Palomino r/were

2) Ray Leonard stopped drained (2.1) Hearns , (2.2) Benitez (2.3) Duran .
Neither of these guys fought @ 147 after their fights with him .
Even in d Hearns rematch , Leonard had him drained 2 a catchweight (164 or 165 i think) and still deserved 2 lose d verdict .
(2.3) I read that he admitted 2 have rematched Duran @ a time when he knew Duran would not have been in shape 2 fight .
(2.4) most importantly , not only his "victory" over an older eroded Hagler was not a win , it is even bullshit as a fight - he had thickly padded gloves , big ring and 12 rounds instead of 15 . Hagler would have stopped him under normal (for that time) circumstances even past his prime as he actually was going in against Leonard .
(2.5) Leonard was beaten by Hearns in their rematch but got a draw .

3) Hagler ruled over a weak middleweight division . Any1 who disagrees , answer this question : who was Hagler's best opponent @ MW ?

4) Duran (4.1) is overrated as a lightweight - he fouled vs Ken Buchanan and I think not just him and (4.2) against Davey Moore @ 154 , Moore came in with a severe injury in his jaw and Duran also thumbed him 2 win a really bullshit TKO and by this i don't mean that it was premature or anything , just cheating against n already injured (since b4 d fight even began) opponent .
His win over Barkley looks impressive both on paper and on film , but Barkley was probably drained and weakened against him .

5) Hearns was a clean fighter as far as I know but his losses exclude him from my top 80 p4p (even top 100) at least . He even showed his vulnerability in some of his (listed) victories (Kinchen , Sims , Roldan)

Sims ? Robbie sims ? I must have missed that one.

[ElTerribleMorales]

[Dark Lord Al]

It is time 2 remind n discuss a few facts about d fab 4 .

1) Wilfredo Benitez is extremely overrated . (1.1) D man probably lost twice (at least 1ce) 2 Bruce Curry . (1.2) IDK how credible his wins over Duran n Palomino r/were

2) Ray Leonard stopped drained (2.1) Hearns , (2.2) Benitez (2.3) Duran .
Neither of these guys fought @ 147 after their fights with him .
Even in d Hearns rematch , Leonard had him drained 2 a catchweight (164 or 165 i think) and still deserved 2 lose d verdict .
(2.3) I read that he admitted 2 have rematched Duran @ a time when he knew Duran would not have been in shape 2 fight .
(2.4) most importantly , not only his "victory" over an older eroded Hagler was not a win , it is even bullshit as a fight - he had thickly padded gloves , big ring and 12 rounds instead of 15 . Hagler would have stopped him under normal (for that time) circumstances even past his prime as he actually was going in against Leonard .
(2.5) Leonard was beaten by Hearns in their rematch but got a draw .

3) Hagler ruled over a weak middleweight division . Any1 who disagrees , answer this question : who was Hagler's best opponent @ MW ?

4) Duran (4.1) is overrated as a lightweight - he fouled vs Ken Buchanan and I think not just him and (4.2) against Davey Moore @ 154 , Moore came in with a severe injury in his jaw and Duran also thumbed him 2 win a really bullshit TKO and by this i don't mean that it was premature or anything , just cheating against n already injured (since b4 d fight even began) opponent .
His win over Barkley looks impressive both on paper and on film , but Barkley was probably drained and weakened against him .

5) Hearns was a clean fighter as far as I know but his losses exclude him from my top 80 p4p (even top 100) at least . He even showed his vulnerability in some of his (listed) victories (Kinchen , Sims , Roldan)

Sims ? Robbie sims ? I must have missed that one.

yes i did miss Sims hurting Hearns , as they never fought so whats your point ?

[frankenfrank]

yes i did miss Sims hurting Hearns , as they never fought so whats your point ?

i guess it was 1 of those times when transitivity took over 2 much .

[Dark Lord Al]

yes i did miss sims hurting hearns , as they never fought so whats your point ?

i guess it was 1 of those times when transitivity took over 2 much .

:

Yes that is spot on , you were wrong.

[THE THIRD MAN]

It is time 2 remind n discuss a few facts about d fab 4 .

1) Wilfredo Benitez is extremely overrated . (1.1) D man probably lost twice (at least 1ce) 2 Bruce Curry . (1.2) IDK how credible his wins over Duran n Palomino r/were

2) Ray Leonard stopped drained (2.1) Hearns , (2.2) Benitez (2.3) Duran .
Neither of these guys fought @ 147 after their fights with him .
Even in d Hearns rematch , Leonard had him drained 2 a catchweight (164 or 165 i think) and still deserved 2 lose d verdict .
(2.3) I read that he admitted 2 have rematched Duran @ a time when he knew Duran would not have been in shape 2 fight .
(2.4) most importantly , not only his "victory" over an older eroded Hagler was not a win , it is even bullshit as a fight - he had thickly padded gloves , big ring and 12 rounds instead of 15 . Hagler would have stopped him under normal (for that time) circumstances even past his prime as he actually was going in against Leonard .
(2.5) Leonard was beaten by Hearns in their rematch but got a draw .

3) Hagler ruled over a weak middleweight division . Any1 who disagrees , answer this question : who was Hagler's best opponent @ MW ?

4) Duran (4.1) is overrated as a lightweight - he fouled vs Ken Buchanan and I think not just him and (4.2) against Davey Moore @ 154 , Moore came in with a severe injury in his jaw and Duran also thumbed him 2 win a really bullshit TKO and by this i don't mean that it was premature or anything , just cheating against n already injured (since b4 d fight even began) opponent .
His win over Barkley looks impressive both on paper and on film , but Barkley was probably drained and weakened against him .

5) Hearns was a clean fighter as far as I know but his losses exclude him from my top 80 p4p (even top 100) at least . He even showed his vulnerability in some of his (listed) victories (Kinchen , Sims , Roldan)

How early the fruit is falling this season? You know, when i want my dick pulled i much prefer a good looking chick doing it!

[TitoFan]

Yo frankie....... it seems no one here feels you know jack shit about boxing.
Any thoughts?

[frankenfrank]

Sure Duran hit Buchanan low, but it's not a foul unless the ref calls it.

Want 2 share your deep appreciation 4 Luis Resto as well ? who caught him really ?

He also whipped the shit out of a Prime Ray Leonard, and I mean beat him like he stole something!

this is not how i remember d last couple of rds of their 1st fight . But that win is still a good 1 4 him .